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Yosemito

(648 posts)
Wed Jan 23, 2019, 03:42 PM Jan 2019

Can Trump be prevented from entering the House?

It sounds to me like Donald Trump just wants to barge in the house and deliver the State of the Union speech without being invited. Can Nancy Pelosi instruct Security to get him out of there if he tries to pull this off?
How does this work legally?

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Can Trump be prevented from entering the House? (Original Post) Yosemito Jan 2019 OP
The House and the Senate leftieNanner Jan 2019 #1
Yes. It is pretty well settled that he cannot speak without Pelosi's permission. The interesting dameatball Jan 2019 #6
As I understand it, the Sargent at Arm's does not work for the executive branch... Volaris Jan 2019 #7
Right. I'm just speculating on the optics. I hope the nitwit tries something and gets his ass dameatball Jan 2019 #8
My guess would be he turns his fatass around and goes home rather than get Volaris Jan 2019 #9
Yeah - leftieNanner Jan 2019 #10
No lights or cameras will be available. He would look pretty darned silly. nt tblue37 Jan 2019 #15
The ignorant fool thinks he outrank Pelosi and even that he is her boss. McConnell & Ryan tblue37 Jan 2019 #17
We're all waiting to see him arrested pandr32 Jan 2019 #2
She controls lights and the cameras. There will be no televised SOTU in the House without her perm manor321 Jan 2019 #3
Yep! And that is what Individual 1 wants more than anything. LiberalFighter Jan 2019 #14
He can enter the House but can't speak from the rostrum without permission. octoberlib Jan 2019 #4
the house is in charge of its own security, led by the sergeant-at-arms. unblock Jan 2019 #5
Let him in... lame54 Jan 2019 #11
I think he will probably just lash out in some other way. He can't tolerate being put in his place, dameatball Jan 2019 #12
Even if he shows up and forces his way in... brooklynite Jan 2019 #13
Yeah but a submissive KGOP republican symp could livestream by smart phone Achilleaze Jan 2019 #16
She can douse the lights, too. nt tblue37 Jan 2019 #18

leftieNanner

(15,337 posts)
1. The House and the Senate
Wed Jan 23, 2019, 03:48 PM
Jan 2019

both have to pass resolutions to allow for the SOTU. Legally, he won't be permitted to speak. Practically, I'm guessing that the Sargent at Arms would block his entry. That would be interesting. As I posted on another thread, I hope CNN has their cameras lined up at the door. Wouldn't that be wonderfully embarrassing for Trumpy to be on every news broadcast in that way!

dameatball

(7,445 posts)
6. Yes. It is pretty well settled that he cannot speak without Pelosi's permission. The interesting
Wed Jan 23, 2019, 03:58 PM
Jan 2019

part (at least to me) is what action the Sargent at Arms would take if he insists.

Volaris

(10,356 posts)
7. As I understand it, the Sargent at Arm's does not work for the executive branch...
Wed Jan 23, 2019, 04:02 PM
Jan 2019

but rather, for the co-equal branch of the legislature. Which means he answers to Madame Speaker, and full-well knows this.
My bet is hes smart enough to tell Trump to pound sand, and not lose his job heh.

dameatball

(7,445 posts)
8. Right. I'm just speculating on the optics. I hope the nitwit tries something and gets his ass
Wed Jan 23, 2019, 04:04 PM
Jan 2019

handed to him. But I think it will probably be defused someway.

Volaris

(10,356 posts)
9. My guess would be he turns his fatass around and goes home rather than get
Wed Jan 23, 2019, 04:09 PM
Jan 2019

arrested for tresspassing on live TV...

leftieNanner

(15,337 posts)
10. Yeah -
Wed Jan 23, 2019, 04:12 PM
Jan 2019

another temper tantrum.

My younger daughter was prone to those when she was between 18 months old and 2. So it's past time for him to STOP THIS!

tblue37

(65,831 posts)
17. The ignorant fool thinks he outrank Pelosi and even that he is her boss. McConnell & Ryan
Wed Jan 23, 2019, 04:32 PM
Jan 2019

have sucked up to him to the point that he believes he can demand that Pelosi do this or that. Besides, he thinks women are supposed to be subservient to men.

Because of his ignorance about how the government works, he doesn't realize that the House and Senate comprise the legislative, a government branch co-equal with the executive and the judicial branches.

LiberalFighter

(52,541 posts)
14. Yep! And that is what Individual 1 wants more than anything.
Wed Jan 23, 2019, 04:23 PM
Jan 2019

Since she controls the cameras in the House Chamber he will out of luck.

unblock

(53,079 posts)
5. the house is in charge of its own security, led by the sergeant-at-arms.
Wed Jan 23, 2019, 03:55 PM
Jan 2019

he and his security staff can keep the doors locked, or otherwise deny entry to donnie.

dameatball

(7,445 posts)
12. I think he will probably just lash out in some other way. He can't tolerate being put in his place,
Wed Jan 23, 2019, 04:18 PM
Jan 2019

so he will do something else hurtful and pointless.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
16. Yeah but a submissive KGOP republican symp could livestream by smart phone
Wed Jan 23, 2019, 04:26 PM
Jan 2019

so the kremlin and KKK won't miss a word of what ignoble republican misleader Dirty Donny* spews.

* aka republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief

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