Hey, I have a GREAT idea!

[EffieBlack]

If Democrats feel they must circle the wagons around an embattled Democratic elected official, and fight like hell for him despite his flaws because any Democrat is better than any Republican, why don't they kick out the governor with the proven, documented, admitted racist past who has shown himself to be completely incapable of handling himself in a crisis and then circle the wagons around the black Lieutenant Governor with a squeaky clean history marred only by one unproven, uncorroborated, highly suspicious allegation against him?

I mean, if we're going to pick one of the two to fight for, why not, this time, pick the black guy, protect him, defend him and fight like hell for him?

I think this is a great plan.

Deal?

[unblock]

1. Indeed, the strategy matters.

It does make a difference if the replacement is another democrat or a republican; if it's a safe state/district or not, etc.

That's not to condone improper behavior, ever; but choosing the punishment and timing is necessary to avoid just making the problem worse in practice.

[NanceGreggs]

2. It IS a great idea.

[Leith]

3. That sounds like a terrific idea

Fairfax is worth fighting for.

As for Northam, I'll paraphrase: the person can take himself out of the rethug party, but you can't take the rethug out of the person.

[mcar]

4. Works for me

[Gothmog]

5. This is a great plan

[sheshe2]

6. Deal me in!

[2naSalit]

7. What I was thinking...nt

[Iggo]

8. Deal.

[MLAA]

9. I'm with you on this plan.

No room for racists, repugs or dems. Let alone one so out of touch his wife has to tell him it is inappropriate to moonwalk during his press conference changing his story from an apology to it wasn’t me.

[ProudLib72]

10. And here I thought Fairfax had already replaced Northam

Why the hell is it taking so damned long?

[EffieBlack]

11. Because Northam's pulling a Kavanaugh and trying to barrel his way through it

I suspect he also is hoping to smear Justin Fairfax and sow enough doubt in people that they'll back off of forcing Northam out.

[sellitman]

12. This pasty old white guy is in total agreement.

[yonder]

13. As is this pasty old guy too.

[TygrBright]

14. All in for this! n/t

[BBG]

15. Effin A, EffieBlack

Would sorta help that wheel of karma to come around. I like it!

[pnwmom]

16. I'm with you, Effie. They've had a year to dig up any dirt they could find on Fairfax

and they couldn't come up with anything.. And we know they were trying.

He's the one we should be supporting now, not Northam.

[EffieBlack]

21. Yup

I mean, since we now think it's fine to tolerate, excuse and forgive bad behavior in our elected officials as long as they're Democrat if we want to keep Republicans at bay, why not stand by the black guy accused of something that hasn't been proven at all rather than the guy who admitted to wearing blackface and who, at least until the other day, thought he had hung out at parties with people dressed in KKK robes while he wore said blackface?

[Empowerer]

17. That is a great idea, Eff

But you know as sure as day follows night, when the time comes to step up for the swarthy young Justin, folks will suddenly demand to jump off the Redemption Express and pivot back to "So what if there's no proof. The allegation is enough! We have too much riding on this. We can't afford to take a chance with a flawed politician! We can't lower our standards. If we let him get away with it, the Republicans will be all over us," etc., etc.

And, of course "Identity Politics."

[BadgerMom]

18. I'm in!

So very, very in.

[Gothmog]

19. Pledge to skip Trump, and watch the #SOTU response from @staceyabrams instead!

Link to tweet

[MrGrieves]

20. How do Democrats kick him out?

I don’t think it is their call.

[Act_of_Reparation]

23. Ostracism

No makes it in this world alone.

[MrGrieves]

24. I am good with that IF

I am good with that IF there is unity in that action. If not then we are going to have infighting and that is not good either.

[Act_of_Reparation]

27. I don't see how you avoid infighting at this point.

If the party officially backs him, there are some who will (rightfully) disagree and there will be infighting. If the party kicks him to the curb, there will be some who disagree, and there will be infighting.

Wanna know the best way to avoid infighting? Not making yourself up in blackface.

[MrGrieves]

28. I guess what I am saying is this

I guess what I am saying is has the party done everything it can publicly? I think the guy should have stepped down days ago. But given that he hasn't how much longer should democrats continue to talk about it publicly while it is being used to portray the party as though it is in disarray?

[Act_of_Reparation]

29. Probably.

I mean, all they can do publicly is call on Northam to resign. If he needs incentivizing, I'm sure they'll put the screws to him behind the scenes.

[MineralMan]

22. I like it. There is more secretive, subtle racism

in the Democratic Party than most people believe.

[MrGrieves]

25. Agreed.

[redstatebluegirl]

26. Yes, I want to know more about the allegations against the Lt. Gov.

It sounds a little odd, I tend to believe the woman but the timing of this is really suspect. No way to I support the racist governor.

[Mister Ed]

30. Aye! K&R. n/t