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We filed taxes exactly a week ago, and refund was in our bank this morning. (Original Post) Croney Feb 2019 OP
How did the refund compare to last year? Squinch Feb 2019 #1
My tax is lower this year at140 Feb 2019 #3
Last year's was bigger than usual due to circumstances that only Croney Feb 2019 #4
Which means you gave IRS free loan at140 Feb 2019 #2
Yes, you're right, and in past years we've done that. Croney Feb 2019 #6
But if you have EITC or certain child credits, it will be held for four weeks Recursion Feb 2019 #5
That's too bad; they're the ones who need it most. Croney Feb 2019 #7
Yep. It's to "prevent fraud", which is complete BS Recursion Feb 2019 #8
There ARE a few cases of fraud nitpicker Feb 2019 #12
Slight correction nitpicker Feb 2019 #9
Just checked, so is mine this AM! Freddie Feb 2019 #10
Isn't that the truth! Croney Feb 2019 #11
My bet is that a lot of simple tax returns DeminPennswoods Feb 2019 #13
Yep. Ours is certainly not the simplest, but Croney Feb 2019 #14
Maybe not at all DeminPennswoods Feb 2019 #17
We filed the day the shutdown ended (Friday the 26th) maryellen99 Feb 2019 #15
I got my state refund today, before my federal Polybius Feb 2019 #16

at140

(6,110 posts)
3. My tax is lower this year
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 08:37 AM
Feb 2019

I never get a refund because I never want to pay IRS any sooner than I have to. If you get refunds, your withholding is too high.

Croney

(4,659 posts)
4. Last year's was bigger than usual due to circumstances that only
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 08:38 AM
Feb 2019

TurboTax can explain (we over-withheld) so this year's is about half of that. I don't know how we were affected by the fake tax cut.

at140

(6,110 posts)
2. Which means you gave IRS free loan
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 08:34 AM
Feb 2019

Better to keep money in your bank account with minimum tax withheld, and pay on April 15 or last legal day.

Croney

(4,659 posts)
6. Yes, you're right, and in past years we've done that.
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 08:43 AM
Feb 2019

My husband just retired, and had to set up income accounts, but then decided to keep working, then retired for good. It was hard to keep track. Should be easy from now on.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
5. But if you have EITC or certain child credits, it will be held for four weeks
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 08:39 AM
Feb 2019

That caught a few of my friends off guard

Croney

(4,659 posts)
7. That's too bad; they're the ones who need it most.
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 08:47 AM
Feb 2019

I guess our return is simple. As landlords, we used to itemize, but now TurboTax chooses the standard deduction as best. We're old and our kids are long gone.

nitpicker

(7,153 posts)
12. There ARE a few cases of fraud
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 08:54 AM
Feb 2019

I've seen it in low-income tax clinics. The purpose of the delays is to give the computers time to cross-check to ensure, in the case of EITC, that children are being claimed on only one return. Unfortunately, this penalizes the vast honest majority who are counting on that money to pay off bills.

nitpicker

(7,153 posts)
9. Slight correction
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 08:49 AM
Feb 2019

From the IRS:

(snip)
The IRS also notes that refunds, by law, cannot be issued before Feb. 15 for tax returns that claim the Earned Income Tax Credit or the Additional Child Tax Credit. This applies to the entire refund — even the portion not associated with the EITC and ACTC. While the IRS will process the EITC and ACTC returns when received, these refunds cannot be issued before Feb. 15. Similar to last year, the IRS expects the earliest EITC/ACTC related refunds to actually be available in taxpayer bank accounts or on debit cards starting on Feb. 27, 2019, if they chose direct deposit and there are no other issues with the tax return.

“Where’s My Refund?” ?on IRS.gov and the IRS2Go mobile app remain the best way to check the status of a refund. “Where’s My Refund?” will be updated with projected deposit dates for most early EITC and ACTC refund filers on Feb. 23, so those filers will not see a refund date on “Where's My Refund?” ?or through their software packages until then. The IRS, tax preparers and tax software will not have additional information on refund dates, so these filers should not contact or call about refunds before the end of February.

This law was changed to give the IRS more time to detect and prevent fraud. Even with the EITC and ACTC refunds and the additional security safeguards, the IRS still expects to issue more than nine out of 10 refunds in less than 21 days. However, it’s possible a particular tax return may require additional review and a refund could take longer. Even so, taxpayers and tax return preparers should file when they’re ready. For those who usually file early in the year and are ready to file a complete and accurate return, there is no need to wait to file.
(snip)

https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/irs-kicks-off-2019-tax-filing-season-as-tax-agency-reopens-use-irsgov-to-avoid-phone-delays



Freddie

(9,265 posts)
10. Just checked, so is mine this AM!
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 08:50 AM
Feb 2019

DH needs new tires.
Got a nice refund as I over-withheld not knowing what the tax scam would do to us. I’m retired now and not having much come out of my pension so god knows what next year will bring.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
13. My bet is that a lot of simple tax returns
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 09:03 AM
Feb 2019

are automated. The IRS probably does "exception management" where if after the data is entered in their computer system, something on a return is outside of normal parameters, it will be reviewed more in depth by an agent.

Croney

(4,659 posts)
14. Yep. Ours is certainly not the simplest, but
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 09:17 AM
Feb 2019

the "paper trail" is there and TurboTax makes sure it's at least free of math errors, so it might not have been seen by human eyes until the end.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
17. Maybe not at all
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 01:48 PM
Feb 2019

When I worked at DoD, we managed by "exception", that is if a document was properly filled out, assests were available and there were no manually placed restrictions, the request was automatically filled. We never even saw the document. At the time, DoD had sold airplanes to Iran who, like every other customer, sent their parts requests in in standard format. Even after they took the American hostages, we continued to fill their requirements because the documents came in in the right format and no one had thought to put a restriction on the incoming requests. Eventually, all the parts were stopped, but they were on the loading dock ready to board a ship bound for Iran!

The same thing was true of contracts under a certain dollar value, they were just automatically awarded, untouched by human hands.

maryellen99

(3,788 posts)
15. We filed the day the shutdown ended (Friday the 26th)
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 11:30 AM
Feb 2019

It was accepted on the 28th and the refund was in the bank on Friday.

Polybius

(15,398 posts)
16. I got my state refund today, before my federal
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 11:34 AM
Feb 2019

This is the first time that that's ever happened to me.

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