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kpete

(71,963 posts)
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 11:07 AM Jan 2019

SALON: Mueller's next indictment will tie together Russians, WikiLeaks & top of the Trump campaign

Mueller closes the circle of Russian collusion on Trump
The next indictment will tie together the Russians, WikiLeaks, and the top of the Trump campaign



Mueller’s next indictment will tie together the Russians, WikiLeaks and the top of the Trump campaign
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The next arrest and indictment you’re going to see from Mueller will be his biggest yet. One morning in the not too distant future, he’s going to sweep up everyone remaining who was associated with using the Democratic Party emails stolen by the Russians. Julian Assange will be indicted. So will Donald Trump Jr., Jared Kushner. Roger Stone will probably face a superseding indictment along with the others for defrauding the United States by conspiring with WikiLeaks and the Russian intelligence service, the GRU, to steal Democratic Party campaign documents and use them to interfere with the American presidential election of 2016, the same charge he made against the Russians. Mueller will probably follow Justice Department guidelines and the example set by Special Prosecutor Leon Jaworski in Watergate. He will probably not indict the president, but he will name him as an unindicted co-conspirator, just as Richard Nixon was in Watergate.

It’s going to be a jaw-dropping arrest and indictment because it has to be. Mueller can no longer issue indictments piecemeal and get guilty pleas or convictions one by one. This time, he must lay out a case that Trump and his campaign officials committed crimes that are so egregious, it will be impossible for the congress to fail to protect him from being fired. If Mueller were to indict Kushner alone, or Trump Jr. alone, it would be too easy for Trump to feign outrage and fire him. That’s why Mueller’s next move will be his last, and it will be the big one, sweeping up everyone who is left at once.

Mueller’s indictment of the Republican bad boy and former Trump political adviser Roger Stone was less of an allegation that Stone committed crimes like lying to the congress and tampering with a witness, than it was the exercise of an elaborate search warrant for all of Stone’s houses and offices. Mueller wanted Stone’s electronic devices, because he needs to confirm what he already knows about Stone’s connections to WikiLeaks. He gained this knowledge from the National Security Agency and the CIA, both of which have been involved in the Russia investigation in the background.


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MUCH MORE:
https://www.salon.com/2019/01/30/mueller-closes-the-circle-of-russian-collusion-on-trump/#.XFLkIIDV6-c.twitter
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/01/muellers-next-indictment-will-tie-together-russians-wikileaks-top-trump-campaign/
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SALON: Mueller's next indictment will tie together Russians, WikiLeaks & top of the Trump campaign (Original Post) kpete Jan 2019 OP
One morning in the not to distant future? edhopper Jan 2019 #1
At present I consider this and similar articles pure speculation. Nothing more. olegramps Jan 2019 #16
I would love for a big sweeping set of arrests NewJeffCT Jan 2019 #2
What is the basis of this article? jcgoldie Jan 2019 #3
It is a projection of what might happen based on the known facts Jarqui Jan 2019 #6
Journalists seldom name their sources. SergeStorms Jan 2019 #9
right jcgoldie Jan 2019 #11
3 steps to trump's downfall. 1. Prove a crime. 2. Prove which Russians did it. 3. Show conspiracy NightWatcher Jan 2019 #4
Let it be! And soon! NRaleighLiberal Jan 2019 #5
Man ouija Jan 2019 #7
Amen! calimary Jan 2019 #24
As always, interesting comments. What a wonderful day it would be seeing Jr. and Jared perp walked. Pepsidog Jan 2019 #8
And have them held without bail Mr.Bill Jan 2019 #23
Eh, you must mean "without bail." n/t Eyeball_Kid Feb 2019 #26
Yes, thank you. n/t Mr.Bill Feb 2019 #29
This better pan out... BlueJac Jan 2019 #10
Howzabout the morning of Trump's SOTU address? DemoTex Jan 2019 #12
THAT ... would be a beautiful thing! n/t Pobeka Jan 2019 #13
Sure would be purdy... Blue Owl Jan 2019 #14
Mueller's climbing a tree of conspiracy... B Stieg Jan 2019 #15
Will Mueller Reveal What Goods Putin Is Holding Over Trump's Head? DallasNE Jan 2019 #17
"The next indictment will tie together the Russians, WikiLeaks, and the top of the Trump campaign" LudwigPastorius Jan 2019 #18
A Read Worth Everyone's Time (n/t) corbettkroehler Jan 2019 #19
Well after following kpete for years on this site and others. I feel he is right this time as well. usaf-vet Jan 2019 #20
May it be so cp Jan 2019 #21
Holy merde! Mme. Defarge Jan 2019 #22
I'll believe it when I see it. This story seems to be big on speculation, hughee99 Feb 2019 #25
Here's hoping to God that Greenwald gets netted in this roundup, too Blue_Tires Feb 2019 #27
K&R Scurrilous Feb 2019 #28
Mueller stated in his July Russian hacking indictment that there were American co-conspirators wishstar Feb 2019 #30
Missing, as usual, is one important name that is key to justice being served: Pence Stinky The Clown Feb 2019 #31
Mueller just asked the judge rusty fender Feb 2019 #32
Hurry up mueller! triron Feb 2019 #33
kick for visibility triron Feb 2019 #34

edhopper

(33,483 posts)
1. One morning in the not to distant future?
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 11:12 AM
Jan 2019

Kinda vague, what's next? "I say to you that before this generation passes"?

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
2. I would love for a big sweeping set of arrests
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 11:13 AM
Jan 2019

like out of a movie or TV show - would be appropriate for Donny who gets his stories about duct taped women from the movies.

jcgoldie

(11,613 posts)
3. What is the basis of this article?
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 11:19 AM
Jan 2019

Conjecture? I skimmed it and can't see any reference to sources.

Jarqui

(10,122 posts)
6. It is a projection of what might happen based on the known facts
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 11:44 AM
Jan 2019

They're not completely pulling it out of thin air

Some things they establish - like there is significantly more to come.

So it is a mix of reason from the facts and from that, conjecture on where it will go

SergeStorms

(19,186 posts)
9. Journalists seldom name their sources.
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 12:06 PM
Jan 2019

Even "someone who's familiar with the Mueller investigation" would be too vague for print, and besides, no one connected with the Mueller investigation tips off reporters (or at least would never be referred to as a "deep background" tipster).

Mueller runs a very tight ship. Leaks are not tolerated, unlike the Trump administration.

jcgoldie

(11,613 posts)
11. right
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 12:22 PM
Jan 2019

I understand that he's not going to name sources, but my point is there doesn't seem to be any, just conjecture.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
4. 3 steps to trump's downfall. 1. Prove a crime. 2. Prove which Russians did it. 3. Show conspiracy
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 11:24 AM
Jan 2019

between said Russians from steps 1 and 2 and members of trump administration.

Bonus: any and all obstruction issues will reinforce the link between trumpers and Russians (step 3).

Many have known this is how you prosecute things like RICO cases, but it shouldn't be reported as gospel until it happens.

Since we've already done steps 1&2, we are only assuming step 3 is pending.

That said, I hope something happens this Friday, but a birdie mentioned mid February.

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
8. As always, interesting comments. What a wonderful day it would be seeing Jr. and Jared perp walked.
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 12:04 PM
Jan 2019

Being the coward he is, Trump will literally shit his pants.

Mr.Bill

(24,243 posts)
23. And have them held without bail
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 02:07 PM
Jan 2019

Last edited Fri Feb 1, 2019, 03:11 PM - Edit history (1)

because they are the very definition of a flight risk.

B Stieg

(2,410 posts)
15. Mueller's climbing a tree of conspiracy...
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 12:41 PM
Jan 2019

and he's almost reached the top!

Stay tuned, Mr. Prezident*.

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
17. Will Mueller Reveal What Goods Putin Is Holding Over Trump's Head?
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 01:07 PM
Jan 2019

I certainly hope so.

That would open the door for Mueller to charge Trump by name for very high crimes. But that is a lot to expect, especially in a single move so I am looking for two more rounds of indictments rather than a single, sweeping indictment Salon projects.

usaf-vet

(6,163 posts)
20. Well after following kpete for years on this site and others. I feel he is right this time as well.
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 01:41 PM
Jan 2019

Here is hoping it happen soon. The country needs to cleansed of they traitors.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
25. I'll believe it when I see it. This story seems to be big on speculation,
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 10:53 AM
Feb 2019

With a predetermined outline of what the final outcome will be (Mueller nails Trump) and then fills in the pieces of what needs to happen to make that work. It’s laid out like a news story, but it’s basically an opinion piece, which is salon in a nutshell.

wishstar

(5,268 posts)
30. Mueller stated in his July Russian hacking indictment that there were American co-conspirators
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 03:21 PM
Feb 2019

so we can expect a Mueller indictment including all the Trump campaign conspirators in the hacking and Wikileaks releases. Unfortunately though it will probably take several more months for Mueller's team to wrap it all up since there are outstanding subpoenas and interviews left, plus sifting through the trove of Stone material.

Stinky The Clown

(67,762 posts)
31. Missing, as usual, is one important name that is key to justice being served: Pence
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 03:36 PM
Feb 2019

I can imagine that if T were named an unindicted co conspiritor the climate for the GOP is such they would do a Nixon.

 

rusty fender

(3,428 posts)
32. Mueller just asked the judge
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 04:13 PM
Feb 2019

in the Stone case for more time to bring the case to trial because of the voluminous material that was seized last Friday.

If the judge grants Mueller more time, assuming that Stone waives his right to a speedy trial, it could take months before the Stone case is resolved.

Of course, Stone could decide to cooperate with Mueller which would speed things up considerably.

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