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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIf trump were to resign today, would you be satisfied or would you want to see him
Prosecuted in some way?
NRaleighLiberal
(60,014 posts)shraby
(21,946 posts)He's so crooked I really don't see how he gets dressed in the morning.
enid602
(8,614 posts). . . he swallows a nail, and shits a corkscrew.
Mr.Bill
(24,282 posts)He's so crooked he has servants to help him screw his pants on in the morning.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)Death penalty.
dem4decades
(11,282 posts)Forever
Doreen
(11,686 posts)It costs a lot of money to house prisoners. Do not get me wrong I do not believe in the death penalty either but the thought of him still getting things that a lot of people can not have just burns me.
ancianita
(36,023 posts)Cases without the death penalty cost $740,000, while cases where the death penalty is sought cost $1.26 million.
Giving him the worst is worth every penny.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)To The Death Penalty for certain High Crimes. Treason is one of those crimes.
Eyeball_Kid
(7,430 posts)He needs to suffer, every day, every hour, and he needs to live a long time. I'd go with something like never ending heartburn, or constant muscle cramping. He needs to suffer as much as all of the suffering he's caused himself. All of his stealing, his bullying, his vengeful behavior, his constant lying and conning... Jeez. I can keep going on...
More_Cowbell
(2,191 posts)Then I'll be as satisfied as I expect to get. He has deaths on his hands, with more to come, I bet.
at140
(6,110 posts)His Mar-a-Lago place....
RVN VET71
(2,690 posts)Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)Never again. He's cost 340 million people...2.5 years of our lives. 'Son of a bitch must pay'. (Kurt Russel Big Trouble in Little China).
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)Tying it to a Kurt Russell character's quote doesn't excuse it.
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)If 'like a dog' fits...then I'll say it. He doesn't own the English language now too. (AEB his massacre of same everyday.) I hear your intent though. Be well!!
MontanaMama
(23,307 posts)Id want to see him prosecuted and in prison. Same with his 3 spawn. I dont think well see it but Ill never stop wanting it. Fucking traitorous piece of shit.
kag
(4,079 posts)If we can't get a real prosecution, what I want is to turn him and his family into poor people. Confiscate all of their assets, all of their ill-gotten gains, all of their "emoluments". Let him feel the pain of the people he has been belittling and lying to for years.
MontanaMama
(23,307 posts)I'd "settle" for that outcome.
AlexSFCA
(6,137 posts)in fact, at this point, Id rather trump stay and continue destroying gop instead of pence coming to power and presenting himself as a savior ramping up his chances for election.
eppur_se_muova
(36,260 posts)... prosecution would go like gangbusters, and I doubt *ANY* Uglicans would bother to help him in any way. Any co-conspirators would turn States' Evidence.
Control-Z
(15,682 posts)Man, does that describe them. I'm surprised I haven't seen it before now. Did you come up with that?
eppur_se_muova
(36,260 posts)UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)gratuitous
(82,849 posts)And it was the pardon of Nixon, the pardons of GHW Bush, and the failure of the Obama administration and the new Congress not to prosecute the crimes of Bush the Stupider that have brought us McDonald Trump. We need to break this streak of unpunished Republican Executive crimes and hold them accountable at long last.
Poiuyt
(18,122 posts)Politicians must learn that there are serious consequences to their crimes.
Ani Yun Wiya
(797 posts)That lack of punishment is exactly why we are where we are today.
Every damn R since Nixon should have been locked up for many a crime committed.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)WestMichRad
(1,320 posts)Prosecuted and punished. Allowing politicians to go unpunished for crimes just encourages others to try and push the envelope.
hibbing
(10,096 posts)A truly despicable cast of characters from Reagan on down.
Peace
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Dead of night, Christmas Eve 1992, after Bush had lost re-election to Bill Clinton. Just a couple of weeks before Independent Counsel Lawrence Walsh was going to try Reagan administration officials for selling arms to Iran and using the proceeds to fund terrorists in Central America.
In addition to Caspar Weinberger, Bush pardoned Robert C. McFarlane, Elliott Abrams, and three former CIA officials, Clair E. George, Alan D. Fiers Jr. and Duane R. "Dewey" Clarridge. McFarlane, Abrams and Fiers had all already pled guilty to various charges, and the trial of Weinberger and others was going to put the lie to Bush's claim that he was "out of the loop" on the Iran/contra crimes.
These pardons were also the time when the notion of criminalizing policy differences entered our political lexicon, thanks to Bush. That formulation has been used as a shield and a cudgel to defend Republican criminality ever since.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/28/AR2006032800858.html
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)or else next time, we get somebody with the same intentions as Trump, but with a modicum of self control and intelligence.
JI7
(89,247 posts)rustysgurl
(1,040 posts)... preferably more orange than he is (if that's even possible).
Shrike47
(6,913 posts)vlyons
(10,252 posts)that he needs to be indicted and take his chances before justice. This country needs an object lesson about corruption and treason.
rampartc
(5,404 posts)and his "base" will support him no matter what.
his appointees will never invoke amendment 25 and the senate will never convict him on impeachment.
if he calls a state of emergency and begins wearing a napoleon suit he could get franklin graham to annoint him king.
i think we are stuck with this azzwhole until the "elite" are done with him.
BigmanPigman
(51,584 posts)will get mad at me for "kooky ideas".
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I'm afraid that my answer is exactly the same as yours.
dalton99a
(81,455 posts)Control-Z
(15,682 posts)Or immoral/cruel/illegal?
You don't have to answer and I will absolutely understand if you don't. Kooky just seems too mild/kind/generous to me.
BigmanPigman
(51,584 posts)"Kooky or extremist" ....something like that. I am old school when it comes to punishments for the worst of the worst criminals (sadists, psychopaths, serial killers and rapists, etc). You know, tar and feathering, drawn and quartered, Spanish Inquisition type stuff. I want it to be out in the open on live TV filmed in a huge arena so the public can humiliate them immensely. Now alert me to the DU jury.
Control-Z
(15,682 posts)Never!
BigmanPigman
(51,584 posts)Generic Brad
(14,274 posts)I want to see both happen.
grumpyduck
(6,232 posts)Once they were pardoned, there was a better chance of them "going away" than if they were in prison and making people wonder if anyone else should be there too. It's the old "sweep it under the rug" tactic.
We as a nation have become way too gullible.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,174 posts)ProudMNDemocrat
(16,784 posts)But that would not save his ass from State of New York crimes, and for other states he did dirty business in.
rufus dog
(8,419 posts)bluedigger
(17,086 posts)Right where they handed him the blind fold and cigarette.
Grammy23
(5,810 posts)He has put this country through several years of hell. He has done an enormous amount of damage that harms the reputation of the USA around the world. He cannot be allowed to resign and then slink off to Mara-a-Lago to sulk and lick his wounds.
He (and everyone else involved in this entire debacle) must be tried and convicted. Then locked up until they draw their last breath. They have betrayed this country and must be punished.
Wawannabe
(5,651 posts)OliverQ
(3,363 posts)ooky
(8,922 posts)for a long long time.
C_U_L8R
(44,998 posts)But his co-conspirators need to go to prison to.
No fucking pardons.
Doreen
(11,686 posts)dweller
(23,628 posts)then all of the above as the main entree would be satisfactory...
and send him the bill
✌🏼️
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,490 posts)for which investigators find sufficient reason to indict him, and due process must be followed. I will not call for anyone to be punished without fair and legal process and trial, even though I despise tRump as much as anyone here.
That said, I only wish there were laws that prescribed appropriate punishment for any public official that lies to his/her constituents where that lying causes substantial physical, mental or financial harm. We would have to build many new jails.
Polly Hennessey
(6,793 posts)DesertRat
(27,995 posts)Then I want trump along with his Traitor tots, Don, Jr. and Ivanka prosecuted for treason.
fierywoman
(7,683 posts)MrsCoffee
(5,801 posts)Hassin Bin Sober
(26,325 posts)RockRaven
(14,959 posts)And every criminal around him too. Nothing else will satisfy.
Maru Kitteh
(28,339 posts)If he's still alive at his exit, there are many entities out there ready to proceed with various charges and filings against him. Watching him get dragged from one court to the other, becoming the world's most hackneyed loser - that would be sweet icing on the cake.
struggle4progress
(118,280 posts)quickesst
(6,280 posts)"Just where the fuck do you think you're going?"
lunasun
(21,646 posts)NYETNYET
(212 posts)Don't forget the rail he rode out on...
Dem2theMax
(9,650 posts)And I want to see him wearing it for the rest of his life.
Hekate
(90,645 posts)The old man will not get jail time (age, dementia, illness -- they'll think of something), but I want him to witness the ruin of his empire, his favorite kids in prison, his towers and golf clubs seized and sold, and all of them become social pariahs.
Not that I have revenge fantasies or anything.
Pachamama
(16,887 posts)Ani Yun Wiya
(797 posts)to the full extent of the law.
Jailed and awaiting a proper end to his nasty, harmful existence.
DFW
(54,358 posts)Literally. He is ordered by a judge to wear a gag when he goes out in public or appears before a camera with sound.
Then, I would like to see him forced to make whole all those small businesses he stiffed along the way, from the piano deliverer to the people who built his fancy digs and then got stiffed for a third or more of the agreed-to price. By then, he'll have about $159.50 left to his name, and a credit rating to match.
Talitha
(6,582 posts)All of them should be locked up, but not in one of those posh prisons.
Let them go to regular prisons and be placed among common people.
We'd see the Dumpster become pale and bald.
We'd see Ivanka with tattered nails and lice in her hair.
We know that Jared, Eric and Don Jr will be deathly afraid to drop the soap.
Let them own their shame, live long, and die in prison.
Let their wealth be distributed to the needy.
That would make me very happy.
VOX
(22,976 posts)DFW
(54,358 posts)I may ask for asylum in a neutral country.
jmowreader
(50,555 posts)But since forced self-disembowelment is definitely cruel and unusual punishment, I'll settle for ten years in prison and signing over all assets to the government for the Trumps, Mike Pence, his entire Cabinet, and every Congressional Republican that's been enabling this piece of shit - starting but not ending with Mitch McConnell.
seaglass
(8,171 posts)office, I am good with him resigning today.
It's not that I don't think he deserves punishment, I just want him out of office at the soonest possible moment before he can cause any more harm.
Joe941
(2,848 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,080 posts)is locked up for the rest of their miserable lives, and all their assets confiscated, sold off, and the money returned to the Treasury.
Buckeyeblue
(5,499 posts)Just so I can remind people in the coming years when his name comes up...And so we can say the rule of law still means something.
Yavin4
(35,437 posts)Allowing him to simply resign gives license to future MFers to do the same.
Vinca
(50,267 posts)And Pence should be right behind him. Republicans should not be allowed to hold the Executive Branch. The election wasn't honest. Republicans know it. Democrats know it. Everyone knows it. That's the closest thing to justice we have available in our laws. In a just world, Hillary would be sworn in, but there is no provision in the Constitution for that to happen.
Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)WALL.
HIM.
UP.
rurallib
(62,406 posts)same for his kids.
Niagara
(7,595 posts)Country over party, Mitch and the rest of the GOP!
JGug1
(320 posts)Donald Trump MUST be prosecuted. He simply MUST. Nixon wasn't. That led to Reagan being willing to violate the Constitution, as he did with Iran/Contra. Clinton is sort of a special case but when he lied under oath, he SHOULD have been prosecuted. Sorry. Clinton was supposed to be smart. He COULD have avoided that mess.
IF Trump is not prosecuted, the next time will be worse and we are getting closer and closer to the end of this democratic republic.
joanbarnes
(1,722 posts)Power 2 the People
(2,437 posts)murielm99
(30,733 posts)I was mostly okay with that. We had been through enough. Other people were going to jail. Nixon had to go away, and never be a part of politics again.
Funny thing: I was surrounded by repubbies. None of them were okay with it. They were angry, humiliated, disappointed, you name it.
This time, I want more. He is one of the worst crooks I have ever seen. He puts all of us in danger, the entire world!
spanone
(135,826 posts)FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)From Person of Interest:
'...two men are gonna walk through that door. One will put a black bag over your head and the other will zip tie your wrists. You'll be thrown into a hole so dark and deep that [nothing can] see inside. And the last thing you'll hear is my voice saying "this is where you belong."
colorado_ufo
(5,733 posts)to help compensate for what he cost this country plus life in prison.
Others associated with this mess should be tried individually.
flying-skeleton
(696 posts)First, I want to see ALL the Trumps in Orange Jumpsuits behind bars for a long Fuckin' time while all the Trump signs on buildings around the world are torn down one by one and every penny taken from them. Next, I want to every single Republican who was complicit in everything Trump locked up, starting with McConnell and Nunes.
cynatnite
(31,011 posts)Prison would be a plus.
Taking away his wealth would be the ultimate because it's the only thing he really values.
trueblue2007
(17,205 posts)and i mean physically hurt people. look how this week he threatened the life of Speaker Pelosi in outing her travel plans.
he wants something "bad" to happen to her.
Trump is not to be trusted.
stonecutter357
(12,695 posts)2naSalit
(86,559 posts)He's not walking free after this. He has put not only this entire nation is danger, he has put the whole world in danger. He needs to be contained in a cell for the rest of his miserable life. And I want to see him squirm when the czarina has to wear the orange jumpsuit.
Faux pas
(14,668 posts)IN EVERY WAY!
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Shrike47
(6,913 posts)Pisces
(5,599 posts)Pee tape released. Total humiliation!! He deserves it all.
NNadir
(33,513 posts)Since Trump has worked to support torture and murder there, he might be welcomed should he sneak out of the country.
It's open country there for deposed criminal buffoons.
Jarqui
(10,123 posts)Wishful thinking, I know.
I'd like to see him in a prison with "very big walls" marked "made in Russia" and with slats to he could see out into a Latino neighborhood as American Latinos go about their business as free, responsible people in the United States. And with a burly roommate who can use Trump regularly as a bottom to provide fist hand education on LGBT rights.
Claritie Pixie
(2,199 posts)Jail would be nice too. So would public humiliation. I'm thinking stripped naked and on display so people can shout "Shame" at him.
I would love to see him tied to a tree, given a cigarette and a blind fold and then shot for treason but those are my dreams, it will never happen
rzemanfl
(29,556 posts)To encourage the others to behave well. If that had been done to Nixon, the country would have been much better off.
gopiscrap
(23,756 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Atticus
(15,124 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,328 posts)Originally posted "hanged", but thinking about it more, he's already spawned so that wouldn't protect society. Just lock the evil bastard up and throw away the key.
Perrenial Voter
(173 posts)We don't have that in this country, but we should still strive for it. Trump has committed scores of crimes. Ideally, he should be charged and prosecuted as if he were poor and black, which probably means spending the rest of his life in prison. It is corrosive to the social fabric to allow someone to engage in criminal conduct in plain sight and go unpunished.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)Point, Blank, Period!
Initech
(100,063 posts)JenniferJuniper
(4,510 posts)Fair trial. Fry him if he's found guilty.
If pumpkin head took pentecostal pence with him, I would be satisfied. Because then Nancy would be president. i honestly believe that neither trump nor any of his family will see the inside of a jail. Rich people seldom do. If worse comes to worse, I could see him resigning, but that's as far as i think it will go.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,106 posts)but then again, the War Criminal son0bush is still strutting around FREE as though he was a good President.
shanny
(6,709 posts)Prosecuted every which way, stripped of all assets under RICO and in jail 'til he croaks--which wouldn't be very long imo. Bursting a super-inflated self-image bubble like that would have dire consequences I think.
Vindictiveness aside, if any of the previous Reputrid miscreants had been prosecuted instead of skating I doubt if we would big in this big a pickle today. eom
nolabear
(41,959 posts)If we think the threat of prison is a deterrent then we should want to deter any other monster of this ilk from ever trying this again.
Blue Owl
(50,349 posts)No stupid tweet-phone, no FOX tv, nobody to listen to his bragging and hubris...
LakeArenal
(28,817 posts)I would be satisfied. Anything beyond that would be sprinkles on the cupcake.
The effects of a long impeachment and trial would be horrible.
kimbutgar
(21,130 posts)He makes Benedict Arnold look innocent now.
The orange Maggot is a Russian asset who is trying to overthrow the US government. He needs to go down hard.
onecaliberal
(32,826 posts)In It to Win It
(8,236 posts)backscatter712
(26,355 posts)He should spend the rest of his life in a federal supermax.
doc03
(35,325 posts)awesomerwb1
(4,267 posts)Just like Russiapublicans LOVE to say when talking about immigration: "we're a nation of laws".
So I would love to see him and his family including Melania end up disgraced in jail.
LiberalFighter
(50,890 posts)Along with the rest of the family.
onetexan
(13,036 posts)He can either be impeached or resign. Either way, he'll be prosecuted. At the state level as well.
NellieStarbuck
(266 posts)But I'm liking the idea of tarring and feathering, stocks, that kind of thing.
alfredo
(60,071 posts)Not a punishment for most of us, but would be hell for him.
Make his cell mate a member of M-13.
alfredo
(60,071 posts)I hope Mueller finds that trump/pence got elected by fraudulent means, and both will be sent packing. President Pelosi!
Scalded Nun
(1,236 posts)First by the feds, then by the states. Not a waking moments judicial peace for him, and hopefully his family, for their remaining days. Go for forfeiture, go for RICO, go for the throat, go for the wallet. Never let up. If he just walks away there is another Trump-like character waiting in the wings to step up and enrich themselves, knowing they can just walk away with their riches when finally held to account.
The rest need to see just what awaits them now and in the future. No more hand-holding/slapping.
If this is not pursued the future of this country looks no better than it does now.
JohnnyLib2
(11,211 posts)mickswalkabout41
(145 posts)And Mitch and the rest. Jail time. Not months. Yeaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrssssssssss
appleannie1943
(1,303 posts)Chemisse
(30,809 posts)He is a lifelong criminal and needs to be treated as such.
tanyev
(42,552 posts)He needs to be prosecuted for enough of his crimes that he is no longer in the public sphere.
dlk
(11,554 posts)McKim
(2,412 posts)I want these criminal prosecuted. Republicans have been getting away with crimes over the decades because they are not stopped and punished. He has pushed out beyond any past standards of honorable legal behavior. Stop it NOW.....dont take his punishment off the table!
Denis 11
(280 posts)I would be happy if he just left the Whitehouse , I'm not vindictive. I believe he never wanted the job in the first place, and it's the fault of the Republicans that allowed the unqualified fool to use them to get us all on this mess.
Trueblue Texan
(2,426 posts)And all his accomplices!
randr
(12,411 posts)He needs all the time he has left to think it over in a quiet cell.
DoctorJoJo
(1,134 posts)Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)Remember the season and the scene where Heather Taffitt meets her end ?
nini
(16,672 posts)He is the worst traitor this country has ever had. He needs to pay the price.
He can then join Osama bin Laden at the bottom of the sea.
Mira
(22,380 posts)of the children and teens. And I want him to get a silver "blanket".
After that I want him and the silver blanket put in prison.
OxQQme
(2,550 posts)If I were a lyricist I would write a song with that as the hook in the chorus.
Verses describing the fallout of his demeanor and the allowance by the old white men in power that could have intervened.
radical noodle
(8,000 posts)I want him to be homeless. I want him to suffer through the same things that he ignores others having suffered. Jail is too good for him, as he would have shelter and food. I want him to lose it all, along with his entire crime family losing all they have as well.
MojoWrkn
(139 posts)I'd like to never hear his name spoken again, i.e., no monuments or celebratory days or even no mention of his foul offspring! Let the name trump go down in ignominous history!
brush
(53,767 posts)just expeling him from the WH to resume his businesses, although they will likely crater because of the damage done to his brand.
Running for president is his ruination.
cstanleytech
(26,284 posts)MurrayDelph
(5,293 posts)No TV or internet.
Nothing to read except books with no pictures.
Firestorm49
(4,032 posts)Lebam in LA
(1,344 posts)Icing would be if his evil spawn recieved the same fate
LakeSuperiorView
(1,533 posts)Icing would be owning the beer concession attached to the urinal...
djinmo
(16 posts)the punishment for treason, traitor and being an agent of Russia is in my opinion, hang him till he stops twitching!
kairos12
(12,852 posts)LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,582 posts)Ivanka would look good in orange -- it goes well with blonde.
DinahMoeHum
(21,784 posts). . .He's facing a shitload of prosecutions on federal, NY state, and other state levels. Criminal and civil courts.
In the end, I want him, his family and his associates in prison, and ALL of their assets confiscated.
Of course, any treason or sedition charge would be a whole new level.
RandySF
(58,772 posts)A resignation in exchange for no prosecution.
Nitram
(22,791 posts)The Mouth
(3,148 posts)Give me a crooked con man over a Dominionist True Beliver, any day
Vogon_Glory
(9,117 posts)Im a former Cold War voter who reluctantly voted for Republican presidential candidates because I sincerely believed that theyd be tougher on the Kremlin than their Democratic counterparts.
That being said, I emphatically endorse investigating and prosecuting Donald Trump either for allowing the Russian Federation to influence our elections and Individual One for being an agent of an unfriendly foreign power. Such behavior by American politicians not only shouldnt be tolerated, but the parties involved should be prosecuted so such behavior should be deterred in the future.
amywalk
(254 posts)the powerful never have to pay for their illegal activities. I want all these sleezebags to go to prison.
JustAnotherGen
(31,811 posts)He's a crook - he will be prosecuted.
MrScorpio
(73,630 posts)Aussie105
(5,383 posts)as a lot of people want revenge, and see Trump get demolished politically, financially and rot in jail, it's not going to happen.
The history of American Presidents who were found to not come up to expectations, is that they were neutralised, taken out of office, but then left alone.
The best we can hope for with Trump, is that he ends up in some gated retirement village for the Terminally Confused, where he can spend his days talking to like minded Old White Men who reminisce about their past glories, and wonder why things turned out the way they did.
He may even get the occasional visit from some close relatives, at least those who bother to remember who he is.
Mr. Quackers
(443 posts)in a gang-infested shithole state prison in Texas.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,338 posts)San Quentin has a nice wall. So does Leavenworth Prison.
Demsrule86
(68,552 posts)for the rest of his miserable life. I doubt he will be able to do business anymore.
malaise
(268,943 posts)publicly shamed, impoverished and imprisoned.
marble falls
(57,077 posts)murdering cop only 4 or 5 years. What jail time they going to give Trump?
COL Mustard
(5,897 posts)And otherwise humiliated.
duforsure
(11,885 posts)If someone is probing what they can get away with , not what the legal consequences for everyone is. If he committed crimes he should have consequences like everyone else does, and punished equally for it . Being a public servant he also should be held to a high standard, not given special treatment where he escapes justice because of his powers he has.
Gore1FL
(21,128 posts)quakerboy
(13,919 posts)We need him out, but just as much we need to root out those who have protect his criminal activities.
Jail is fine, but some future president would just pardon him and let him move back to one of his properties, assuming Russia doesnt foreclose in the mean time.
My preferred result would be for him to give up his US citizenship and move to Russia where he belongs. I strongly feel this would be far more likely to end in something close to what he personally deserves than anything the US justice system can or would actually accomplish.
0rganism
(23,944 posts)letting his ass off easy sets a horrible example for the next corrupt motherfucker to get the job. Democrats let W's bunch off easy and look what that got us. no, not prosecuting Republican crimes is simply unsustainable. this country can't survive long term by letting them off the hook every time.
KentuckyWoman
(6,679 posts)It isn't constitutional. It isn't a good precedent to set. It is entirely a bad idea.
But a girl can dream can't she?
MLAA
(17,282 posts)IADEMO2004
(5,554 posts)MrModerate
(9,753 posts)Are his more quotidian tax-cheat crimes. Leaving office would probably be sufficient to heal the political wounds, but he needs to die in prison for all his other crimes.
LOCK HIM UP.