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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAre there any rockhounds here? Or a rock/gem/mineral/gold diggers forum on DU? nt
2naSalit
(86,579 posts)the Rockies.
GemDigger
(4,305 posts)I used to live in your county for over a decade. Lots of good rockhounding spots there.
GemDigger
(4,305 posts)2naSalit
(86,579 posts)bears. I'm really used to being around them but it's nice to have others when out in the out there.
When it warms up, I'd be into it.
GemDigger
(4,305 posts)The three of us are in different chunks of the state but I am sure we can find something to dig for in the middle of us.
2naSalit
(86,579 posts)You and I probably aren't more than an hour apart, I'm two counties east of you. Not sure where our other compadre is located but we could figure something out.
MontanaMama
(23,313 posts)Happy to meet wherever works for the group. Treasures await!
Salit, I read your note about bears above...speaking of, I just spoke to one of our local biologists who tracks bears in my neighborhood and he told me about two who have yet to go to sleep this winter! He knows I feed birds this time of year and he advised me to take my feeders in at night so as not to draw them into the yard. Weird, huh?
Maru Kitteh
(28,340 posts)Everytime we go to the park and surrounding areas I'm forever picking up exciting specimens and boring my family.
MontanaMama
(23,313 posts)Im forever hauling rocks home in my pockets, in my glove compartment, in my h2o bottle...my prize was a sizable piece of petrified wood I picked up south of Miles City.
GemDigger
(4,305 posts)but will be all the rocks slamming around the vehicle that hits me in the head.
Maru Kitteh
(28,340 posts)My husband is very accomodating of the many prizes I have displayed on end tables and shelves all over the house.
GemDigger
(4,305 posts)My book case doesn't hold books, but does a fantastic job for my rocks. End tables, shelves, window sills, next to the TV, on the desk, in my room, nothing but rocks.
GemDigger
(4,305 posts)MontanaMama
(23,313 posts)When my family is out on the lake and the water is rough, I have them drop me off on an island...like Wild Horse or Bird island. I poke around the shores and shallows looking for treasures.
trueblue2007
(17,217 posts)he also likes to do goldmining at Cape Disappointment in Oregon. He has tons of nuggets
GemDigger
(4,305 posts)And if I find enough flakes (but not enough to sell) I want to use them in a piece of artwork like a tree made of gold flakes on a black background. I have been looking for a metal detector and maybe, just maybe that is when I will find my nuggets.
MontanaMama
(23,313 posts)I am an avid agate collector. I have pounds and pounds of them waiting to be tumbled. I can only tumble rocks when the weather is warm enough to use the hose outside for rinsing them in between tumbles. I did pan for garnets over by Helena and filled a small bottle full of them...that was SO much fun. Id love to know more about all of it and get out more than I do. Im glad you started this thread.
GemDigger
(4,305 posts)I have a Vibratec polisher and it isn't as good as a tumbler. I usually have empty buckets in the car in case I decide to grab some gold dirt/sapphire gravel and bring it home to putz with at home.
That is three of us in this state. We should plan a dig together. For something, anything.
MontanaMama
(23,313 posts)My goodness, how often do you move, GD? I use a Thumlers Tumbler and I really like it. Im still learning in terms of what I should and shouldnt tumble together. I sometimes have to tumble batches more than once with a particular grit to get the best results. I like to sit on the gravel beaches in Oregon and dig for agates with nothing in my ears but the ocean. I can do it for hours. Isnt it nice to talk about something other than you know who?
GemDigger
(4,305 posts)so we went bigger. Needed a garage with a hose close by and the sun shining in the door.
GemDigger
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I destroyed a gorgeous piece in my tumbler (calling it a tumbler because calling it a vibrator just sounds too hinky).
Isnt it nice to talk about something other than you know who?Amen to that!
2naSalit
(86,579 posts)I don't have any lapidary tools or tumblers but I might look into that since I don't see a time when I would stop collecting rocks that would look good tumbled.
Moving always requires an apology for the three boxes of rocks but that's what I have. And I got rid of all but three double milk crates of books when I liquidated years ago. I don't have much stuff now but I always seem to be gathering more stuff. But I never seem to leave the rocks behind!
csziggy
(34,136 posts)For birders, there is a site, birdingpals.com that lets bird watchers connect with people all over the world. My husband and I are going to Britain next fall and I plan to contact some birders on that site for advice on places to go and maybe to hook up with them for some birdwatching.
My sister hunts fossils and she has contacts all over Florida and through them all over the US so she gets access to private sites and can get help excavating large fossil finds.
I'd be surprised if there were not groups like that for rock hounds (is that the right term? If not, sorry).
GemDigger
(4,305 posts)but I have not checked into groups on the net. Great idea! Yes rock hounds is the term.
2naSalit
(86,579 posts)on the river banks, I have pounds and pounds too but I don't have a tumbler. I kind of like them in raw form.
GemDigger
(4,305 posts)I have a piece of petrified wood that is simply stunning. Crystals, garnets, more wood, serpentine, calcite, gold, sapphires, amethyst I am a junkie. A gem/mineral/dirt junkie.
2naSalit
(86,579 posts)but got really into it when I moved to Idaho and then got into college there. I hung out with the geology students and profs, I was a late starter so was the same age as many of the faculty, and got to go on all the field trips and I learned a lot... and it was not my major.
I have a rock collection from lots of places, some cool crystals and lots of volcanic remnants that I just like even though they aren't gems. When I lived in your county, I was in the obsidian zone so I kind of got burned out on that stuff. It's why the sand is black and you soldn't go barefoot and your tires don't last as long.
If it's a cool rock, I'll pick it up and ponder it for a spell and decide about whether its' a "leaverite" or not.
GemDigger
(4,305 posts)except we used the alphabet and the subject was A. I decided that I was going to do agates and went to the river. I was so focused on "agates" that I picked up a rock and chucked it while thinking to myself that I am here for agates. Somewhere, some direction, onto the river bank, into the river, who knows. I got home and slammed my head onto my desk when I realized that in my blinders looking for agates I threw away a stunning piece of industrial corundum. 3 big crystals fused together. So I went back to the river the next day and went over that stretch of rocks foot by foot and then inch by inch. For 7 hours I combed that section. There were a few fisherman around and they kept looking at me like I was some kind of nut until I explained to them that I just HAD too find this rock I chucked. I am still beating myself up.
2naSalit
(86,579 posts)I learned about the agates when I relocated into this area a few years ago, a roommate had some that would make a a real rockhound envious enough to go out and start combing the gravel bars. And I have a few nice pieces. I have only thrown back a nice piece once, not gonna talk about it...
MontanaMama
(23,313 posts)I havent really looked for them on this side of the divide. Guess I need to get busy.
2naSalit
(86,579 posts)I have a few that are rather hefty, like around a half pound in weight. There is a wild combination of fossils, petrified wood, volcanic remnants and agates. It's like someone dumped out all the pieces of geologic history and tumbled them down the river, it's amazing.
I want to check out Yolo sometime, That sounds like a cool place to investigate.
MontanaMama
(23,313 posts)I live close to a big rushing creek whose headwaters are in a wilderness area...I wonder if that would be good? Maybe the Blackfoot would be a good option too. Im just a couple miles from it. Exciting to think about.
Where is Yolo? Im not familiar with it.
2naSalit
(86,579 posts)wilderness area too. I haven't explored much outside the Hebgen Basin, where I lived for over a decade, so I know that are really well but not much rock hounding, mostly wild flowers and wild animals and too many humans, now.
Yolo is about half an hour south of Missoula, where US93 and US12 split before you get to Florence. That's where the Montana blue sapphires come from. And it's on the Bitterroot. Heck, I've been past there a bunch of times and didn't realize it!
MontanaMama
(23,313 posts)Where Lewis and Clark went through? It makes sense that thered be sapphires there. Maybe Rock Creek too...west of Missoula. You really have me thinking!
2naSalit
(86,579 posts)2naSalit
(86,579 posts)Yogo! Geeze.
Yogo sapphires. Judith Basin? Rock Creek area?
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1&lei=4HJUXN70FYDL0PEPnrCIyAE&q=how%20to%20find%20yogo%20sapphires&ved=2ahUKEwitx8ev-ZrgAhUUCjQIHYYkDhcQsKwBKAJ6BAgCEAM&biw=1366&bih=635#kpvalbx=1
Yolo... Thanks for catching that!
MontanaMama
(23,313 posts)I was googling Lolo, YOLO and Yogo myself to see what I was missing! However, I think you are exactly correct, Yogo sapphires would be in a Rock Creek which would flow out of the Sapphire mountains. Coincidentally, just across those mountains as the crow flies would be Lolo... so I was confused. Anyway, there is a dam way up high on Rock Creek that is being eyed for removal. Would it be something to pick those creek beds after the mine comes out? Who knows what treasures are being held back!
2naSalit
(86,579 posts)Is any of it on FS land? I know how to get permits.
What I like about the river banks is that we have right of way to go there as public land.
MontanaMama
(23,313 posts)Whether it is FS or BLM ets I don't know but I can find out. Stay tuned on that.
2naSalit
(86,579 posts)MontanaMama
(23,313 posts)there is lots of FS land along Rock Creek particularly the west side. Lots of public access in that area - blue ribbon fly fishing is the main draw.
GemDigger
(4,305 posts)if they are muddying the water upstream from someone fishing. I imagine that pissing off a fisherman can ruin a good day.
DJ just bought me this
https://historicalmapsonline.com/product/montana-gold-gems-1873
set of maps. I will get back to you.
2naSalit
(86,579 posts)have to get a copy of that for myself.
GemDigger
(4,305 posts)MontanaMama
(23,313 posts)something I need to have in my possession. Thanks GD.
GemDigger
(4,305 posts)Every other time of the year is good hunting.
2naSalit
(86,579 posts)post runoff hounding along the river. The load bed shift always rewards. Montana is new territory for me regarding rock hounding. Most of my exploits have been in SoCal, NH, WI and Idaho. Now that I have migrated away from the YNP zone, I'm looking forward to going deeper into Montana. I spent decades driving across this state, I always wanted to live here to explore everything. Now that I have retired, I am finding i can do more of what I have always wanted to do, within reason.
GemDigger
(4,305 posts)the morning after I rescued a house bunny. I thought it was a sign and I followed it. The last time I went back to visit, my cousin had just had an amazing 300 foot rock wall built. There were a lot of leftover pieces and I would go through them and then ship them here. My cousin said I should be careful because he charges by the ton. Shipping rocks is costly.
As the decades caught up with me I am not as ballzy as I used to be. There was a time I would go into bear country solo and think nothing of it. Now, not so ballzy. Then, I would pick up a rock that was half my weight (I am tiny) and now, not so ballzy on that either. I would go solo on logging/fire roads that my car should not have been on, now I would rather have company.
I was taken to an old feldspar mine to look for tourmaline and garnet when I was about ten and that was it for me when I found some nice pieces there. Seems like it was somewhere in the center of the state.
I also have been out a little in Wyoming but haven't spent much time there.
The Rockies have so much to offer for rockhounds having been such a geologically active place.
I used to go out alone all the time down in the Hebgen area, after my first "got too close to a bear" event I started carrying bear spray, only to end up being an outreach and ed person for local federal agencies for a short spell. It wouldn't look good if I got nailed by a bear after that.
I still have my backwoods Toyota, needs a repair before I go out in the sticks with it again but I don't like to go out alone anymore either... I used to take a lot of risks out there too. Now it kind of gives me the heebie jeebies. Kind of like I've used up most of my lucky breaks or something.
RockRaven
(14,966 posts)"I guess I just miss my friend."
GemDigger
(4,305 posts)But one more time to remind myself how good of a movie that was.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)long time DUer. He's a rockhound.
He'll probably pop into this thread eventually.
Sid
GemDigger
(4,305 posts)2naSalit
(86,579 posts)I always wondered about his username but never felt confident to ask. I suspected it might have something to do with 3M because he's in Minnesota.
I'd rather that it's indicative of his love for rockhounding.
MontanaMama
(23,313 posts)as maybe a geologist or something similar.
MineralMan
(146,288 posts)to collectors. I was one of the first internet mineral dealers. I had been interested in minerals and rocks since childhood, and finally started my own collection in the 1990s. The business grew out of my acquiring of specimens for that collection, which grew to have over 1500 mineral species in it at one point.
I never really was a rockhound, though. I acquired specimens by buying them. I gave myself the equivalent of a Master's degree in mineralogy through reading, study, and working with the collection. Once I started selling specimens, I had customers from all over the world. It was a fascinating business to be in, and involved a lot of travel to major mineral shows to find specimens to sell.
However, I'm a fickle person when it comes to my interests. When too many others began selling specimens on the internet, my business began to falter, due to a shortage of materials to purchase at decent prices that allowed for a small profit. So, in 2007, I auctioned off all my remaining stock, along with my entire collection, to a competing internet mineral dealer. Then, I moved on to other interests. I have just one specimen remaining - a 200 lb. pegmatite specimen that sits on a tall octagonal table in my living room. It's a reminder of that phase of my life.
I remain interested in mineralogy, though, and will be glad to drop into a DU group on the subject, if one is started.
Note: There is a mineral dealer on the internet, doing business as MineralMan. That isn't me. His business began after I was already out of that business. That has caused a little confusion, at times. My business was called Ososoft Mineral Connection.
GemDigger
(4,305 posts)How exciting that had to have been. I have found most of my pieces except for a few that I bought at the Gem & Mineral show because I knew I would never be able to get there to find them myself, and a few pieces that were given to me.
I have just one specimen remaining - a 200 lb. pegmatite specimen that sits on a tall octagonal table in my living room.
There are some pieces that only belong in the house and that would be one of them. Yowza that is a big piece!
I started taking in my better pieces when a person at the G&M club had several huge (huge) stunning pieces outside his home in the middle of nowhere. He went rockhounding one day and came back and his whole outside collection was gone. I don't think he ever found out who did it but he knows they needed a tow truck or something similar to get them off the ground.
912gdm
(959 posts)Kinda wish we could have our own topic. Work on that OP.
Ya got any questions, or just feeling out for fellow hobbyists?
GemDigger
(4,305 posts)sometimes I have questions.
912gdm
(959 posts)id be for it
GemDigger
(4,305 posts)Wawannabe
(5,657 posts)world wide wally
(21,742 posts)We are in Colorado and he has three active claims. Amazonite is his staple, but he also digs aquamarine, and topaz. He has a claim on a gold mine, but that is an expensive undertaking. He is in Quartzite or Tuscon right now making contacts with people from all over. The world to trade stuff with them.
Not a bad gig.
GemDigger
(4,305 posts)Not a bad gig at all.
TlalocW
(15,381 posts)TlalocW
GemDigger
(4,305 posts)Wawannabe
(5,657 posts)I started with Arrowheads, have a large collection. Many gems from MT and now live in WA. This summer I visited AK. Ran a sluice box on a creek and have about 10 lbs of black sand to get through. Waiting for warmer weather. I live near a gold bearing creek and have been there several times but no luck yet. I want to go to Cape Disappointment too!
When I move the rocks are the most grumbled about. I also do mosaic tile. The tile and the rocks together -omg!
I found a wonderful heart shaped, red rock out of a creek in MT. People love it - no pun intended. Also, a arrowhead shaped rock that is uncanny. It is large and NOT an arrowhead but as a collector and KC Chiefs fan it is one of my prize rocks!
Rock on!!!!
GemDigger
(4,305 posts)by chance almost on the top of a mountain in the middle of the woods. I had a lady who was well knowledged in Native American artifacts and when she saw it she said omg, OMG!! What you have is a hide scraper and she slapped her fingers on it and shown me how it was held. She was pretty sure it came from the Clovis people.
Tile and rocks together....My imagination is going wild on that.
PCIntern
(25,541 posts)Gold-digger club all by herself
GemDigger
(4,305 posts)One person on a website went off on my for my name. Called me a gold digger looking for a rich catch. I had to clarify that I prefer to dig for my own gold and minerals.
ansible
(1,718 posts)There are only a few places left where you can pan for gold legally. I live near one, an hour away is Briceburg along the Merced River but there isn't a lot of gold here anymore. Most of the gold has already been taken.
GemDigger
(4,305 posts)The restrictions are basically for dredging and machinery in most areas. There are a few areas though that will nail you for a shovel and gold pan.
backtoblue
(11,343 posts)We go quartz digging about twice a year.
I like the idea of a rock/gem digging group! Maybe post this in Ask the Admin s .
GemDigger
(4,305 posts)ripcord
(5,372 posts)Then I decided I needed to do something with those rocks so I got into making spheres.
cbdo2007
(9,213 posts)ripcord
(5,372 posts)GemDigger
(4,305 posts)If you have more pics, share them all.
MontanaMama
(23,313 posts)This looks like something I need. Oh my.
GemDigger
(4,305 posts)He sent me a text back "So is it a metal detector, rock saw, lapidary machine or a sphere maker you want?" I sent a text back "All of it!"
MontanaMama
(23,313 posts)thought he would be enthused about it since he likes that show on TV "Diggers". I even got him the pinpoint detector. He's kind of excited but not what I'd hoped. Mama may have to "borrow" his gear. That was off topic...So this sphere maker sounds fabulous, right?
GemDigger
(4,305 posts)reclaim it! "Diggers" is what finally got my son into it. When he mentioned he wanted to go mining my response was "What took you so long?" His response was "I never watched Diggers before" then he offered to buy me one .Oh happy day!!
GemDigger
(4,305 posts)Thanks for sharing it.
cbdo2007
(9,213 posts)Too cold to go outside though. Around here I just find fossils, but have been to AR for quartz digs, IL for geodes, and MN for agates on various rock hunting trips.
GemDigger
(4,305 posts)Have you busted the geodes?
cbdo2007
(9,213 posts)have another few hundred pounds in my garage that I sit and open occasionally or sell at garage sales to the neighborhood kids for 25 cents each
Mostly just quartz inside but have found oil, water, pyrite, calcite, smoky quartz, and amethyst in some as well.
Wawannabe
(5,657 posts)I have been there once. No luck but great fun.
DFW
(54,370 posts)No time for gold digging, although we did the tourist thing in Fairbanks in 2015 when we were there.
But I had the privilege of knowing a few Chinese and Afghan mineral dealers who used to pass through the Düsseldorf airport on the way to expos here in Europe, and I sometimes got first shot at some incredible flourites (from China) and Aquamarines and tourmalines from Pakistan and Afghanistan. This goes back a few decades. I can't afford the prices they ask for that stuff nowadays.
There was a rock shop in Provincetown, Mass. about 15 years back, and it had a huge (12 inches, I think) tourmaline crystal in the window. I must have passed by it 12 years in a row thinking it was black. One day, when the sun was setting just right, a ray fell on the tourmaline as I was passing by, and I noticed to my astonishment that it was a GREEN tourmaline crystal. Thinking I could never afford it, I went in and asked the price. The owner was surprised, said I was the first person that had asked about that piece in a decade. He told me he had bought it from a major dealer in Minas Gerais in Brazil ages ago, and if I wanted it for 7% more than he had paid for it, I was welcome to it. I couldn't say "yes" fast enough!
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I also got first shot at some amazing pyrite crystals from the Navajún mine near Zaragoza in Spain. This is also going back 25 years. Who knows what they cost now?
Anyway, I have always been fascinated by nature's artistry.
GemDigger
(4,305 posts)I lucked out once. The Gem & Mineral show I helped at had an emerald ring I wanted and admired but could not afford what he wanted for it. Every year for 5 years I went to the same booth and tried on the same ring. Finally, on year 6, he let me wear it for the day and when I returned it to the gentleman he asked me what I would pay for it. I told him that there was no way I could come close to what he wanted for it. He then told me that as long as he has had that ring that my finger is the only one it fit and how much would you give me for it? I told him I only had $50 on me and that wouldn't even pay for the setting, never mind the emerald. Long story short, he sold a $400 dollar ring to me for $25. Jackpot!
momto3
(662 posts)Lots of native emeralds, rubies, sapphires and garnets. Also good clear and smokey quart specimens. I am itching to go out west and try to find something new.
GemDigger
(4,305 posts)Have you ever had any of the gems cut? I have a vial of raw sapphires but never had any of them cut.
MLAA
(17,288 posts)Maybe you guys need to plan a road trip out here next year 😉
GemDigger
(4,305 posts)We have several shows around here, some of them small and some of them not so small, but none of them compare to the Tucson show. I would have to be dragged out of there by my hair because I would not be leaving willingly.
MLAA
(17,288 posts)You just might decide to stay in Tucsonfor the whole winter...a perfect 70 degrees and sunny day today 😉
GemDigger
(4,305 posts)Tikki
(14,557 posts)The Tikkis
GemDigger
(4,305 posts)mickswalkabout41
(145 posts)Own a biz that sells them too
RobinA
(9,888 posts)I was born a rock collector for some unfathomable reason, but my misfortune was to be born in SE Pa. Shale, shale, and more shale. I can't even find an arrowhead in my creek! I do collect when I am somewhere...else. Got some nice stuff (to me, anything is a step up) when we visited Lake Superior. Came home with a suitcase full of rocks when we visited Yellowstone. No, I didn't take them from any park. I also collect beach stones and do have a tumbler. Been tumbling since I was about 10.
GemDigger
(4,305 posts)me smile. Always look down is my motto.
rusty fender
(3,428 posts)Just in my yard Ive found tons of amazing fossils, basaltic rocks, volcanic rocks.
I havent found agates or gems.
I found an arrowhead when I was a kid, but have since lost it.
Even plain, old rocks interest me because they are all links to our billion year journey as a planet
GemDigger
(4,305 posts)I have a friend in NM I plan on visiting next year and I told her to be prepared to dig up the state.
rusty fender
(3,428 posts)what you can find just on the surface! Arroyos here also are very good for finding fossils because, in essence, nature has already done the digging.
I would share pics of my findings, but I dont know how to post pics on DU using my IPad
GemDigger
(4,305 posts)I would have the cleanest, rockless / pebbleless / fossilless yard in the county if my yard gave up treasures.
rusty fender
(3,428 posts)I live in the country but even our cities are pretty much in the country
912gdm
(959 posts)GemDigger
(4,305 posts)No response yet.