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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNancy Pelosi has won the shutdown
Trump will say the following today:
1. Govt opening with a clean CR for 3 weeks.
2. If no progress toward wall in 3 weeks, he will "declare emergency" and take funds from DoD to build it.
There won't be another shutdown again in 3 weeks, because there's no way in hell the GOP - especially McConnell - is going to let it happen again. So there will be another clean CR in 3 weeks that will last for the year, and Trump will have to declare his emergency or not.
If he does... Courts will immediately block him. If he doesn't.... his base will abandon him.
Either way..... America wins. And Nancy can spike the football.
Thank God for Nancy Pelosi.

bearsfootball516
(6,713 posts)underpants
(196,502 posts)He could tell them anything and theyd believe it. BuhLeeve me.
SunSeeker
(58,283 posts)gordianot
(15,772 posts)Not that caved in but he was so weak that he fell for her taunt to begin with.
stonecutter357
(13,045 posts)BumRushDaShow
(169,761 posts)The courts won't have to block. From what I gather, there are dozens of "States of Emergency" in effect with at least one going back to Carter's Presidency -
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/list-31-national-emergencies-effect-years/story?id=60294693
I don't want to say that they are "meaningless" but in the grand scheme, they are. In his case he wants to be able to grab money out of a pot that has an appropriation (DOD) to give to some (probably Russian-associated) contractors.
aggiesal
(10,806 posts)You stated that:
In his case he wants to be able to grab money out of a pot that has an
appropriation (DOD) to give to some (probably Russian-associated) contractors.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211694392
BumRushDaShow
(169,761 posts)is where I heard about the Russian connection!
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)The Rich Guy's who owe NFL teams and their Super Bowl Sunday in Atlanta in two weeks. It finally affected a Rich Prick from the Hampdens.
Arkansas Granny
(32,265 posts)just to the Democratic party, but to the nation as a whole. She has given us a real lesson on public service.
Skraxx
(3,178 posts)wryter2000
(47,940 posts)And the Dems right now.
Solomon
(12,644 posts)his base will NEVER abandon him, EVEN if he never gets his wall. Why do people keep saying this?
scheming daemons
(25,487 posts)SharonAnn
(14,173 posts)BumRushDaShow
(169,761 posts)never abandoned another crooked President -

SunSeeker
(58,283 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,848 posts)while still high, is not as firm as it was a year ago. He was in the 90s before and now is around 80%? - it took George W Bush 4 1/2 years to drop below 80% among Republicans (hurricane Katrina) when he quickly went from like 81% to high 60s.
and, of the Trump supporters out there, fewer "strongly support" him as opposed to just "support" him.
So, while his support looks solid, it really is not.
Dawson Leery
(19,568 posts)his base will be deflated.
Vinca
(53,994 posts)He doesn't even realize that if he waits 3 weeks it will not be considered an emergency by any court when it's challenged.
murielm99
(32,988 posts)I ask respectfully.
I hope you are right.
Vinca
(53,994 posts)fixes and Dad never said no. When the casino went bankrupt and the banks were closing in, they eventually bailed him out instead of letting him go down the tubes. The first wife claimed marital rape and was bought off and denied the allegation. He's had a giant clean-up crew following him around his entire life sweeping up his messes. Well, he's got one woman who will have none of it. No coddling Don, no clean-up crew. For the first time in his life he's being held accountable.
murielm99
(32,988 posts)sweeping up his messes. I know people like that. Usually, they are rich and privileged.
Thanks for the answer.
Kingofalldems
(40,279 posts)IronLionZion
(51,271 posts)and are part of her success
firstwife
(115 posts)Back off, just Back Off!
George II
(67,782 posts)Roadside Attraction
(238 posts)Trump could be in jail. Problem solved.
True Blue American
(18,579 posts)But I choose not to!
He does not dare, now that Republicans are turning on Trump he has no where to go!
InAbLuEsTaTe
(25,518 posts)Lanius
(662 posts)I can't wait to get home this afternoon to see how President Baby Hands and his enablers try to spin this.
handmade34
(24,017 posts)I take no pleasure in seeing our country so divided that we talk of winners and losers... I have said for years that we are in trouble as long as citizens don't understand that we are all in this together...
elmac
(4,642 posts)jb5150
(1,362 posts)and yes, I put the word men in quotes on purpose.
raccoon
(32,390 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,906 posts)That's what funds the government when the budget limits are reached.
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)Baltimike
(4,441 posts)keithbvadu2
(40,915 posts)I believe his 'national emergency' is a bluff.
And I'm not alone.
An emergency that can wait is not an emergency.
malaise
(296,118 posts)Rec
lame54
(39,771 posts)An emergency can be shelved to be pulled out as needed