Ann Coulter Scoffs at Trump's Proposed DACA Compromise: There's 'No Purpose' For a Wall Then

[DonViejo]

by Caleb Ecarma | Jan 19th, 2019, 2:30 pm

After news broke that President Donald Trump is looking to offer DACA protections to Senate Democrats in exchange for wall funding, right-wing pundit Ann Coulter ripped the deal and said it would make a wall useless.

Link to tweet

After Trump shut down the government in a demand for wall funding, many suggested Coulter played a major role in pressuring the president into the gridlock. A Democratic lawmaker even jokingly asked Coulter to tell Trump’s he can open the government again.

“Dear @AnnCoulter — Please tell the President it’s OK to open up the government,” Rep. Jackie Speier (D-CA) tweeted earlier this week.

Coulter has gone so far as to say that Trump’s tenure in the White House would be a “joke” if he failed to build the wall — his key campaign promise.

“Trump will just have been a joke presidency who scammed the American people, amused the populists for a while, but he’ll have no legacy whatsoever,” the author said.

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[demmiblue]

1. Her latest:

Link to tweet

[Ohiogal]

4. That's some creative MAGAt math, there.

[SunSeeker]

10. As usual, she's lying. He's not offering amnesty, just a temporary reprieve from prosecution.

And we already have a temporary reprieve, thanks to our court victories in the DACA litigation. https://www.apnews.com/75a7ae8777574164bbe92aa9c1861d89

So in essence Trump is offering NOTHING.

Maybe she's too stupid to know that. Or she is doing a preemptive attack to make sure he does not actually offer up permanent protections/path to citizenship for DACA recipients.

[customerserviceguy]

13. The temporary reprieve you mention

could come grinding to a halt when the SCOTUS takes the DACA case. If Congressional authority to extend DACA protection, signed by the president is in place, then the case is moot, and never makes it to Kavanaugh and the reich-wingers on the Court. And the extra three years for TPS is a bonus.

Or, do you think we cannot regain the White House in 2020?

[SunSeeker]

14. SCOTUS will not hear the DACA cases, let alone rule on them, for at least a year.

And I think we will win in 2020.

[customerserviceguy]

18. I know we will win

in 2020. If this offer goes through even without modification, Trump's base will hear from Ann Coulter, etc. from now until Election Day how he sold them out. Demoralize that base, and you destroy Trump's chances of getting re-elected.

Three years of certainty is better than one or two years of uncertainty. And if the SCOTUS does indeed rule that what one President can do by Executive Order, another President can undo by the same method, then the DACA beneficiaries are thoroughly screwed, and Trump's base is energized and jubilant. And, we now have a SCOTUS precedent that may repeatedly come back to bite us in the ass for untold decades to come.

Take most of the deal, modify it at the edges for some face-saving, and let's give some reprieve to DACA beneficiaries, TPS protectees, and hard working Government employees.

[SunSeeker]

20. We already have DACA certainty for at least a year. Why give him $5.7B wall funding for nothing?

Plus it would reward his hostage taking. That guarantees he will do it again.

No. Just no.

[customerserviceguy]

22. We're trading one year

for three years, by which time we should have taken back at least the White House, if not the Senate. And, we save the TPS folks in the process, too.

We spend just slightly less that on food stamps per month. If this shutdown lasts for another quarter, the loss to poorer folks in food security will be way more than what Trump wants for his barrier.

It comes down to, will sticking to our guns be a better option than relief for DACA beneficiaries, TPS protectees, and government workers? Will we own the shutdown and its consequences if this offer is declared totally DOA?

[SunSeeker]

23. We have more than a year, and we will win in 2020, so we don't need 3 years.

Trump shut down the government, not us.

He promised Mexico would pay for the wall, not us.

[customerserviceguy]

25. If this offer is DOA

we'll see if you're right or not.

[SunSeeker]

26. Your concern is duly noted. nt

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

28. It's not as much the cost of the wall as it is the principle behind it.

Building the wall changes us from a country that sees itself as courageous -- "Give me your poor, your helpless, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free..." -- into one that tells the rest of the world we're afraid of it. It reflects one demented sociopath's view of the world thrown out during a rally as an applause line.

As far as the money goes, it represents perhaps one quarter the projected cost of building the entire wall. And that's without overruns, which we know can be substantial on any government job.

BTW, has anyone seen a breakdown of where the $5.6 billion is going? How much ends up in Trump's pocket?

[customerserviceguy]

29. While I know that some see it as principle

the question is, what are we willing to sacrifice for that principle? Two years of shutdown, which Trump would be perfectly happy to provide, will destroy so many American lives. He will take rejection of this offer, or at least a reluctance to negotiate it at the edges as all the permission he needs to continue his immigration policies. The day the SCOTUS says that his Executive Order overrides his predecessor's EO, he will start ordering up plans for deportation. What will we have to give up at that point to stop him?

And, if the deal is DOA, then his supporters will NOT blame him for offering it, they will see him as being clever enough to deflect the blame for the shutdown, whether the polls show that happening or not. His base is feeling little to no pain over the shutdown, they don't spend a lot of time thinking about flying to Cancun to escape a polar vortex. It's big agribusiness that gets the lion's share of government farm aid, and they figure that they can outlast people who won't get food stamps for a couple of months.

And while "Give me your poor, etc." is beautiful poetry, it's not statutory law. Principles change over time, twenty years ago, we had politicians from both parties telling us, "Marriage is a sacred covenant between a man and a woman." I'm glad that even some of the GOP'ers have managed to leave that principle behind.

[Shrike47]

30. Absolutely not. No. Never.

[customerserviceguy]

32. So

Who's your enemy? Trump?

For me, it's Trump's base. They were the people selfish and shallow enough to put him where he is. I favor separating Trump from his base, and accepting some form of a deal would do that more effectively than anything else we could do.

We need to fully demoralize that base, they really don't care about Trump, and after he's gone, they'll just find another wrecking ball to use, seeing how well that worked for them the last time.

No, they need to feel like they've been "sold out", and the reich-wing talking heads will be only too happy to convince them of that.

[bdamomma]

19. so is don the con listening

to Coulter?

I didn't know she was one of aides???

[Roland99]

2. There's no purpose for HER!

[muntrv]

3. There is no purpose for coultergeist.

[rustysgurl]

5. I am actually shocked ...

that she included minimum wage, infrastructure and solar energy as possible compromises. Is the she-wolf going soft??

[Goodheart]

9. Ann is admitting that her biggest problem in life is having Latin people around her

She'll agree to ANYTHING else.

[Lotusflower70]

6. I replied to her

I said Agreed, there's no purpose for having a wall.

[kairos12]

7. President Coulter has spoken.

[bdamomma]

17. How

fucking sick. Get him out!!!!!!!!!!

[procon]

8. Does she not know that the Dreamers are already here?

They are on this side of any vanity wall so it's an idiotic trope she's trying to push. Maybe that sort of crap impresses het typical rightwing audiences.

[customerserviceguy]

11. This is what I've been insisting for weeks

The only thing Trump has going for him is his base. With that, he can threaten the entire GOP majority in the Senate. Split him from his base, and he becomes removable from office through a Senate trial after impeachment by the House.

Let Ann Coulter, Rush Limpballs, and Laura Ingraham do the work for us. Take the deal (with minor modifications), thank Speaker Pelosi and Senator Schumer for getting the best deal that they could, then watch the Trumpsters self-destruct at being betrayed.

There really is no other option.

[beachbum bob]

12. Could not have a better response from Coulter. Trump lost his muse.

[AlexSFCA]

15. coulter gave good ideas to trump

how about all of those things. DACA are protected by the courts for now and will be permanently once dems win in 2020 with an actual path to citizenship.

[customerserviceguy]

24. Not necessarily

The path to citizenship would have to go through the Senate, and I'm not 100% confident that we will have a 60 vote majority there in January, 2021. If there is stalemate in Congress, then the Court decision may indeed end DACA.

Also, it's easier to get someone to do something big if you've gotten them first to do something small in that direction. If a GOP-controlled Senate can pass three years of DACA and TPS relief, then it is not as hard to peel off a few GOP Senators in 2021 for meaningful immigration reform.

[bdamomma]

16. Anyone who has

twitter tell Ann Coulter to STFU. Damn people are hurting and the country is presently very vulnerable. Stop this madness.

[spanone]

21. You mean she wasn't consulted? nor was ru$h????

uh-oh

[dawg day]

27. Let's see-- the DACA kids are AMERICANS-

Who have lived here most of their lives, who speak English fluently, who are in school, college, the military, or employment, and who are law-abiding.

Gosh, we sure don't want THAT SORT in the country.

Ann Coulter is worried that more engaged new citizens and residents who really believe in American ideals will destroy her "brand," which depends on hatred and stupidity.

[lindysalsagal]

31. I don't remember seeing Coulter on a ballot or Govmnt job

So why is her opinion running/ruining my country?

[customerserviceguy]

33. Because she is who Trump's base really listens to

They know Trump is a useful idiot. That's why they don't care about the veracity of anything he says. He's just the wrecking ball being used against progressive people in this country.

Why do you think so many GOPer's are afraid of opposing Trump? They know that Coulter and the rest of the reich-wing talking heads will destroy them. If we separate that base from Trump, then they lose hope, and don't come out in the kind of numbers needed for Trump's re-election. It's not just about getting our base excited to vote in 2020, it's about deflating the other side, too.

This is why Shrub, Sr. lost in 1992. Accepting a tax increase, even for a good reason, was too much for his voters to stomach. Let's make that happen with Trump's base.

[Scurrilous]

34. Boink.