BREAKING: Trump to offer temporary protections for undocumented 'dreamers' in exchange for $5.7 bil

[herding cats]

Trump to offer temporary protections for undocumented ‘dreamers’ in exchange for $5.7 billion for border wall, GOP officials say

BREAKING NEWS: The president is expected to detail the proposal to Democrats in a rare Saturday address at 4 p.m. It comes as the record-breaking government shutdown entered its 29th day.

This story will be updated.

President Trump is preparing to make a new offer to Democrats that could end the record-breaking government shutdown in a rare Saturday address from the White House, while stopping short of declaring a national emergency on the southern border.

With the shutdown in its 29th day, Trump was expected to propose items he believes Democrats favor as part of a broader border-security package, according to two people familiar with White House planning. The hope is the proposal would revive negotiations with congressional Democrats, which have been nonexistent for days.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/trump-to-make-new-offer-to-democrats-as-government-shutdown-drags-on/2019/01/19/2cde029e-1bf3-11e9-9ebf-c5fed1b7a081_story.html?utm_term=.480f066242a2

Temporary?! Not even close to good enough, IMO.

[Javaman]

1. Fuck off nt

[Loki Liesmith]

2. Temporary? Lol no.

That’s just a way to make sure he gets the leverage back in the future.

[SWBTATTReg]

5. Really! Idiot is still locked up in the 'idiot' closet...nt

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

64. Still locked in the idiot closet

DUzy

[still_one]

8. Ya noticed that little detail too

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

3. Temporary? I don't think so.

[marylandblue]

4. It's a start. How about keep DACA for as long as the wall stands?

[dawg day]

11. That's a good one- if he wants his wall to be strong, then, he has to let them all stay for life!

But didn't Trump renege on a much more generous (for him) deal last March or so?

What's to say he'll keep this deal now?

He keeps using these kids as playing chips. It's terrible.

[marylandblue]

21. He did renege, but now this is his idea so hard to back out.

Also, the House would write and pass a single bill covering both, so he signs for all or none.

[livetohike]

6. No deal. He's a joke. His word on anything is useless.

Can’t wait to see the response to this.

[Wounded Bear]

7. #WheresMitch...

How about asking Mitch McConnell. He's the one holding shit up.

[mcar]

9. According to their spokespeople,

Pelosi and Schumer have not been approached with this offer.

This is more Dotard theater, so he can try to justify grounding Pelosi's flight.

[herding cats]

19. Yep, theater and nothing else.

All he does is manipulate the news cycles by blowing smoke and telling lies.

[Kurt V.]

75. Yes. Theater nothing more.

[Goodheart]

10. I believe he actually thinks he's winning this game.

He's fucking delusional.

[W_HAMILTON]

12. There are already temporary protections in place.

Fuck off, Donald.

[Eyeball_Kid]

23. Of Course, and the USSC won't take up the issue any further.

So Trumpy is offering NOTHING in exchange for his idiotic Wall funding.

[ooky]

34. Yeah. This time instead of offering nothing he's offering

a bucket of shit.

[David__77]

13. Nope.

...

[Roland99]

14. He had control of Congress BEFORE and AFTER the initial shutdown

This is ALL on Repukes!

[JDC]

15. Liar. Fuck off

[Comatose Sphagetti]

16. Not one penny: Nothing. Zip. Zilch. Nada.

For the stupid fucking wall.

[dalton99a]

17. Hostage taker offers temporary reprieve in exchange for $5.7 billion payment

[smirkymonkey]

18. Uh, no.

Piss off, Donald.

[UTUSN]

20. Nyet.

[Hekate]

22. Temporary?! Uhhh -- no

[spanone]

24. temporary? Go to Mexico to pick up your check, don.

[rso]

25. Shutdown

Not a penny for the wall. Negotiations can start once the USG is reopened. No negotiations with a terrorist holding USG employees hostage.

[Downtown Hound]

26. Temporary? LOL! And this man considers himself a deal maker?

Hey Chump, fuck off! And take your bullshit deal with you!

[superpatriotman]

27. That's about $3100 per DACA life

$5.7 billion divided by 1.8 million possible DACA recipients = $3166.666666666666

[Botany]

28. A deal written by Jared & Mike Pence?

No thanks

[ooky]

29. Of course they would be temporary.

Trump doesn't want to risk greater excoriation from Coulter and Limbaugh who would have a cow if he offered Dreamers permanent status.

This will just be another stunt by Trump and Republicans who are anxious to stop the bleeding - and attempt to reverse the blame for his shutdown on the democrats.

[rurallib]

30. American policy has always been to never negotiate with a hostage taker

If it works once, they will never stop.

[Snotcicles]

31. This. nt

[bullwinkle428]

32. This has "Lucy pulling the football away" written all over it.

[arthritisR_US]

33. He's offering a "temporary" and wanting a

concrete $5.7 that’s a really lame offer IMO.

[tblue37]

35. Operative word: "temporary." nt

[Burma Jones]

36. We ain't paying for your Vanity Wall

Jackass

[Kablooie]

37. Here's offering this because SCOTUS won't hear...

Trumps case to deport the dreamers.

[Mme. Defarge]

57. Bingo!

Glad I kept reading replies before making the same point. Obviously, he assumes everyone else is as stupid as he is.

[erpowers]

38. No

I would not completely be happy with permanent protections for dreamers, so I am not even slightly happy with temporary protections for dreamers. I hope Pelosi, Schumer, and the Democrats reject this offer. I plan to call Pelosi's and Schumer's office Monday to encourage them to oppose this offer. I may even call the Representatives closest to my residence to encourage them to not support this offer.

[klook]

39. I'm sure the "No Amnety" crowd will love this.

Makes no difference anyway — Trump lies about everything. So, even if this wasn’t a bullshit deal, it wouldn’t be worth the toilet paper it’s written on.

[Chipper Chat]

62. I remember that sign.

And the one that read "no pubic option"

[klook]

67. Yes!!

https://upload.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1354342

A few more classics here:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10023901822

[kimbutgar]

40. No, no no , 5 billion can be spend elsewhere on worthier projects

Repairing roads, rebuilding a bridge or hiring a cyber security team to fight off Russia and China. No no no to the stupid vanity wall.

The orange maggot is not going to gain supporters if the Democrats say no no no to the idiotic wall.

[OliverQ]

41. Will Dems go for this? Pelosi's counteroffer was $1 billion for security, but not wall.

[backtoblue]

42. Borders on extortion to me nt

[Sugar Smack]

43. HAHAHAAAHHAHAHA!!

No.

[louis-t]

44. 'Temporary' which he will immediately ignore once

he gets his way. God, he's intolerable.

[Ohiogal]

45. Temporary?!

This is laughable if this is the biggest “concession “ they can come up with.

No way.

[Poiuyt]

46. Under no circumstances should that symbol of racism be built!

[wryter2000]

47. This shows he knows the shutdown is hurting him

Good news, but we're still not giving him his wall.

[lindysalsagal]

48. Dems: Hold ground. Impeach the fool. That is all.

[Qutzupalotl]

49. But of course the wall is permanent.

Short of a miles-long mob of protesters with pickaxes and sledgehammers. No deal.

[DeminPennswoods]

50. LOL! Temporary. Nope

not gonna happen.

[Autumn]

51. I hope that Dem leadership tells him to piss up a rope.

[madaboutharry]

52. DACA recipients already have "temporary" protection.

This is just more film flam from the film flam man.

He really does think everyone is stupid.

[DeminPennswoods]

53. Remember 1.3B, not 5b+, was DHS entire budget request

for border security, which was what Congress granted.

[Tom Rinaldo]

54. OK, for temporary DACA protection he can have wooden stakes and plastic tarps for his barrier...

...AFTER all government agencies are funded for a full budget year.

[Arkansas Granny]

55. Temporary protections vs a permanent wall. What kind of deal is that?

[delisen]

56. Such a "wall" would also have to be temporary-perhaps a silt fence?

[qazplm135]

58. yeah if he were offering permanent for 5 billion

I'd say that's effectively no wall for permanent, take it, open the government and then don't give him another dime for the wall.

But temporary? No deal.

[musicblind]

59. Temporary?

Oh hell no.

Permanent and maybe we can give him $2 billion.

Think about it DACA is way more popular with the American people than the wall. That makes this an uneven offer. He should do DACA for next to nothing given its popularity.

[D_Master81]

60. Biggest slap in the face I've seen yet

He probably thinks this is his big reach across the aisle that the Dems want. Hahahaha!! Temporary while you build a permanent structure.

[workinclasszero]

61. Temporary until the shitbird-in-charge gets his greasy paws on the 5.7 billion

Then MF45 will rescind protections for dreamers, declare victory over Speaker Pelosi and the democrats while taking victory laps on Fox & Friends and start deporting them again, I guarantee it!

Really are we going to fall for this shit? Are we gonna take the worthless word of the biggest LIAR on the planet that he will protect the dreamers?

People that he has a visceral hate for?

[SWBTATTReg]

65. I agree totally w/ you! Don't trust rump 1 single bit. Never did, never will. Liar-in-chief. NT

[roamer65]

63. Fuck off, Dump.

[WePurrsevere]

66. If offering a BS deal for a BS wall is his "big announcement" today, stations...

Shouldn't even waste their time and cover him. Ignore.him!

The fact is that he had 2 years with a Republican majority in BOTH the Senate and House. He and the R'Con party could have pushed for a stupid unnecessary expensive wall then and gotten it right up until the day Democrats took over the House of Reps.

If Trumplicans could shove their friggin tax cuts for the rich through like they did, they could have shoved his stupid wall through too BUT Trump didn't push for it and the Republican controlled Senate and House didn't even bother to try until they realised that Democrats were probably going to take the House and then it becomes some big 'must have'? Ted's


Horsepucky! Republicans and Trump are playing their BS drum up fear and LIE game again. This is their pattern and their base keeps being suckered into it like Lucy does Charlie Brown with the football. You'd think they have seen the pattern... Geesh.

[JDZ710A]

68. We need four senate republicans to switch to Democratic party

Lets find a billionaire to give ten million each to four senate republicans to move to the Democratic party so we can kick Moscow Mitch as Majority leader.

[marble falls]

74. There may be four or even more Republicans willing to take a bribe. Fortunately we neither ...

bribe nor extort. Surely you don't think that's a great idea.

[Takket]

69. "temporary"???????

Fuck off.

and how could drumpf ever get his deplorables to accept that? They believe DACA isn't even legal!!!!!

[Drahthaardogs]

70. PERMANENT asshole! We can't trust you.

You're a liar.

[fleabiscuit]

72. + 1-hundred billion, billion...

[Vinca]

71. If he said "permanent," Dems might bite, but this is just stupid.

[sarcasmo]

73. No wall ever....

[Flaleftist]

76. Trump can fuck himself with a chainsaw. nt

[RandySF]

77. Mob protection

[appleannie1943]

78. counter with permanent and he doesn't get cent until everyone is back to work & the deal is signed

sealed and delivered. And make sure that this is not simply a down payment, it is the total sum.

[lancelyons]

79. Damn. Trump first to offer concession.

I tried to call Nancy and tell her to offer the deal first. Trump was first to do this. Crap

[Midnightwalk]

80. The American government isn't your hostage

This is not a budget negotiation. The GOP keeps pulling this shit. There should not be any strings attached to keeping the government running.

When the government reopens fix the DACA problem permanently.

Any discussion on more barriers should remove the law that allows environmental regulations to be waived . It’s still a worse than useless waste of money since you have to oay for maintenance and repair. People who walked 2000 miles won’t be stopped by a wall.

[In It to Win It]

82. Any deal that includes DACA protection is DOA for his base, even in exchange for the wall.

He’s in a lose-lose scenario. He backed himself into that corner.