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Yosemito

(648 posts)
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 06:25 AM Jan 2019

How Tulsi Gabbard Unites Bloodstained Hindu Nationalists, the Genocidal Assad and the U.S. Far Right

This article is so good I don't know where to start.
Let's begin with her alleged opposition to the bloody war in Yemen while supporting India's Modi at the same time:

On the one hand, she condemns the Saudi-U.S. led coalition as complicit in a genocidal war, but she welcomes India’s Prime Minister Narendra Modi, who has been called the "man with a massacre on his hands" with open arms.

Let's continue with what her aunt says about her:
Her own aunt, Caroline Sinavaiana Gabbard, has noted her discomfort with this mixed bag of endorsements, in low-key language: Gabbard "has a notably mixed voting record, and associations that veer from certain progressive causes to the apparent courting of strongmen such as Narendra Modi, Bashar al-Assad, and Abdel Fattah el-Sisi (not to mention Trump) - this zigzagging path through positions is vexing."


Let's continue with Russia's YouTube promotion of Gabbard:


And here's Steve Bannon:

Bannon was so impressed with Gabbard as a potential ally that as he brokered a meeting between her and the newly-installed President Donald Trump. Tulsi jumped at the opportunity: in her own words, "I walked out thinking that there may be some opportunity to work with this administration to shift our foreign policy in a more positive, less destructive direction."


Read entire story here: https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.premium-how-tulsi-gabbard-unites-bloodstained-modi-genocidal-assad-and-the-u-s-far-right-1.6870890
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How Tulsi Gabbard Unites Bloodstained Hindu Nationalists, the Genocidal Assad and the U.S. Far Right (Original Post) Yosemito Jan 2019 OP
Why does she receive so much coverage on DU malaise Jan 2019 #1
Because we have certain suspicions Yosemito Jan 2019 #2
Because there's a large number of fifty-something and sixty-something white dudes with Old Left cred Recursion Jan 2019 #4
Could be because she's so easy on the eyes? calimary Jan 2019 #5
She's a snake, and she's on Narendra Modi's payroll Recursion Jan 2019 #6
She's not really though. Ninsianna Jan 2019 #8
She got some of their votes by deciding to endorse Bernie, I think, pnwmom Jan 2019 #37
She was unlikely, by her background and positions, to have won in Hawaii. pnwmom Jan 2019 #36
Tulsi Gabbard's 2020 bid is confounding when viewed through a lens in which winning is the goal. Cha Jan 2019 #3
My thoughts exactly. Thanks for posting, Cha. oasis Jan 2019 #9
You're Cha Jan 2019 #10
".. launching onto national stage, boasting prominence, & disrupting party & process the goal..." hlthe2b Jan 2019 #12
She's the chaos candidate BannonsLiver Jan 2019 #29
she's doing a good job on herself. Cha Jan 2019 #30
like she did in 2016 with the bs attacks against dnc JI7 Jan 2019 #35
I don't trust her either BannonsLiver Jan 2019 #38
why do people keep pretending this utterly clueless white lady Ninsianna Jan 2019 #7
She is not white oberliner Jan 2019 #13
She is one teeny bit American Samoan, but is almost completely white obamanut2012 Jan 2019 #20
wrong (and IMHO, really racist, to try and deny a POC their heritage, regardless of your politics) Celerity Jan 2019 #39
She is. European heritage. Are you referring to her tan? Ninsianna Jan 2019 #23
Because her mother is a white practicing Hindu obamanut2012 Jan 2019 #21
um, her family is Hare Krishna, whose founder and tenets reject the Ninsianna Jan 2019 #22
I've been waiting for this article, watoos Jan 2019 #11
TG is "destroying" herself with statements like this Cha Jan 2019 #15
She is a Democrat who has a more anti-Trump voting record than Beto O'Rourke oberliner Jan 2019 #14
Yes! mountain grammy Jan 2019 #17
lulz obamanut2012 Jan 2019 #19
I don't recall Beto rushing over to embrace Trump and the Nazi. Ninsianna Jan 2019 #24
that ain't sayin' much Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2019 #26
LOL BannonsLiver Jan 2019 #31
This is a right wing publication. mountain grammy Jan 2019 #16
RT? Ninsianna Jan 2019 #25
Looks like a hit piece. obnoxiousdrunk Jan 2019 #28
What better publication to chronicle Tulsi BannonsLiver Jan 2019 #32
Haaretz is not right wing Yosemito Jan 2019 #41
She is going to pull an Independent run obamanut2012 Jan 2019 #18
Where is she going to get the money? Putin? Ninsianna Jan 2019 #27
Where did Stein her her money? obamanut2012 Jan 2019 #34
Her boss, of course. Ninsianna Jan 2019 #40
Simple: For candidates who don't call out and refuse Russia's and the Repubs' Hortensis Jan 2019 #33
 

Yosemito

(648 posts)
2. Because we have certain suspicions
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 06:35 AM
Jan 2019

That makes us uncomfortable.
And she can harm the party and our future nominee even if she doesn't win.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
4. Because there's a large number of fifty-something and sixty-something white dudes with Old Left cred
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 06:54 AM
Jan 2019

who absolutely love her, for reasons that I completely fail to grasp.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
6. She's a snake, and she's on Narendra Modi's payroll
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 07:19 AM
Jan 2019

I want her out of Congress and out of the party.

pnwmom

(109,197 posts)
37. She got some of their votes by deciding to endorse Bernie, I think,
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 08:31 PM
Jan 2019

though her record is more conservative than his.

pnwmom

(109,197 posts)
36. She was unlikely, by her background and positions, to have won in Hawaii.
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 08:30 PM
Jan 2019

She is much more conservative than her state.

So I don't think we should be ignoring her.

hlthe2b

(103,500 posts)
12. ".. launching onto national stage, boasting prominence, & disrupting party & process the goal..."
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 07:43 AM
Jan 2019

Full quote: "But It makes perfect sense when viewed through a lens in which launching herself onto the national stage, boosting her prominence, and disrupting the party & the process is the goal."

Yup... how very Jill Steinian of you, Tulsi.

BannonsLiver

(16,997 posts)
29. She's the chaos candidate
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 07:58 PM
Jan 2019

Her job is to ugly up the process. The first bit of that comes when she’s left out of the debates.

BannonsLiver

(16,997 posts)
38. I don't trust her either
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 08:32 PM
Jan 2019

The attacks on Obama should be added to the list of her sins. Btw, notice that a certain poster has moved on from boosting the Covington kids to boosting Tulsi?

Ninsianna

(1,352 posts)
7. why do people keep pretending this utterly clueless white lady
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 07:20 AM
Jan 2019

Has anything to do with the politics of a country she knows jack shit about? She's money grubbing from well settled Indian people. That's it. Indians don't give a crap about her. She's one of those oddities, the white American Hare Krishnas that cosplay in Desi clothes while butchering Sanskrit. Their leader insisted that his flock was not Hindu.

Celerity

(45,262 posts)
39. wrong (and IMHO, really racist, to try and deny a POC their heritage, regardless of your politics)
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 08:34 PM
Jan 2019
http://ethnicelebs.com/tulsi-gabbard

Tulsi’s father was born in Fagatogo, American Samoa. Both of Tulsi’s paternal grandparents were of Samoan and European heritage. Her paternal grandfather was of about one quarter Samoan descent, and her paternal grandmother was of possibly as much as seven eighths Samoan ancestry.

snip


She is around a quarter (25%) or so Samoan or approximately 17 to 250 times more Samoan than Elizabeth Warren is Native American (approx 1.5% to 0.1% depending if her Native American ancestor was 6,7,8,9, or 10 generations back).

I myself am hyper-miscegenated (Sub-Saharan black African, Scottish, English, Chinese, Sephardic Jewish, Portuguese, Lebanese) with probably a quarter of that being black African, and it shows quite obviously, as does the Chinese.

Here is her grandmother on her fathers side, Aknesis Agnes.



Here is Aknesis Agnes husband's (so the other side of her father's bloodline) mother, Carrie (Bartley) Gabbard




So, no, Tulsi is not some white woman trying to pass off some teenie, tiny part Samoan heritage.

I would never vote for her in the primaries but I will not let people be racially slandered. Not cool at all.

obamanut2012

(26,526 posts)
21. Because her mother is a white practicing Hindu
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 08:36 AM
Jan 2019

And they belong to a Hare Krishnaish cult -- she is a teeny bit American Samoan from her Dad, but he is also mostly white. You are 100% correct. And, she still is under Chris Butler's commands.

Ninsianna

(1,352 posts)
22. um, her family is Hare Krishna, whose founder and tenets reject the
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 07:18 PM
Jan 2019

label of Hindu, and Hindus do not refer to ourselves as "practicing" because that is not how Hindu philosophy works.

She's using her "Krishna consciousness" group and her looks (she looks vaguely Indian if you don't look too closely), and her name to market herself. The Indian community is well settled and has money.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
11. I've been waiting for this article,
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 07:31 AM
Jan 2019

I used to blog at my right wing local web site in central Pa. until I got thrown out. I saw a lot of posts from Haaretz from my right wing friends. I clicked on the provided link and found a lot of nothing.

I don't know squat about her Hindu nationalist relationships to comment about this.

I do agree with her strongly that we need to stop killing innocent civilians in Yemen.

Ah yes, she served in the military so she has a better idea of what is going on in Syria than most politicians. She met with a butcher, Assad. She feels that we shouldn't have gotten involved in Syria's civil war, I agree. Saddam Hussein was a terrible butcher too but that doesn't make our invasion into Iraq defensible.

I don't believe that Assad gassed his own people, I believe it was a false flag operation to get the U.S. involved, just like the WMD stories got us involved in Iraq.

I don't know if I would vote for Tulsi in the primary, but I do know that there is a concentrated effort from the left and right to destroy her. We need someone who is tough as nails to run in 2020. There is no doubt in my mind that she fits that bill. I need to investigate her more just because of the way that so many are attacking her.

Maybe you are right about her Yosemito, but you need a better link to make your points.

Ninsianna

(1,352 posts)
27. Where is she going to get the money? Putin?
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 07:25 PM
Jan 2019

India recognizes Kamala as an NRI (non resident Indian, i.e. one of our own), her visits to her family in Chennai, her actual name and her growing up with Hindu values the way they're actually practices by Hindus. It's a pluralistic, tolerant way of life that doesn't require "practice", it"s just how you live your life. Most of us don't need or have "gurus", to tell us how to be decent people.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
33. Simple: For candidates who don't call out and refuse Russia's and the Repubs'
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 08:09 PM
Jan 2019

pushing, point them to the alley. We can learn from our mistakes, and useful candidates can from theirs as well.

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