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boston bean

(36,221 posts)
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 08:17 AM Jan 2019

Ok. When does the media finally admit they helped a hostile foreign government interfere in the 2016

Presidential election and get Trump elected??

And in doing so ignored the most important national security event of the decade?

Well because of her emails.

They were insatiable with their reporting of stolen information obtained via a foreign intel agency.

This s in no way comparable to the pentagon papers.

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Ok. When does the media finally admit they helped a hostile foreign government interfere in the 2016 (Original Post) boston bean Jan 2019 OP
Corporate media has shamed itself for all time Achilleaze Jan 2019 #1
I believe Rachel Maddow should call them out FakeNoose Jan 2019 #26
Never Va Lefty Jan 2019 #2
When they can turn a profit thucythucy Jan 2019 #3
Yes, but let's keep in mind who is profit seeking: the executives sharedvalues Jan 2019 #6
And they are STILL aiding and abetting that power BumRushDaShow Jan 2019 #4
I think you got that right. triron Jan 2019 #14
Hugest political scandal in US history, bar none sharedvalues Jan 2019 #5
The analogy I have heard from the media is that the information from wiki leaks was like the boston bean Jan 2019 #8
Wikileaks releases are more like Pearl Harbor sharedvalues Jan 2019 #13
+1 dalton99a Jan 2019 #9
Media consolidation has destroyed it UpInArms Jan 2019 #7
GOPer defanged FTC, FCC, etc. Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2019 #15
Do you remember when Michael Powell UpInArms Jan 2019 #17
prototypical GOPer Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2019 #18
You should be a published columnist UpInArms Jan 2019 #19
thank you Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2019 #22
I am sorry about your local paper UpInArms Jan 2019 #25
K&R! Boomerproud Jan 2019 #20
"corporate greed and bad government" -- GOP Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2019 #23
2 words. akraven Jan 2019 #10
The first agency to actually admit this, and promise to do better, will get a boost unitedwethrive Jan 2019 #11
Never. They may go so far as "mistakes were made", like they always do... JHB Jan 2019 #12
Zucker did a long time ago, when he admitted how much money CNN made off the Trump campaign. sarcasmo Jan 2019 #16
I follow some on Twitter mcar Jan 2019 #21
when they admit their role in the Iraq War and just all of Bush's disasters JI7 Jan 2019 #24
Excellent post and great comments. I recall Moonves saying it may not be great for the country c-rational Jan 2019 #27
Facebook could have changed all that FakeNoose Jan 2019 #28

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
1. Corporate media has shamed itself for all time
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 08:23 AM
Jan 2019

and will never admit to their cowardly and twisted bothsiderism complicity in screwing over American democracy.

FakeNoose

(32,634 posts)
26. I believe Rachel Maddow should call them out
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 12:48 PM
Jan 2019

Unfortunately it would probably get her fired, so it would probably never happen. It's going to take a strong liberal voice with unquestioned motives (and brass balls) to call these media executives out. On second thought, maybe it's something PBO should handle.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
6. Yes, but let's keep in mind who is profit seeking: the executives
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 09:27 AM
Jan 2019

Key dynamics in the media industry:
The executives who run the show are largely conservative and almost all are focused on profit over truth.
The journalists typically care more about truth but have been brainwashed into “both sides” by the rightwing media propaganda machine.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
5. Hugest political scandal in US history, bar none
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 09:25 AM
Jan 2019

The analogy to the Pentagon Papers is that Mueller is like Ellsberg, both revealing the truth. And Putin, Assange, Wikileaks, Stone, Bannon, and Trump are the liars who are selling out America, as did Nixon and guys like Macnamara.

boston bean

(36,221 posts)
8. The analogy I have heard from the media is that the information from wiki leaks was like the
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 09:32 AM
Jan 2019

Pentagon papers and as they did then they did now.

That analogy is a steaming pile of bullshit.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
13. Wikileaks releases are more like Pearl Harbor
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 08:03 PM
Jan 2019

Except the Russian attack was laundered through Wikileaks and hidden, instead of blowing up battleships in Hawaii.

It is an absolute treasonous DISGRACE that Republicans are pretending the Russians are their friends.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,332 posts)
15. GOPer defanged FTC, FCC, etc.
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 08:37 PM
Jan 2019

Reaganites started the attacks on regulation. Agencies created for consumer benefit were turned around in their mission to facilitate what conglomerates wanted.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,332 posts)
18. prototypical GOPer
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 02:00 AM
Jan 2019

His views are straight out of the 'free market' book of lies. The mythical self-regulating free market works only if all consumers are fully informed, presumably by magic. One need look no further than the tobacco industry to see how consumers cannot become fully informed in the face of concentrated power, greed, and wealth, and in fact are deliberately misinformed in the quest to further concentrate same.

Consumers must rely on the power they wield collectively through government because individually we are overwhelmed by large business. Deregulation should be done only where the particular regulation is found to be worse than its absence. Unregulated business leads to the barbarianism of the beginning of the Industrial Age.

Multi-national corporations are not elected to govern, yet they have the power to alter government. If society is to be shaped for people, then the people must constrain the ravenous beast of their own industry.

UpInArms

(51,282 posts)
19. You should be a published columnist
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 10:33 AM
Jan 2019

I hope, at the very least, you are submitting letters to your local newspaper’s editor.

Thank you.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,332 posts)
22. thank you
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 12:14 PM
Jan 2019

Thanks for the kind words. I'm just glad it was semi-coherent.

My local newspaper was taken over before the infamous (non-) election. Its Editorial after election day was nothing but gushing praise for Trump and anger over the "attempt to demonize a good man". That resulted in my canceling a subscription that had run for about 40 years. It went from local news to RW advocacy in short order.

UpInArms

(51,282 posts)
25. I am sorry about your local paper
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 12:38 PM
Jan 2019

I still think you should write and submit to anything that is near you

Boomerproud

(7,952 posts)
20. K&R!
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 11:03 AM
Jan 2019

Your comment about trusting the free market to regulate itself with no oversight was brilliant. That should be the argument made when anyone says they hate ALL government. I want corporate greed and bad government both out of my life

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,332 posts)
23. "corporate greed and bad government" -- GOP
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 12:18 PM
Jan 2019

The GOP has been working for the billionaire class, and growing it, since at least Reagan. The GOP stoke fear and anger to convince millions to vote against their own interests, then use the power of government to do the bidding of corporations instead of citizens. That's fascism.

unitedwethrive

(1,997 posts)
11. The first agency to actually admit this, and promise to do better, will get a boost
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 03:48 PM
Jan 2019

in public support. I think it will happen, but not until all of the repub crimes come to light.

JHB

(37,159 posts)
12. Never. They may go so far as "mistakes were made", like they always do...
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 03:52 PM
Jan 2019

...but it won't be so far that they'd have to do something different. They'll fall back into their comfortable patterns in jig time. Again.

They won't change until somehow there is a housecleaning.

mcar

(42,307 posts)
21. I follow some on Twitter
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 11:09 AM
Jan 2019

They get so defensive when it's brought up. They will never do any self-reflection.

JI7

(89,248 posts)
24. when they admit their role in the Iraq War and just all of Bush's disasters
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 12:23 PM
Jan 2019

and helping W Bush get into office both times.

c-rational

(2,592 posts)
27. Excellent post and great comments. I recall Moonves saying it may not be great for the country
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 12:56 PM
Jan 2019

but is good for the corporation. It will only stop when the use of our public airwaves are regulated to prevent its use for spreading propaganda. People often do things when working for a corporation that they would never do as an individual, and I believe one of our biggest legal flaws is equating an individual and a corporation. In speaking with the local gardener/philosopher, he said the last stage of capitalism is State Monopoly Capitalism where the role of government is to protect the corporation. I hope we are not there and may still rein in corporate powers and the public at large finally understands the 'market' is not free but needs to be regulated for a just society to exist.

FakeNoose

(32,634 posts)
28. Facebook could have changed all that
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 12:57 PM
Jan 2019

Facebook could have turned it around and done something good for American democracy, the Bill of Rights, and the American people. But we all know what happened to Facebook - they're just as rotten as all the other "new" media.

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