Tulsi Gabbard today: "Both sides...unwilling to come together..."

[manor321]

Welp:

TAPPER: "You're not just blaming President Trump on this. You're also blaming Democratic leaders in Congress."

GABBARD: "Both sides have completely hardened their positions and are unwilling to come together and work out the differences. And that's the problem here."

Link to tweet

[Downtown Hound]

2. Idiot. Will not be supporting her. n/t

[Salviati]

4. More than that. I will be contributing to her primary challenger.

[Cha]

38. Mahalo!

[Eliot Rosewater]

41. Same here, someone needs to let us know who that is when the time comes.

[Generic Brad]

3. ............

If you cannot say something nice about someone, say nothing at all. I have nothing to say about this.

[at140]

10. +22,000,000,000,000

that number is the current national debt.

[handmade34]

5. that's right...

there will be no meeting of the minds with the delusional Administration... the Democrats have not "hardened" their position... we just will not play DT's game

[Miles Archer]

70. Trump wants his $5.7 billion no matter what...that isn't "negotiating."

It's like going into a restaurant.

You see something on the menu and ask your server "what's in this?"

They tell you what's in it, and there is ONE ingredient that you CAN'T stomach, or maybe you're allergic to it.

So you ask the server if the chef can make the dish without that one ingredient, and the server responds "NO."

So you have the choice of ordering the dish and either simply not liking it, or perhaps having an allergic or life-threatening reaction like a peanut allergy, OR...you just don't order the dish.

And every dish Trump has served up has the $5.7 billion in it, and Democrats have done due diligence on the cost-effectiveness and usefulness of this particular "solution," and they KNOW it was a fake campaign promise made by Trump to woo the MAGAts. and in order for Democrats to do the jobs they were elected to do, they MUST say NO to anything that is a WASTE OF TAXPAYERS' money, and resources that could be better used elsewhere. And they HAVE voted for large sums of money...just not to be allocated to a "wall" or "fence" or "barrier."

It's all in the way that this mess is being framed. Trump's not budging on the $5.7 billion, and in his speech yesterday, HE REFERRED TO IT AS A "DOWN PAYMENT!" The "wall" or "fence" does NOT "cost" $5.7 billion. So he offers to temporarily restore programs HE KILLED with "executive orders" in exchange for the $5.7 billion, and that is NOT "compromise."

AND, the Democrats are smart enough to know, and have already said, that if they sign off on the $5.7 billion, he'll shut down the government again (or do something worse) when the next "down payment" is due.

So, the Democrats told their waiter / waitress "no thanks."

Sounds like the smartest move to make, given the circumstances.

[johnp3907]

6. What side is Gabbard on?

[Scruffy1]

15. It's a fair question.

I think she's trying to get some crossover support for her presidental run. I think she won't last long in the race and probably knows it, but is hoping to get some press to build up her status for the future. It's way too early to get excited. It's a long road to the white house and requires tons of organization and lots of money to run an effective campaign. We won't know much until late in the year when we find out which candidates have built an effective ground game. Obama is the standard. He was the only candidate I have seen since Humphrey who had organizers on the ground even at the precinct level. You can do all the press you want, but its the party faithful you need in the primaries.I do know she will have zero support in my precinct and probably close to zero in the Congressional District. Voters usually don't go for those who have lately "seen the light".

[rusty fender]

19. Her own

She has a gargantuan ego and is already a legend in her own mind

[dalton99a]

7. Kai Kahele

http://kaikahele.com/

[Cha]

24. +1!!

[mahina]

30. For CD2? I loved his Dad.

That’s really encouraging. Mahalo.

I guess I’ve been distracted, didn’t know!

[dalton99a]

32. Yes.

[Cha]

40. Great News, mahina!

State Sen. Kai Kahele (Democrat) plans to challenge U.S. Rep. Tulsi Gabbard in 2020

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=11697345

[Hekate]

36. Mahalo

[hlthe2b]

8. Tulsi, I think Bashar al-Assad may need your input. WE surely DON'T...

[Me.]

9. And The Real Tulsi Appears

[yardwork]

11. She's been here all along. Her record speaks for itself. I will not be supporting her.

[Me.]

14. You're Quite Right

but she's been doing her mea culpa tour these last few weeks only to throw off her sheep's cover once again

[yardwork]

16. I'm gay and her "apology" is not accepted. It sounded like her lawyers and publicists wrote it.

Again, Gabbard's record speaks for itself. And her hateful rhetoric and hateful votes against gay people are not even close to the worst aspects of her record.

[Me.]

22. Let's Just Sat She's Not Presidential Material

even with the current low bar.

[Cha]

50. But, TG says..

Link to tweet

[Me.]

51. What A Wahahee

[Cha]

56. uh huh.

[DarthDem]

12. My Favorite Thing About Her

Is how she's always a step or two behind. Rep. Gabbard? 2016 called and wants its bothsiderism back.

[roscoeroscoe]

31. Iknowrite?

The facts are so basic on this mess; who's to blame, who is the grown up in the room.

There is no both sides when Trump is involved, there's only one Trump.

[herding cats]

13. It didn't take long for her to show her true colors.

Here I was thinking she'd make it at least make it a couple of weeks before she attacked the Democrats. Nope.

[yardwork]

17. The Russians don't pay for nothing.

[Cha]

44. Gabbard started last week "attacking Sen Mazie Hirono"..

Hawaii Rep. Tulsi Gabbard accuses fellow Democrats of 'religious bigotry' in questioning judicial nominee

Hirono’s office responded Wednesday that Gabbard was mischaracterizing her questioning of Buescher, and that the senator was voicing her concerns about the nominee’s past public statements rather than his religion.

“It is unfortunate that Congresswoman Gabbard based her misguided opinion on the far-right wing manipulation of these straightforward questions,” Hirono spokesman Will Dempster said in a statement.

He added that over the past two years, Hirono “has been attacked by right wing ideologues for her examination of Donald Trump’s ideologically-driven nominees to the courts.”

“Senator Hirono asks all judicial nominees — particularly those who have expressed very strong personal ideological views in conflict with Supreme Court precedent — if they can be fair,” Dempster said. “She asked Mr. Buescher, who has a clear record of anti-choice activism, whether he could separate his personal beliefs from decisions he would make if confirmed for a lifetime appointment on the federal bench.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/hawaii-rep-tulsi-gabbard-accuses-fellow-democrats-of-religious-bigotry-in-questioning-judicial-nominee/2019/01/09/2c17ecdc-1467-11e9-90a8-136fa44b80ba_story.html?utm_term=.97039859a6e2

herding

[FM123]

57. Mazie Hirono is a national treasure!

I really really love her and I did not appreciate TG's comments!

[bitterross]

18. Yet another reason she's never going to be the nominee

She's spouting Right-Wing talking points.

Her statement is factually incorrect and her conclusion is wrong.

GABBARD: "Both sides have completely hardened their positions and are unwilling to come together and work out the differences. And that's the problem here."

[BannonsLiver]

21. She's not supposed to be the nominee

Her job is to sew division. She is a chaos candidate.

[CottonBear]

34. Sowing confusion is the purpose of chaos candidates.

Dividing and confusing the electorate are the primary tactics of these candidates and elected officials.

[BannonsLiver]

35. Yes, that is correct.

Which is why I wrote the post.

[Adrahil]

20. Hey, great way to start your run for the nomination!

How can anyone support her?

[OnDoutside]

23. So the Democrats put up the SAME bill that Senate Republicans voted for, and they have a hardened

position ? All because McConnell is afraid of Trump's reaction to whatever Ann Coulter rants about. And Dems have hardened their position. Bullshit.

[Cha]

25. shocking

Shows she hasn't been paying attention.

[Wounded Bear]

26. Well, Tulsi is basically a Repub in all but name...

and the current argument seems to be between both sides of the Repub party, so maybe she knows what she is talking about.

[jrandom421]

59. She's only a Democrat

because a Republican isn't going to win in Hawaii, at least for the foreseeable future

[LiberalFighter]

65. Yep!

And there are very few Representatives that are qualified enough to be President. She has not demonstrated it. And probably never will.

[Takket]

27. with friends like these... who needs enemies?

"Both sides" ism is a right wing voter suppression tactic. She should be tossed out of the party.

[mahina]

28. Translation: "Everybody look at meeee"

Nope. Nope nope nopes.

[njhoneybadger]

29. Great Googly Moogly

[Pisces]

33. She's a Jill Stein in wolfs clothing

[we can do it]

37. Well it seems she's learned to bash dems quite like BS.

[JHan]

39. Tulsi's bothsiderism is completely unsurprising.

[peggysue2]

42. Gabbard is dead wrong on the issue

This is not a bothsiderism issue because you have one side dealing from a Bad Faith position. Negotiations are not made on TV or through a twitter account where a one-sided position is stated, sealed as the deal without debate or discussion or compromise.

That's not how it's done. That's not how any of this is done.

The press is now questioning why the Democratic leadership is unwilling to 'make a deal' when the offer Trumpski threw out was a non deal/deal, a temporary protective stance on DACA for a permanent, ineffective, never-ending wall with an astronomical price tag. This is just more bullshit being thrown out, wrapped in yesterday's newsprint, declared new when it's absolutely not.

The Democratic House has already attempted to reopen the government and stop the madness. Gabbard should question Mitch McConnell on why he refuses to bring that legislation to the floor. Instead she falls back to the bothsiderism line of attack, the very thing that has helped drive the current debacle.

[Goodheart]

43. Hey, Tulsi, kiss your ass goodbye.

Don't be wasting any money seeking a nomination.

[yardwork]

58. To be fair, it wasn't her money she was going to waste.

Putin comes around waving cash and some narcissists are going to take the offer.

Take a look: https://www.democraticunderground.org/100211696742

[bullwinkle428]

45. Incredibly dopey strategy, if the comments were geared toward her Pres. campaign.

You're supposed to appeal to the hardcore base voters to get traction, and then move toward the center once you've won the nomination.

[Initech]

46. No, Tulsi, there's just one side that's preventing this fucking insanity from ending.

And that's the republicans.

[USALiberal]

47. Wow, what a clueless response. nt

[beachbum bob]

48. Not a both sides issues and why she is not qualified to even be in

Congress

[Cha]

49. TG says.. she's "not thinking about politics now"..

Link to tweet

[Kurt V.]

52. no chance.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

53. did she get this message pre-approved by Duke and Carlson?

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/tucker-carlson-tulsi-gabbards-being-targeted-with-dishonest-attacks/

https://www.thedailybeast.com/why-conservative-media-and-the-far-right-love-tulsi-gabbard-for-president

[Onyrleft]

54. Found this video of her trying to get out in front of her voting record.

[Recursion]

55. Oh Tulsi. Leave our party and just run as the damn BJP candidate, OK? (nt)

[USALiberal]

60. FFS, going after the GOP voters?? nt

[Maven]

61. Traitor Tulsi. nt

[still_one]

62. Thank you Gabbard for explaining why you don't deserve to be the Democratic nominee. I wonder how

the Our Revolution gang of white ch you are part of feel about the false equivalency you ate setting up

Perhaps it is time for her to go on fox again

Too bad Hawaii was fooled by her

No wonder she was afraid to debate, she knew the real Gabbard would come out

[nini]

63. One side is evil and wrong

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The other is trying to save the country against a mad man. There's no coming together over that.

[JI7]

64. I got a post removed for telling the truth about her

[TheBlackAdder]

67. Time to update My Account Jury Blacklist and add those who seem prone to flag others posts.

.

It's something. I'm sure there are those who will flag one or two posts a year.

I get the impression there are a lot of Mrs. Kravitz types who flag multiple times a month.

There should be a cap on the amount of flags a month, say one per week maximum.

.

[still_one]

72. Appeal

[LiberalFighter]

66. If she is voting with the Democrats regarding the budget bill

then why is she complaining about it? She can't have it both ways.

[Autumn]

68. It's not a matter of differences. Fuck working with Trump.

[spanone]

69. piss off, lady

[Dyedinthewoolliberal]

71. well Tulsi

there is no reason for the D's to negotiate. Did you vote for the CR that Mitch McConnell wont bring up for a vote?

[Tarc]

73. Trump likes to say "both sides" a lot, too.

Pelosi and the Democratic leadership need to keep doing what they're doing; passing bills to reopen government, and leave it to Trump to veto them, or Yertle the Laptop to refuse to consider them.

[Yosemito]

74. Kick