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Atticus

(15,124 posts)
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 07:34 PM Jan 2019

I'll ask this now: if Mueller completes and delivers his report and Whitaker or Barr do not

share it in its entirety with the American public (excepting only truly CLASSIFIED information), what are we going to do? I will not "pollute" the discussion with my suggestions.

How will we respond?

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manor321

(3,344 posts)
1. At a minimum, the "Gang of Eight" is allowed to see classified info
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 07:37 PM
Jan 2019

They won't be able to keep it from Congress.

And Mueller will NOT be done soon. Count on it.

hlthe2b

(102,337 posts)
2. Bipart bill intro'd to ensure Mueller's findings can't be buried, must release to Congress & Public
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 07:39 PM
Jan 2019




BTW, I don't believe Whittaker's comment for a moment. He's speaking to an audience of one. I highly doubt he's even being fully briefed. For one thing, Mueller's grand jury just got extended for six months.

hlthe2b

(102,337 posts)
9. We are ALL fully aware of that. The message sent remains. And, subpoena of report remains
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 08:03 PM
Jan 2019

the potential answer (along with bringing Mueller before Congress).

hlthe2b

(102,337 posts)
12. Exactly where did I say THAT?
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 08:14 PM
Jan 2019

Please read what I wrote and not what you wish I had written.

BTW, I'd be fully glad to debate this if you will lose the condescending attitude.

hlthe2b

(102,337 posts)
14. 51 Senators can overrule McConnell and force a vote. WHat you believe is MSM BS
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 08:42 PM
Jan 2019

It has become Senate CUSTOM to defer to the Majority Leader, BUT 51 Senators can STILL force a vote.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/27/opinion/mitch-mcconnell-mueller-bill.html


And yet the bill will not pass — will not even get a vote — because of the obstinacy of McConnell.

Or at least that’s the story that you may have read in virtually every media outlet yesterday. The full truth is a bit different.

McConnell does not have the power to block a bill from being voted on. No senator does, not even the majority leader. Any senator can propose that a bill receive a vote. And if 51 senators want it to receive a vote, they can ensure that it does. Senate custom, however, has become that senators from both parties forfeit that power to the majority leader: The majority leader now decides what does and doesn’t get a vote.


Further, this convention to defer to the Senate majority leader can be negated and replaced by majority vote-- Senate rules and conventions can and have been changed in the past. Even McConnell could be voted out by mere majority of R's demanding a vote/new election.


HOWEVER, and this is the point. A bill doesn't even have to pass the Senate to send a message--evidence the effect the House-passed bill to reopen government sans wall funding and the fact it got more votes in the Senate (including R votes) than the alternate R version. How fast after seeing that R's were breaking ranks did it take for Trump to fold? Hours!

Takket

(21,611 posts)
5. Whitaker/Barr have a better chance of stopping Niagara Falls with a sponge
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 07:46 PM
Jan 2019

Than stopping that report from getting out........

tblue37

(65,483 posts)
6. Notice how he reveals large chunks of his report in his indictment narratives? He is
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 07:59 PM
Jan 2019

covering that contingency, I think.

Qutzupalotl

(14,322 posts)
10. Any relevant House committee can subpoena Mueller to testify
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 08:05 PM
Jan 2019

in closed or open session, or both. The information will get out, whether the report does or not.

There’s a strong possibility Mueller will “speak” via further indictments.

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