What can Democrats do to get government working again?

[Joe941]

Obviously tRump is having a 3 yr old tantrum and it's going to be up to us to be the adults. How can we get the government up and running. Looking for ideas here...

[qazplm135]

1. what can I do to get Selma Hayek to date me?

I mean she's rich, married, and beautiful and I'm...not.

Similar question IMO...unless she decides to go seriously slumming, not much I can do...and unless enough Republicans decide to become Americans again, not much Democrats can do.

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

2. Wait for the gop to come to their senses. Sounds like mitch may be doing some

deep down soul searching and praying w elaine. Who knows, maybe he'll make a big deision himself. It could happen. The charges disclosed yesterday that they are investigating, are the essence of serious.

[customerserviceguy]

7. That's a long wait

for something that would probably never happen.

There's only one answer to the question, and that's to strike the best deal we can. Otherwise, the Rethuglicans will take the country down with them so far, that our next Democratic president will be severely crippled in bringing us back.

We now have a great method to oppose apathy of both our base, and the mushy middle who show up for an election only when they feel like it. "Remember when enough people felt the way you do about not voting, and we got TRUMP??!!"

Biding time until then is pretty much our best hope to get this ship righted again.

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

8. Agreed. Wishful thinking.

If he gets the wall, it will be touted as "doing business w him even though we knew he was russian" and in the future be used as justification to minimize what theyve done. No wall. We have to find a way to support a million plus soldiers on the front line right now, in the first Anglo-russian War.

[customerserviceguy]

10. Or

it can be explained as having to do something to break the logjam, and get back to the business of running the country. It is also easier to explain if we get something in return, like backing off on deporting DACA beneficiaries.

The Cold War concept of mutually assured destruction only works when nobody launches a nuclear weapon. Otherwise, there is destruction. A compromise that re-opens the government, and shows how bad it can be to make poor choices at the ballot box (or no choice, for those eligible voters who stay home, or protest-vote for third parties) is the best we can salvage out of the situation right now.

We really can't afford to have a presidential emergency declared that is upheld by a stacked SCOTUS, that will be precedent for future misbehavior by subsequent GOP chief executives.

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

12. Yes.

Hard to know. Maybe Pres Obama has a solution. Or Sec/Pres Clinton? Citizenry shouldn't have to be doing the negotiations. I think Spkr Pelosi has it allll dialed in.

[customerserviceguy]

16. Maybe

we should let her know that no matter what she has to do to get the government open again, we're behind her, and trust that she got the best deal she could.

If a deal is made to give Trump half of his five billion, and we get DACA protection for three years (when we can get the White House back) that will be good enough for me, and a good way to convince the deplorables that Trurmp sold them out to "foreigners".

It seems that the more we attack Trump, the tighter they cling to him. It's not just an insane President we're dealing with, it's an insane base. The further we can wedge them apart, the faster we get the country back.

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

18. Maybe. I think we all kid ourselves if we think we have an answer.

Its truly over our pay grade and our inside knowledge is lacking. Mrs Feinstein and Spkr Pelosi should know what needs to be done. Bigger brains than ours are working on this. Pres h Clinton would surly know some ideas I bet.

[customerserviceguy]

20. So would

Bill Clinton. The last major shutdown we had was resolved in part by him.

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

21. Right on.

[berni_mccoy]

3. Three Things:

1. They have to convince enough Republicans in the House to get a 2/3rd majority vote to re-open the gov't.
2. Convince Mitch McConnell to allow a vote in the Senate.
3. Get 2/3 vote in the Senate to re-open the government.

Short of removing Trump from Office, that's what has to happen.

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

9. I think #1 is our huckleberry.

By Monday, there may be more defectors.
Hows about the innocent ones (if there are any..).switch to D's and beg for the forgiveness of the USA.?

[customerserviceguy]

11. Would you

vote for a former GOP'er from the current crop in the next primary election?

I didn't think so.

They'd be committing political suicide if they did that. They know that in the end, they can always blame other Senators for supporting Trump after it all crashes and burns.

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

13. Absolutely not.

Whats better? Political suicide or continuing to conspire w the enmy eventually ending in shame and or jail all in itself? i dunno. We're just talkin.

[customerserviceguy]

19. The GOP'ers

don't fear prison, and they're absolutely shameless. When Corker and Flake left, they were replaced (not directly in the case of Flake) by even more dangerous Republicons.

We're not going to shame or intimidate them into doing anything, any more than Pelosi and Schumer would respond to those pressures if threatened.

It is said that politics is the art of the possible. Admittedly, that's becoming harder and harder to achieve, but it is the only way out. I strongly doubt that within the rest of my lifetime (I'm 63) that we will see the American people unify behind a President of either party. We've just become too splintered.

[Salviati]

4. Start pounding the senate republicans for the shutdown

Focus on those up for reelection in 2020. We either need mcturtle to stop rolling over for trump, or for 2-3 republicans to defect and claim that the current republican party is no longer representing them or their constituents.

[beachbum bob]

5. Keep pressure on McConnel, it's all in his hands.

Nothing democrats can actually do besides that except remain steadfast

[NCjack]

6. We could agree to a phased pay-as-you-go project to build a quality product.

1. Fund the National Academy of Sciences to identify the technologies and their benefits to increase border security.
2, If a wall would give a substantial benefit, fund U.S. Army Corp. of Engineers to do an engineering feasibility study and environmental impact study. Obtain public comments. That will take several years.

But, Trump doesn't do his projects that way. He already knows how to build walls, seize property, buy cheap materials, employ cheap labor, whip the contractors to reduce bills, etc.

[Demsrule86]

14. No takes way too long. This shutdown will end and before February too...as it is political suicide

for Trump and Republicans.

[NCjack]

22. Taking "way too long is the idea" I propose. Get the gov opened

and use the normal process to assess the issue before starting. That would take a couple of years. More to get a contractor moving. Maybe a new congress or new president would stop it.

[Demsrule86]

23. Ah...makes sense. I thought you wanted this before the government reopened.

[TCJ70]

15. Continue passing bills to open the government along with...

...funding to boost our current border security situation. Border patrol agents, technology improvements, etc. Don’t put a wall in it anywhere. Just pass as many “open the government” bills as they can.

At this point it’s already entirely on the Republicans...so the best Dems can do is appear as the reasonable group. Because, ya know, they are.

[bluestarone]

17. Best thing i think is to try to

Get senate rethugs to battle each other. The solution is in the senate and ONLY McConnell is stopping it. We have to pressure the rest of the rethugs AGAINST the turtle!!!!! THAT"S our answer!!!