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babylonsister

(171,056 posts)
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 08:40 AM Jan 2019

Democrats And Republicans Finally Agree: The Best Way To Govern Is To Ignore Trump

https://www.politicususa.com/2019/01/30/democrats-republicans-agree-govern-ignore-trump.html

Posted on Wed, Jan 30th, 2019 by Sean Colarossi
Democrats And Republicans Finally Agree: The Best Way To Govern Is To Ignore Trump


As Congress negotiates a deal that would keep the government open past the February 15 deadline, Democrats and Republicans have seemingly reached agreement on at least one thing: Ignoring Donald Trump is the best way to govern the country.

As MSNBC’s Chris Hayes laid out on Wednesday night, after Trump’s border wall tantrum kept the government shut down for over a month, nobody in Washington wants him near future negotiations.

“Donald Trump is now engaged in another battle over his unpopular border wall with an even weaker hand and everyone seems to know it except for one man, the president,” the MSNBC host said. “The increasingly irrelevant and ineffectual president is just about the only person in Washington who does not understand just how badly the shutdown damaged his own position.”





Chris Hayes said:

Donald Trump is now engaged in another battle over his unpopular border wall with an even weaker hand and everyone seems to know it except for one man, the president. Today lawmakers from both parties met for the first time to try to head off another Trump shutdown. And a temporary bill to fund the government runs out 16 days from now and they all seem to be paying as little attention as possible to the president of the United States. Trump has not held a public event in five days, he’s been holed in the White House rage tweeting about whatever he sees on Trump TV on DVR and attacking a former staffer who wrote a tell-all book. Trump did manage to briefly weigh in on the negotiations early this morning … and then everyone kind of just ignored him. … The increasingly irrelevant and ineffectual president is just about the only person in Washington who does not understand just how badly the shutdown damaged his own position. His approval rating is down and a majority of Americans continue to oppose his border wall that, you’ll remember, Mexico was supposed to pay for. There is massive opposition to Trump declaring a national emergency to try to get funding for the wall, which he has flirted with, and even greater opposition to enforcing the nation to endure another shutdown. … Back in November, a poll found Republicans with a 10-point advantage on handling border security. But in the wake of the Trump shutdown, it’s the Democrats who now have a nine-point advantage. I mean think about that: The president of the United States used the full force of his bully pulpit to make an argument to the American people, and he managed to convince them that his opponents are right.


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Democrats And Republicans Finally Agree: The Best Way To Govern Is To Ignore Trump (Original Post) babylonsister Jan 2019 OP
Claire McCaskill is now free to name GOP names Funtatlaguy Jan 2019 #1
mcconell is still full of sh-t and will continue to not bring up popular bills passed in the house mucifer Jan 2019 #2
Can they have another election in the Senate? greymattermom Jan 2019 #3
That would be great. Unfortunately, McConnell has the most $ ProfessorPlum Jan 2019 #5
McConnell is there to do somebody else's bidding. calimary Jan 2019 #13
Yikes, And this is from 2017. pangaia Jan 2019 #15
Republicans thinking ahead? Aussie105 Jan 2019 #4
All it takes to neuter him are 67 Senators and 291 Representatives. It's difficult, but doable. catbyte Jan 2019 #9
That's really the only way...A veto proof majority passage... Wounded Bear Jan 2019 #11
And not just the shutdown... pangaia Jan 2019 #16
I hope he is right Perseus Jan 2019 #6
If only. Try telling Bitchy Mitchy that though. sandensea Jan 2019 #7
Well, Duh Roy Rolling Jan 2019 #8
I don't believe that at all. If kacekwl Jan 2019 #10
YUP.. Why do so many highly intelligent people here not get this? pangaia Jan 2019 #17
Chuckling. Yes, Trump IS a terrible negotiator. PatrickforO Jan 2019 #12
".more deeply convinced each day." ?? pangaia Jan 2019 #18
Indeed. PatrickforO Jan 2019 #19
With you on all that. pangaia Jan 2019 #21
All bullshit.. if republicans really believed this, they would get rid of the fucker. pangaia Jan 2019 #14
so the SOTU bdamomma Jan 2019 #20

Funtatlaguy

(10,870 posts)
1. Claire McCaskill is now free to name GOP names
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 08:44 AM
Jan 2019

that told her privately their true feelings about Trump.
Hope that she does.

mucifer

(23,530 posts)
2. mcconell is still full of sh-t and will continue to not bring up popular bills passed in the house
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 08:58 AM
Jan 2019

treasonous f wad!

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
3. Can they have another election in the Senate?
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 09:02 AM
Jan 2019

Is there a procedure for Republican senators to elect a new leader?

ProfessorPlum

(11,256 posts)
5. That would be great. Unfortunately, McConnell has the most $
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 09:19 AM
Jan 2019

thanks to his in-laws, and so in America that means that he is in charge.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
15. Yikes, And this is from 2017.
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 10:42 AM
Jan 2019

ALL the head republican honchos there to do somebody else's bidding.

COME ON "MEDIA," do your freakin' jobs !!

Aussie105

(5,380 posts)
4. Republicans thinking ahead?
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 09:11 AM
Jan 2019

Are there any republicans in positions of power who can see the damage Trump is doing to the country, and wonder how the party itself can recover credibility once the Apricot Hell-beast is out of the picture?

Or are they happy to go down with the Trump disaster?

It's far too late to ignore Trump. He has too much power, he has too much hate, he has too much destructiveness in his mind to be ignored.

catbyte

(34,373 posts)
9. All it takes to neuter him are 67 Senators and 291 Representatives. It's difficult, but doable.
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 09:50 AM
Jan 2019

Last edited Thu Jan 31, 2019, 10:46 AM - Edit history (1)

Even republicans realize what a train wreck the government shutdown that thing in the White House caused was. And all over a stupid, meaningless wall that Mexico was supposed to pay for. 2020 is coming up fast, and they know it.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
16. And not just the shutdown...
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 10:46 AM
Jan 2019

The ongoing, accelerating destruction of American democracy, infrastructure, financial system, courts, and with it civilization as we know it due to ignoring global warming.. and on and on...




 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
6. I hope he is right
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 09:24 AM
Jan 2019

The media needs to ignore him as well, he needs to become a bad memory, even while in office, he must be reduced to his worm self and just let him slither on his own making sure he doesn't create more chaos, closely watched to make sure he stops giving Russia USA secret information, then when his term is done, he needs to indicted and put in jail.

But the media needs to stop trying to analyze his stupidity. Yesterday I saw a video of CNN with Alisyn Camerota, and I am puzzled why CNN put a guy with her, she was doing great on her own, anyway, one of the guests made the comment that "pretty much the intelligence heads had said to not believe the orange buffoon, that he was lying", and the guy went on to defend that it was up for interpretation, they didn't say that...well, they did!

IGNORE the orange buffoon, he does not deserve to be noticed.

sandensea

(21,624 posts)
7. If only. Try telling Bitchy Mitchy that though.
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 09:26 AM
Jan 2019

Hell, he's cashing in personally from the Cheeto/Putin relationship.

Roy Rolling

(6,911 posts)
8. Well, Duh
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 09:43 AM
Jan 2019

Democrats all along have been trying to ignore Trump, but being polite enough to hear him out for two years.

No more.

Now that Democrats control the House, they should go full speed ahead with legislation. Fu*k Trump if he gets in the way, he will be ignored.

The best defense against Trump is a vigorous offense of Democratic legislation. And while Democrats are busy working on good legislation, who has time to respond to a clown on TV?

kacekwl

(7,016 posts)
10. I don't believe that at all. If
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 10:04 AM
Jan 2019

that was the case there would not have been a shutdown and most important trump would have been impeached long ago. There are many who will follow this criminal for whatever reason. The Republican leadership is fully supportive of trump most certainly because they are involved in this Russian coup.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
17. YUP.. Why do so many highly intelligent people here not get this?
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 10:48 AM
Jan 2019


We need to stop bumping into the trees and see the forest. IT'S ON FIRE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PatrickforO

(14,570 posts)
12. Chuckling. Yes, Trump IS a terrible negotiator.
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 10:29 AM
Jan 2019

I'm also more deeply convinced each day that he is a traitor, and that his corrupt administration is a corrosive acid eating away at the very fabric of this nation.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
18. ".more deeply convinced each day." ??
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 10:49 AM
Jan 2019

Come on patrick...

we all knew this from before the election...


PatrickforO

(14,570 posts)
19. Indeed.
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 02:23 PM
Jan 2019

But the evidence builds. What I was referring to are the new outrages each day. I mean, there's no 'stabilization' with this guy. Reagan and the Bushes were terrible, but you knew what lines they wouldn't cross. Trump just doesn't have any compass at all, let alone a moral one.

On the old tall ships, the cannons were quite heavy, some weighing a ton or more. They were always very careful to batten them down really tightly in case of a storm, because if one got loose and rolled around the deck it could destroy all kinds of things and actually do irreparable damage to the ship, not to mention the carnage among crew members.

Trump is that loose cannon, careening across our polity and doing horrible damage to our institutions, our environment, our sense of trust - our whole social fabric.

He's like a fucking cancer cell spreading all over the place.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
14. All bullshit.. if republicans really believed this, they would get rid of the fucker.
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 10:34 AM
Jan 2019



They could stop this fascist take-over in a New York minute, if they cared...

bdamomma

(63,836 posts)
20. so the SOTU
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 02:26 PM
Jan 2019

is on Tuesday are they not showing up for that liar fest.

My TV will be off, and I will be here.

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