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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSenator Kamala Harris: Fairfax Accuser's Letter 'Reads As Credible'
I take her at her word
matt819
(10,749 posts)And I'm sure my two cents are not welcome.
But I thought Fairfax's response read as credible.
I haven't listened to either of them, and that could be revealing.
I don't really care all that much about what's going on in Virginia. It mostly turns my stomach. But I can't help but think about how Al Franken was railroaded, and this is one instance that raises those alarm bells, and so it definitely warrants a very thorough investigation, though I don't know how much further than he said/she said this can get.
So, my two cents.
We live in very strange times.
LexVegas
(6,962 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,848 posts)and decide not to go with the story?
questionseverything
(11,985 posts)it will difficult to prove either way but the lt gov did misrepresent why the post did not run the story
that doesn't help his credibility
Yosemito
(648 posts)I've seen a few people claim that the test that Fairfax misrepresented WaPo means he probably raped her.
questionseverything
(11,985 posts)why the post didn't run the story
he admits the sex happened, his claim is it was consensual
my inclination is to believe the woman
she says it was forced
but even if we look at the story from his point of view, they were kissing and all the sudden she decides to preform oral sex on him?
I personally don't buy that but that could say more about me than I would like to admit
he also said he was gonna sue for defamation...has that lawsuit been filed?
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)She's had 14 years and 7 months to do it.
Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)Christine Blasey Ford and Anita Hill.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)stories that "sounded credible," Ocalypse. They had people they told about it, and they also had senates refusing to interview their witnesses, and in Hill's case other claimants, in common.
Credible of course means she's not ruled out by her own story. Critically important start, but...
Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)Link to tweet
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EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)limitations had run decades before Professor Ford first came forward. So there was no way for either of them to file charges.
On the other hand, the statute of limitations hasn't yet run for Dr. Tyson and she can still press charges against Fairfax. If she's willing to come forward and issue a statement, why not press charges with the State of Massachusetts and let the police conduct an investigation? It's odd that she didn't do that before going to the Washington Post with her story, but she may have had her reasons. But what's stopping her from doing it now?
pnwmom
(110,324 posts)The reporter might have said something about not being able to corroborate her accusations that he interpreted as a stronger statement than the reporter intended it to be.
So he might not have been deliberately lying about why the story didn't go forward.
questionseverything
(11,985 posts)I fully admit I am preconditioned to believe the woman
but it is possible that they were both telling the truth, from their own perspective
her truth is easy to understand so I won't bother explaining that but
from his perspective, he could of felt, he was powerful and manly, too wrapped up in his own pleasure to actually consider her feelings at all....that he was simply mistaken about her consent
medicaid expansion is such a HUGE deal,progressive policys so important i could forgive all 3, they just need to admit fault, beg for forgiveness and battle this out during future primaries
pnwmom
(110,324 posts)Unfortunately, she might have been screaming INTERNALLY about not wanting to do it -- a not unlikely reaction for someone who was, as a child, sexually assaulted by her father (who went to prison for incest and molestation). And he might have been oblivious to her true feelings about what they were doing.
And now she remembers how much she didn't want to do it, and he can't remember any resistance on her part.
Or that's one possibility, anyway. I'll feel differently if other women come forward, and this turns out to be a pattern for him.
questionseverything
(11,985 posts)that they all 3 deserve another chance
ooky
(11,062 posts)help prove it.
I think his letter reads credible too. Let the investigation begin.
We have two credible people with impressive biographies and backgrounds claiming 2 different things about a sexual incident that only they have knowledge of--a classic he said/she said. Unless other evidence arises to tip the scale and/or testimony is given under oath by which to judge both stories, we're still on Square 1: an allegation and a denial.
None of this is easy.
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