Defining a "brokered convention."

[Garrett78]

If no Democratic presidential candidate has 2383 pledged delegates after the first ballot at the convention (which will likely be the case), there will be a second ballot, meaning superdelegates will determine the outcome.

Would that alone constitute a "brokered convention" in your view? Or would it only constitute a "brokered convention" if nobody is at 2383 following the second ballot?

[Renew Deal]

1. It would be enough for most people

Is 2383 a majority including super-delegates or excluding them? If it includes them, then the winner needs a super-majority.

[Garrett78]

2. Superdelegates won't have a vote on the first ballot.

So, 2383 on the first ballot is a tall order, and that's the number required to win the nomination.

I agree that many will consider it a "brokered convention" if we simply get past the first ballot, especially if there's an indication that superdelegates are having discussions behind closed doors.

[Renew Deal]

3. We are setting ourselves up for disaster if the person needs 2383 without super delegates

Not every year, but eventually.