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Delmette2.0

(4,164 posts)
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 01:50 PM Jan 2019

Howard Schultz is on The View saying the Medicare for All is free.

Free government healthcare. I took that to mean that no one who would have to pay into Medicare premiums.

I always thought that we would have to pay some premium or extra taxes, but it would still be much less than private insurance.

Am I wrong? How would he get such an idea?

I'm adding this.

He just said the important issues are not abortion or race but financial security.

Now, we know where this guy is coming from, in my opinion.

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Howard Schultz is on The View saying the Medicare for All is free. (Original Post) Delmette2.0 Jan 2019 OP
How would he get the idea? Borchkins Jan 2019 #1
You have that right! Delmette2.0 Jan 2019 #8
I personally don't care what he says. If he wants to run as a Dem, OK, otherwise just noise. walkingman Jan 2019 #2
You are not wrong. still_one Jan 2019 #3
I think it can be free for the lower income people... Joe941 Jan 2019 #4
Yes, there is alwys allowances for that. Delmette2.0 Jan 2019 #9
I would presume he has no idea how medicare and social security work comradebillyboy Jan 2019 #5
Health Insurance at Starbucks Homoudont Jan 2019 #16
Disqualifyingly ignorant or a f--king liar? He speaks, you decide! RockRaven Jan 2019 #6
Medicare is NOT FREE leftieNanner Jan 2019 #7
You hit on all the other items i wanted to quickly add in. Delmette2.0 Jan 2019 #10
And Thanks for starting the conversation leftieNanner Jan 2019 #11
The point is it can be. Joe941 Jan 2019 #12
How can it be free? leftieNanner Jan 2019 #32
The rich pay via 70% tax. Joe941 Jan 2019 #36
AHA! leftieNanner Jan 2019 #38
Another Donnie two scoops. redstatebluegirl Jan 2019 #13
Exactly. Entitled and totally out of touch with anyone but himself. Vinca Jan 2019 #15
Maybe without the rampant racism and misogyny FakeNoose Jan 2019 #33
Fuck Gimme a Tax Break So I Can Keep All My Money Howard Schultz. Autumn Jan 2019 #14
Yep, he had to talk around it, Delmette2.0 Jan 2019 #18
He's either clueless or lying. Probably both. nt SunSeeker Jan 2019 #17
+1 Just waiting for this cat's violetpastille Jan 2019 #27
"Free" is a Conservative talking point, a false narrative, nothing new. ooky Jan 2019 #19
Yea, I get that now. Delmette2.0 Jan 2019 #20
medicare, an earned benefit, deducted from paychecks and from social security checks if msongs Jan 2019 #21
I guess if you don't have to worry about affording retirement or Delmette2.0 Jan 2019 #22
Medicare isn't even free Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2019 #23
It is not subsidized. Blue_true Jan 2019 #40
Even Now It's Not Free Me. Jan 2019 #24
I know, even in retirement I'm still paying. Delmette2.0 Jan 2019 #25
Yea me too, I'm retired and on Medicare ooky Jan 2019 #26
medicare pamdb Jan 2019 #28
He is running to confuse the voters and protect the 1% KWR65 Jan 2019 #29
Another "centrist" with Republican views. Screw you Schultz. Power 2 the People Jan 2019 #30
Maybe only correct thing he said from your post: important issue - financial security, elleng Jan 2019 #31
Bernie's Medicare for All plan still requires people to pay 2.2 % of income in premiums MichMan Jan 2019 #34
If he runs, he will keep talking about his plan. Delmette2.0 Jan 2019 #35
For some it would be more. WeekiWater Jan 2019 #37
It's paid by taxes it's not free. Voltaire2 Jan 2019 #39
Howard Schultz is running against the Democratic party KitSileya Jan 2019 #41

Borchkins

(724 posts)
1. How would he get the idea?
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 01:51 PM
Jan 2019

He's a d-bag?
He only cares about his millions/billions?
He's an old white guy?

Just spit balling here.

 

Joe941

(2,848 posts)
4. I think it can be free for the lower income people...
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 01:53 PM
Jan 2019

The more affluent will certainly have to pay their fair share.

Homoudont

(36 posts)
16. Health Insurance at Starbucks
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 02:21 PM
Jan 2019

They do offer health care for part and full time employees. Maybe not the best in the world, but for a non traditional college student that can't work 40 hours a week its a life saver.

RockRaven

(14,966 posts)
6. Disqualifyingly ignorant or a f--king liar? He speaks, you decide!
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 01:56 PM
Jan 2019

Either way he is embarrassing himself.

leftieNanner

(15,084 posts)
7. Medicare is NOT FREE
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 01:56 PM
Jan 2019

Fortunately, I have lived long enough to end up on Medicare. I pay approximately $350 per month for all three parts (including drug coverage). This guy is a Class A Moron. This comment of his is up there with needing an ID to buy groceries.

That said, if we were all able to pay our insurance premiums into a Medicare program and then be well covered, it could be a very sustainable program. Not everything is covered, but Medicare doesn't have a profit margin on top of the care costs. And their administrative costs are very low.

Delmette2.0

(4,164 posts)
10. You hit on all the other items i wanted to quickly add in.
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 02:04 PM
Jan 2019

Just one more thing. I pay about the same to have full Medicare coverage, all three programs. And we have both paid into Medicare with every paycheck when we were working.

Thank you for your comment.

leftieNanner

(15,084 posts)
32. How can it be free?
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 05:45 PM
Jan 2019

Where would the money come from? We all contribute to Medicare through our payroll deductions and then we pay for the coverage when we begin to use it.

Please explain your thoughts to me Joe.

FakeNoose

(32,634 posts)
33. Maybe without the rampant racism and misogyny
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 05:55 PM
Jan 2019

The system is already rigged to help the rich white guys get even richer, and Howard Schultz has worked hard and made a lot of money. But getting into politics just to maintain the rigged system, man that's just evil. We already have too many of those in Washington.

Autumn

(45,066 posts)
14. Fuck Gimme a Tax Break So I Can Keep All My Money Howard Schultz.
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 02:19 PM
Jan 2019

Watching him on The View all I got out of it is that his priority is financial security for wealthy.

ooky

(8,922 posts)
19. "Free" is a Conservative talking point, a false narrative, nothing new.
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 02:53 PM
Jan 2019

Opposition candidates intentionally mischaracterize our platform and policy positions as "free" to
distort and demean our positions. Its outright lying.

Delmette2.0

(4,164 posts)
20. Yea, I get that now.
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 03:00 PM
Jan 2019

He really needs to go away, keep his opinions to himself.

Thanks for contributing.

Delmette2.0

(4,164 posts)
22. I guess if you don't have to worry about affording retirement or
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 03:09 PM
Jan 2019

paying for healthcare then you don't have to understand how it works.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
40. It is not subsidized.
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 12:12 AM
Jan 2019

Maybe low lifetime earners get some subsidy after a couple of years, but anyone who max out each year put around $120,000+ into the system before drawing a penny. I honestly would like to see high wage earners be able to opt out of drawing benefits and leave the money they put in for others. I really feel that being able to make a lot of money is a privilege that demands that something be given back in return.

ooky

(8,922 posts)
26. Yea me too, I'm retired and on Medicare
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 03:27 PM
Jan 2019

Paying $260 a month total for the Medicare part B deduction and supplement plans. And very happy with it.

pamdb

(1,332 posts)
28. medicare
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 03:32 PM
Jan 2019

He's either stupid or lying. I pay $134 a month for Medicare PLUS $122 a month for supplemental coverage. No one has EVER talked about free medicare. Democrats need to emphasize that when they talk about Medicare for all IT WILL NOT BE FREE..You're still talking $250 a month. So if you have a husband and wife, that's $500 for the both of them. Personally, I think kids should be free until some age. 16? 18? 10? whatever. If you have 2 teenagers plus two adults, that's $1,000 a month if kids are paying as well. And while medicare stays the same (so far) supplemental goes up every year. This is
only my third year on Medicare and the supplemental has gone up from $91 to $122.

And that's no dental or eye. So there's that.

The big thing is prescription dugs. As long as Big Pharma has so much money and influence, that's not going to change. My husband gets two of his drugs from Canada because we either don't have the generic or even the generic is too expensive here.

KWR65

(1,098 posts)
29. He is running to confuse the voters and protect the 1%
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 03:35 PM
Jan 2019

Medicare for all will not be free. Must people would pay a monthly premium, have deductibles and 20% co-pay for health care. Employers would pay $5 per hour up to 40 hours a week for each employee which is cheaper then what they pay now.

elleng

(130,895 posts)
31. Maybe only correct thing he said from your post: important issue - financial security,
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 03:39 PM
Jan 2019

NO DOUBT about that.

Delmette2.0

(4,164 posts)
35. If he runs, he will keep talking about his plan.
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 08:25 PM
Jan 2019

The only one that makes sense and is fair to everyone.

 

WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
37. For some it would be more.
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 08:28 PM
Jan 2019

For some it would be less... or of no cost.

It’s how we must do it. It’s going to be far from free.

Voltaire2

(13,023 posts)
39. It's paid by taxes it's not free.
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 11:50 PM
Jan 2019

Most of the proposals eliminate the assorted premiums copays adjustments etc that are used to mask the appalling individual costs of out corruot for profit system.

It ain’t free.

KitSileya

(4,035 posts)
41. Howard Schultz is running against the Democratic party
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 12:56 AM
Jan 2019

He simply talks about how both sides are bad when it comes to the repubs, but specifically attacks Democratic policies and principles. That means he's far from an independent, he's a republican, period. Doesn't matter what he calls himself.

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