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rusty fender

(3,428 posts)
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 06:52 PM Jan 2019

Of those who have Already declared, or are about to declare, for the Dem nom. for president,

here are the ones who have a chance to win the Democratic nomination:

Elizabeth Warren
Bernie Sanders
Kamala Harris

Those with zero chance to win the nomination:

Kirsten Gillibrand
Julian Castro
Tulsi Gabbard

The top three have already declared. There is no one else left who declares to run who can win the nomination. So those who are contemplating their candidacies, forget it! Save yourself money and humiliation and get behind the top three

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Of those who have Already declared, or are about to declare, for the Dem nom. for president, (Original Post) rusty fender Jan 2019 OP
Biden and Beto are flirting, but I doubt they'll run. sfwriter Jan 2019 #1
Booker and Swalwell have little to no name recognition rusty fender Jan 2019 #33
Swalwell has been making the talk show circuit. sfwriter Jan 2019 #36
Sanders? Sanders? SANDERS IS NOT EVEN A DEMOCRAT. trueblue2007 Jan 2019 #39
I find Julian Castro to be a lot more competitive than the other two in that category--esp for VP hlthe2b Jan 2019 #2
That be 2 of us. safeinOhio Jan 2019 #6
I like him, too. n/t pnwmom Jan 2019 #13
You are entitled to your opinion Sherman A1 Jan 2019 #3
'A chance' according to whom? elleng Jan 2019 #4
Support within the Democratic Party, that's who rusty fender Jan 2019 #23
which is clearly not remotely apparent now. elleng Jan 2019 #24
I disagree about Gillibrand. WeekiWater Jan 2019 #5
I so look forward to voting against her! nt USALiberal Jan 2019 #29
With the names being thrown around. WeekiWater Jan 2019 #34
I'll happily vote for whoever are nominee is rusty fender Jan 2019 #40
Beto, Booker, Biden, Brown all have a chance JI7 Jan 2019 #7
Interesting that you only think men have a chance. n/t pnwmom Jan 2019 #11
I didn't say they were the only ones. I think harris and Warren have a chance also JI7 Jan 2019 #14
Thanks for clarifying! pnwmom Jan 2019 #16
. Squinch Jan 2019 #8
Um...I'll make up my own mind, thanks NastyRiffraff Jan 2019 #9
No problem! rusty fender Jan 2019 #21
It's too early to start eliminating candidates Sucha NastyWoman Jan 2019 #10
Yes, and we should not be eliminating ANY, at this point. elleng Jan 2019 #25
Not Bernie. I supported Bernie in the primaries last time. But he is, in my opinion, too old now, tblue37 Jan 2019 #12
Plus Warren in the race makes Sanders redundant. BTW, has Sanders officially announced? n/t FSogol Jan 2019 #19
BTW, I think Castro is actually running for VP consideration, and also to position himself for a tblue37 Jan 2019 #15
Uh. . .wake me up in 2020. . . DinahMoeHum Jan 2019 #17
ok, this is what I have to say... handmade34 Jan 2019 #18
Gee, thanks for this wisdom mcar Jan 2019 #20
You're welcome! rusty fender Jan 2019 #22
Too early to pick winners and losers left-of-center2012 Jan 2019 #26
Yes elleng Jan 2019 #28
I still remember being told ... left-of-center2012 Jan 2019 #31
HA! Missed that one! elleng Jan 2019 #37
I would say that Gillibrand and Castro have a better chance than Sanders for 2020. n/t PoliticAverse Jan 2019 #27
Nonsense; the convention is a year and a half away. No telling what happens between now and then. LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #30
Waaaay too early for me Jarqui Jan 2019 #32
Bernie belongs in the bottom group aeromanKC Jan 2019 #35
meh Lithos Jan 2019 #38
I meant to reply to you but rusty fender Jan 2019 #42
I didn't put Biden in the top three because rusty fender Jan 2019 #41
Sanders is not a Democrat. Stinky The Clown Jan 2019 #43
It's way too early to cancel people out or . . . peggysue2 Jan 2019 #44
I agree rusty fender Jan 2019 #45
 

sfwriter

(3,032 posts)
1. Biden and Beto are flirting, but I doubt they'll run.
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 06:55 PM
Jan 2019

What about Cory Booker? Did he bow out of consideration?

Swalwell?

 

rusty fender

(3,428 posts)
33. Booker and Swalwell have little to no name recognition
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 09:26 PM
Jan 2019

Booker, a little. Swalwell none. They’d both be running on their egos, and not on the reality of their true chances to get the nomination.

trueblue2007

(19,251 posts)
39. Sanders? Sanders? SANDERS IS NOT EVEN A DEMOCRAT.
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 09:37 PM
Jan 2019

HOW can he run on the Democratic ticket ..... AGAIN ???
He is not a Democrat, he is an Independent.

In order to seek the party’s nomination, a candidate must publicly announce that they are a registered Democrat, will accept the Democratic nomination, and will “run and serve” as a member of the Democratic Party.

This rule seems to be in direct response to Bernie Sanders, the independent Senator from Vermont who fiercely battled Hillary Clinton in a surprisingly close primary race in 2016. Running on a platform of universal health care and free college for all Americans, Sanders gained popularity, especially among young voters.

https://www.newsweek.com/bernie-sanders-democratic-party-2020-election-new-rule-967928

hlthe2b

(113,954 posts)
2. I find Julian Castro to be a lot more competitive than the other two in that category--esp for VP
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 06:55 PM
Jan 2019

And, I'm not so sure Sherrod Brown and Biden should be discounted so readily.

That said, I'm most impressed (at this moment) with Kamala Harris.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
3. You are entitled to your opinion
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 06:56 PM
Jan 2019

But there will be several if not many others and I believe some of them have a reasonable chance.

 

WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
5. I disagree about Gillibrand.
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 06:57 PM
Jan 2019

I also think Sanders has been rendered irrelevant in a primary that includes Warren and Harris. Many people who voted for Sanders last time will move to a different choice. Not because they don’t still like Sanders. More that they actually have choices.

 

WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
34. With the names being thrown around.
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 09:28 PM
Jan 2019

I’m excited about who I might have the opportunity to vote for. That includes one of our most solid progressives, Gillibrand. I get that your motivation is different. Strange, but different. Hope we put up someone you can happily vote for.

 

rusty fender

(3,428 posts)
40. I'll happily vote for whoever are nominee is
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 11:37 PM
Jan 2019

I like Gillibrand and Castro. I listed the candidates based on who I think has a chance at the nomination.

JI7

(93,615 posts)
14. I didn't say they were the only ones. I think harris and Warren have a chance also
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 07:19 PM
Jan 2019

I listed them because the op did not mention them at all and claimed only the ones they listed have a chance.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
9. Um...I'll make up my own mind, thanks
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 07:09 PM
Jan 2019

Good of you to tell the rest of us who have a chance to win, and who doesn't, but I'll just take a chance and let the candidates make their cases, and decide on my own.

Thanks anyway!

Sucha NastyWoman

(3,019 posts)
10. It's too early to start eliminating candidates
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 07:12 PM
Jan 2019

We would hate it if the media tried to do this, and with so little time for consideration, I think we need to hear more from them first

tblue37

(68,436 posts)
12. Not Bernie. I supported Bernie in the primaries last time. But he is, in my opinion, too old now,
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 07:16 PM
Jan 2019

and too many Democrats, especially among our most loyal Democratic voters, still resent him.

I like Harris and Booker thus far (though Booker hasn't declared yet). I also like Warren, and she comes across as much younger and more energetic than her actual age. I like how good and how blunt she is at explaining things.

However, she does come across as a teacher. I am a teacher myself (college English), so that doesn't bother me at all, but I believe it will bother a lot of voters.

Right now Harris and Warren are my favorites.

FSogol

(47,623 posts)
19. Plus Warren in the race makes Sanders redundant. BTW, has Sanders officially announced? n/t
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 08:05 PM
Jan 2019

tblue37

(68,436 posts)
15. BTW, I think Castro is actually running for VP consideration, and also to position himself for a
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 07:19 PM
Jan 2019

more plausible run out n the future.

(If not to be considered for VP, then at least for a cabinet post.)

DinahMoeHum

(23,604 posts)
17. Uh. . .wake me up in 2020. . .
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 07:43 PM
Jan 2019

. . .because I'm concentrating on local races in my area in 2019.

Right now, the 2020 POTUS race is not a priority with me.

handmade34

(24,017 posts)
18. ok, this is what I have to say...
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 07:57 PM
Jan 2019

as a wise (or is it wizened? ) old woman, who has seen many campaigns, debates and elections...

gawd No to Bernie, Gabbard, Gillibrand, Inslee, Bloomberg,...

Probably No to Booker, de blasio, O'Rourke, Klobacher, Swalwell, Holder, Brown, ... (not that I don't think many of these people are great!)

serious possibilities and interesting debates... Biden, Warren, Harris, Castro, and maybe an unknown right now?

 

rusty fender

(3,428 posts)
22. You're welcome!
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 08:53 PM
Jan 2019

I really think that Warren will win the nomination. Harris comes in second followed by Sanders.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
27. I would say that Gillibrand and Castro have a better chance than Sanders for 2020. n/t
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 09:02 PM
Jan 2019
There is no one else left who declares to run who can win the nomination.

You're kidding, right?

LongtimeAZDem

(4,516 posts)
30. Nonsense; the convention is a year and a half away. No telling what happens between now and then.
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 09:16 PM
Jan 2019

Jarqui

(10,908 posts)
32. Waaaay too early for me
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 09:24 PM
Jan 2019

Lots of candidates to familiarize myself with before I start stroking too many names off the list.

Lithos

(26,638 posts)
38. meh
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 09:35 PM
Jan 2019

People run for a variety of reasons. While many know their chances of winning are a long-shot, they also know that if you do not try, you won't win.

I believe the favorites to win are not the same as yours (in no order)

- Biden
- Warren
- Kamala

Outside shots:

- Gillibrand
- Beto
- Corker

I believe Castro is running to get his name out there for either VP or for the next campaign. To be honest, the same would be true for Beto. There are others who I've not named would could be very good VP candidates, but I'm also very bad at guessing VP candidates.

I do not think Tulsi or Sanders have any chance. Tulsi I think is in to spoil things. Sanders I think is now tainted by the 2016 campaign hijinks. I also think he has failed as an opposition leader. The three I have as the favorites have done a much better job.

I have not made up my mind - I am more interested in seeing who has the best message. That is one of the reasons why I welcome the addition of candidates with good ideas. I do know that I will vote Democratic no matter what, but I want to make sure we build the most inclusive tent possible as we need to also fight the whole ticket both local, State and National and this helps with turnout.

 

rusty fender

(3,428 posts)
42. I meant to reply to you but
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 11:49 PM
Jan 2019

mistakenly replied to myself

The gist is that I agree with most of what you wrote.

 

rusty fender

(3,428 posts)
41. I didn't put Biden in the top three because
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 11:41 PM
Jan 2019

I don’t think he will run. Sanders is in the top three because he still has a lot of support in the Democratic Party. I don’t understand that support, but it is there nonetheless.

This is a reply to Lithos

peggysue2

(12,532 posts)
44. It's way too early to cancel people out or . . .
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 02:24 AM
Jan 2019

pretend we know who is going to leave the greatest impression during the actual primary campaign, the debates, the controversies (there are always controversies), dealing with the press and comments made of events as they happen on the ground. Just because someone looks strong now doesn't necessarily translate into someone with the endurance and/or savvy to complete the marathon that every campaign turns out to be.

We've got a lot of talent vying for the race to the White House. Why don't we let them get out of the gate, show us what they have (or don't have) before trimming the list down to three.

And btw, Bernie Sanders is not a Democrat.

 

rusty fender

(3,428 posts)
45. I agree
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 02:41 AM
Jan 2019

Just speculating

The thing about Bernie is that he still has a good deal of support in the Democratic Party. He will also run as a Democrat if he enters the race.

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