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(6,377 posts)I think it could be a legit battleground state in 2024 or 2028.
NewJeffCT
(56,829 posts)At least at the VP level, I think Democrats have a shot at Texas - or at least making Republicans work hard to win.
Julian Castro
Beto O'Rourke
Xavier Becerra
Eric Garcetti
Because of voter suppression and other issues, Hispanic turnout is usually not great (when Dems thought Clinton had a shot in AZ in 2016, Jan Brewer mocked their chances because she said that Hispanic voters don't turn out...)
Takket
(21,677 posts)This is why they dont want immigrants to be citizens. They are afraid Latinos will turn Texas blue forever. If the right loses Texas they will never win another election for president.
Dem_4_Life
(1,765 posts)This is going to be interesting.
honest.abe
(8,688 posts)Thats why they are worried.
Wounded Bear
(58,765 posts)but I don't think we lose all of those states. I sense some real Trump fatigue growing in the midwest. I don't see it getting much better either.
honest.abe
(8,688 posts)but this time we cannot take anything for granted.
Wounded Bear
(58,765 posts)I want Wave 2.0. Another dozen or so House seats and at least 4-6 Senate seats. All in addition to a 350-400 vote pres win.
I'm greedy like that.
NewJeffCT
(56,829 posts)I can see MI, PA and WI all swinging back to a Democrat. Not sure about Iowa and Ohio?
But, no time to let up - I'm hoping for a crushing victory as a total rebuke of Trump.
Wounded Bear
(58,765 posts)Would hate to see it, but Ohio is looking more like Indiana now.
Ace Rothstein
(3,196 posts)Ohio is probably a lost cause at this point. It was over a 600k vote swing from 2012 to 2016 and Clinton lost by almost a half million votes there.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)I don't think Ohio will become a lost cause before Steve King's Iowa does.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)We could win Texas and lose Ohio or Iowa. But if we win Texas, we'll win Florida, Arizona, North Carolina and those Upper Midwest battleground states that were blue for 6-7 straight presidential elections prior to 2016.
Winning Texas means nationwide Democratic turnout is off the charts. It'll mean 400 electoral votes is within reach. I'd be thrilled with 350. I think turning Texas blue is still a couple cycles away.
honest.abe
(8,688 posts)I can imagine a scenario, with Beto or Julian Castro as the VP paired with Kamala Harris, where we might win Texas but lose some of those other states I listed.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)I'm confident we'll win MI, WI and PA with or without TX. I'm less confident about Florida but I can't imagine losing Florida (or Arizona) if we win Texas, regardless of who is on the ticket.
Turnout between those states isn't going to vary drastically, no matter who the VP nominee is.
honest.abe
(8,688 posts)My overall point was how big an impact Texas is.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,397 posts)Jimmy Carter.
Cha
(297,933 posts)Gothmog
(145,789 posts)Garrett78
(10,721 posts)Meanwhile, Ohio and Iowa may be going the way of Missouri, a former bellwether. Time will tell.
Hopefully Florida and North Carolina will move in our direction the way Virginia, Colorado and Nevada have.
Gothmog
(145,789 posts)Link to tweet
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Gothmog
(145,789 posts)I live in a suburb of Houston. We voted for Clinton in 2016 but lost all of the local races. In 2016, the county went for Beto and won the county wide state races where we had a candidate. The big cities have been blue for a while and now the suburbs are turning blue. This is not good for trump https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/campaigns/white-suburbia-the-source-of-trumps-texas-troubles
Its the suburbs, Robin Armstrong, who represents Texas on the Republican National Committee, acknowledged in an interview with the Washington Examiner. Thats basically the womans vote. We need to make sure that were engaging females and letting them know that were addressing their values and concerns.
In 2018, Hispanic turnout in Texas rose by about 73 percent from 2014, according to a post-election review issued by Latino Victory Fund. But, as revealed by figures compiled by the Texas secretary of state, voter turnout overall increase a bit more, by about 77 percent. That would suggest the growing strength of Democrats in the state is not due to the rising Hispanic population.
Texas could be in play in 2020
jpljr77
(1,004 posts)The Texas GOP is looking for that sweet, sweet Trump campaign money, nothing more.