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Sat Jan 19, 2019, 11:34 PM

Star Member GulfCoast66 (11,949 posts)

Could the High School Kids from KY change History?

Often times society and history is changed by the most unlikely, random actions. Kind of like the "Sir, Have you no shame" comment during the Red Scare period when McCarthy was finally called to task.

This whole episode of the hateful kids seems to be catching fire. I say this because I just got off the phone with my 80 something year old mother who voted for Trump. She was horrified by the whole episode. And she was so confused, because how could 'good christian boys do such a thing". I do not argue with nor disrespect my mother as she is over 80 and was and remains a great mother. It is just not done in my household. So all I said when she made here comment was "Mother, the answer is the hat they were wearing".

Her response was simple. She said "I'm afraid you might be right". Unless you have a Southern mother over 80 you do not understand who much is implied in that simple statement.

We have now seen our "kid's brains on Trump". And it was, and is ugly.

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Reply Could the High School Kids from KY change History? (Original post)
 GulfCoast66 Jan 2019 OP
LineReply Probably not. This country is built on institutional racism in general, and the Catholic Church
 WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2019 #1
LineLineReply I agree with you. This will do nothing to solve such longstanding issues.
 GulfCoast66 Jan 2019 #6
LineLineLineNew Reply Well said!
 BadGimp Jan 2019 #32
LineReply "Your brain on Trump" - somebody should redub this
 dalton99a Jan 2019 #2
LineReply Serious Question. What happened in Kentucky
 barbiegeek Jan 2019 #3
LineLineReply People started roughly 100 threads on the subject a few hours ago
 Cirque du So-What Jan 2019 #5
LineLineReply Here it is in full headlines in Europe.....
 KY_EnviroGuy Jan 2019 #16
LineReply Yes. It is easy to blame the older white middleclass. But these kids that can afford to be sent to
 dameatball Jan 2019 #4
LineLineReply "still debating the Civil War."
 jberryhill Jan 2019 #9
LineLineLineReply Yeah, but they are still pissed. But it's not like the Russians stole the war.
 dameatball Jan 2019 #10
LineReply trump will invite those kids to the White House. Maybe some of them will wise up one day.
 Hoyt Jan 2019 #7
LineLineReply Yep Trump hates Native Americans
 GusBob Jan 2019 #8
LineLineLineReply Not so sure the IHS is shut down.
 PufPuf23 Jan 2019 #18
LineLineLineLineReply I am furloughed from my position with the IHS
 GusBob Jan 2019 #22
LineLineLineLineLineNew Reply Are you a GS Fed employee or a Tribe employee that works in a IHS Clinic?
 PufPuf23 Jan 2019 #24
LineLineLineLineLineLineNew Reply I am contracted, sub contracted actually
 GusBob Jan 2019 #25
LineLineLineLineLineLineLineNew Reply Good for you GusBob.
 PufPuf23 Jan 2019 #30
LineReply K&R
 UTUSN Jan 2019 #11
LineReply Made the local news here in NY...what an awful look that was. I hope this can be a teachable
 UniteFightBack Jan 2019 #12
LineReply No, Trump is raising a whole new generation of Nazis
 hibbing Jan 2019 #13
LineReply I thought the same thing.
 Pepsidog Jan 2019 #14
LineReply no
 JI7 Jan 2019 #15
LineReply Sent the video of the confrontation to my MAGAt dad.
SunSeeker Jan 2019 #17
LineReply The optics for Trump are horrible and it has completely swamped social media
 Quixote1818 Jan 2019 #19
LineReply Have they been playing the video on FOX at all?
 Maru Kitteh Jan 2019 #20
LineReply In this culture? Not a chance
 BannonsLiver Jan 2019 #21
LineNew Reply The "republican family-values" role model* has perverted generations of kids
 Achilleaze Jan 2019 #23
LineNew Reply Message auto-removed
 Name removed Jan 2019 #26
LineNew Reply I'm hopeful it will
 Kurt V. Jan 2019 #27
LineNew Reply These kinds of photos didn't solve racism, but they did help the Civil Rights movement by
 tblue37 Jan 2019 #28
LineNew Reply What will change it is when the church's and their arms, schools etc....
 Historic NY Jan 2019 #29
LineNew Reply How could good christian boys do such a thing?
 paleotn Jan 2019 #31

Response to GulfCoast66 (Original post)

Sat Jan 19, 2019, 11:37 PM

Star Member WhiskeyGrinder (20,088 posts)

1. Probably not. This country is built on institutional racism in general, and the Catholic Church

isn't great about being accountable for its crimes specifically, so IMO people will chalk this up to "Trumpism," and figure it's all over when he's out of office.

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Sun Jan 20, 2019, 12:10 AM

Star Member GulfCoast66 (11,949 posts)

6. I agree with you. This will do nothing to solve such longstanding issues.

But for the first time my mother saw actions she found horrifying and associated it with Trump.

While I long to resolve so many issues, getting rid of trump is the first step.

And my mother and my family are not catholic. I doubt she knows all that much about the whole catholic child abuse issue. She is over 80 and while active in volunteering for Habitat for Humanity and feeds the homeless 2 days a week is caught in the FOX bubble not because she watches it, but because she listens to all her friends. And her preacher.

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Sun Jan 20, 2019, 08:11 PM

Star Member BadGimp (3,926 posts)

32. Well said!

Great post btw, thank you.

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Sat Jan 19, 2019, 11:38 PM

Star Member dalton99a (75,535 posts)

2. "Your brain on Trump" - somebody should redub this

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Sat Jan 19, 2019, 11:43 PM

barbiegeek (1,140 posts)

3. Serious Question. What happened in Kentucky

I must have missed this news. I am very focused on the Traitor in Chef

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Sat Jan 19, 2019, 11:54 PM

Star Member Cirque du So-What (22,957 posts)

5. People started roughly 100 threads on the subject a few hours ago

It''s just assumed to be common knowledge from now on.

Here's a link to a news article for reference:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-native-american-mocked-by-kentucky-high-school-students-in-dc-is-military-veteran-nathan-phillips

It's frustrating trying to figure out WTF some people are talking about without some frame of reference.

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Sun Jan 20, 2019, 01:59 AM

Star Member KY_EnviroGuy (14,341 posts)

16. Here it is in full headlines in Europe.....

The Guardian UK (International Edition)

Link: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jan/20/outcry-after-kentucky-students-in-maga-hats-mock-native-american-veteran

And, The BBC:

Link: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46935701

This is one night in Kentucky I would prefer to just go hide under my bed...... ........

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Sat Jan 19, 2019, 11:48 PM

Star Member dameatball (7,181 posts)

4. Yes. It is easy to blame the older white middleclass. But these kids that can afford to be sent to

private schools and still spew this hatred are evidence of a deeper problem. We need to get rid of Trump, but anyone that thinks these problems will disappear once he is gone are mistaken. Many people in my Appalachian community are still debating the Civil War.

We have a long way to go.

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Sun Jan 20, 2019, 12:27 AM

jberryhill (62,444 posts)

9. "still debating the Civil War."

 


Are they at least clear about which side won?

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Sun Jan 20, 2019, 12:30 AM

Star Member dameatball (7,181 posts)

10. Yeah, but they are still pissed. But it's not like the Russians stole the war.

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Sun Jan 20, 2019, 12:14 AM

Hoyt (54,770 posts)

7. trump will invite those kids to the White House. Maybe some of them will wise up one day.

 

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Sun Jan 20, 2019, 12:20 AM

GusBob (7,265 posts)

8. Yep Trump hates Native Americans

Goes back to his casino days. Right now the group that is suffering the most are the tribes as the IHS is shutdown.

He wil laud these boys for sure

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Sun Jan 20, 2019, 02:22 AM

Star Member PufPuf23 (8,083 posts)

18. Not so sure the IHS is shut down.

I live in (actually near) a town of <600 and the doctor at the IHS clinic is my prime physician. I had an appointment and labs done on 1/15 and was there again 1/18 to get med records sent to an oral surgeon. Maybe no money is going to fund the IHS from the Feds at present? I am at the clinic nearly every week, sometimes multiple times (am a geezer with multiple med problems and underwent 6 months of chemo and other treatments for lymphoma in 2018 and have ongoing treatment). There is no evidence at the IHS or at the Tribe they are being impacted at all by the Fed shutdown as far as day to day actions. The IHS employees at the clinic are employees of the Tribe and not Fed employees. The IHS and other jobs with the Tribe (housing, natural resources, casino, elder care, etc.) are not impacted because the employees are employed by Tribe not Feds (although much funding does come from Feds). But there are Fed employees in BIA and that administer the IHS and other programs which no doubt are impacted. The Fed source of funds one would assume will go dry without a budget and with a federal shut down.

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Sun Jan 20, 2019, 09:05 AM

GusBob (7,265 posts)

22. I am furloughed from my position with the IHS

There are no funds due to the shutdown.

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Sun Jan 20, 2019, 12:39 PM

Star Member PufPuf23 (8,083 posts)

24. Are you a GS Fed employee or a Tribe employee that works in a IHS Clinic?

My recent experience (this past week) may be different because the staff are Tribe (not GS IHS employees) and how each Tribe handles its clinics may be at their option as long as there are funds (unspent as yet) from IHS or other Tribe sources). In the past several days I spoke to three different men who work intermittently in the Tribe Natural Resource Department that started work this past week. The largest local employer by far is the Tribe and as yet the employment and services have continued.

Note that I differentiated between Fed employees and also noted that Fed funds would be gone at some point because of the Fed shut down.

Just made a mention that as of yet in my particular instance the Tribe is keeping things going. I am in no way supporting the shut down or Trump or Trump and NA. I have zero idea of what is happening higher in the Tribe bureaucracy but so far they have managed well because Tribe employees are working and being paid.

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Sun Jan 20, 2019, 01:54 PM

GusBob (7,265 posts)

25. I am contracted, sub contracted actually

Specialty health care provider.

I think it depends on the agency and their resources whether they are running or not

Other providers I am aware are working without reimbursement. I am going to contact my clinic again to volunteer without pay

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Sun Jan 20, 2019, 02:32 PM

Star Member PufPuf23 (8,083 posts)

30. Good for you GusBob.

The IHS is good thing and an example of what we all could have with socialized medical care.

Probably some Tribes have more financial resources than others to weather this Trump clusterf*** of a government shutdown. The Trumpsters and GOP like to "break" nice things that help people.

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Sun Jan 20, 2019, 12:39 AM

Star Member UTUSN (67,832 posts)

11. K&R

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Sun Jan 20, 2019, 12:41 AM

UniteFightBack (8,231 posts)

12. Made the local news here in NY...what an awful look that was. I hope this can be a teachable

 

moment....for someone.

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Sun Jan 20, 2019, 01:28 AM

Star Member hibbing (9,692 posts)

13. No, Trump is raising a whole new generation of Nazis

Along with their families that support the toxic turd.

Peace

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Sun Jan 20, 2019, 01:28 AM

Pepsidog (6,079 posts)

14. I thought the same thing.

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Sun Jan 20, 2019, 01:32 AM

Star Member JI7 (87,929 posts)

15. no

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Sun Jan 20, 2019, 02:18 AM

Star Member SunSeeker (49,608 posts)

17. Sent the video of the confrontation to my MAGAt dad.

We'll see what his reaction is. Haven't heard anything yet.

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Sun Jan 20, 2019, 02:54 AM

Quixote1818 (27,851 posts)

19. The optics for Trump are horrible and it has completely swamped social media

It's having an impact and anyone with any kind of compassion are appalled at this and are instantly understanding Trump's face is all over this. I can't tell you how many responses I have seen of people saying "I voted for Trump but I find this appalling".

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Sun Jan 20, 2019, 03:09 AM

Star Member Maru Kitteh (26,666 posts)

20. Have they been playing the video on FOX at all?

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Sun Jan 20, 2019, 03:35 AM

BannonsLiver (14,999 posts)

21. In this culture? Not a chance

America will be on to something else by Monday morning, early afternoon at the latest. It’ll be a distant memory for most by this time next month.

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Sun Jan 20, 2019, 09:28 AM

Achilleaze (15,543 posts)

23. The "republican family-values" role model* has perverted generations of kids

* aka Comrade Dirty Donny, the republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief

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Sun Jan 20, 2019, 02:00 PM

Kurt V. (5,624 posts)

27. I'm hopeful it will

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Sun Jan 20, 2019, 02:02 PM

Star Member tblue37 (59,375 posts)

28. These kinds of photos didn't solve racism, but they did help the Civil Rights movement by

making it impossible to hide the ugly viciousness:

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Sun Jan 20, 2019, 02:06 PM

Star Member Historic NY (36,739 posts)

29. What will change it is when the church's and their arms, schools etc....

will have to pay to play. The Johnson Rule was there for a purpose.

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Sun Jan 20, 2019, 02:59 PM

Star Member paleotn (16,151 posts)

31. How could good christian boys do such a thing?

History is replete with good christian, muslim, hindu, buddhist, (fill in the blank) boys doing unspeakable things.

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