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Ron Paul's foreign policy views on non intervention and stop being the world police is spot on.
I'm sick of sending billions on foreign aid to countries that hate us. Frankly I'm sick of sending billions in foreign aid to any country. He would also bring our troops home.
Hillary Clinton , she would have pushed harder for a single payer health care system .
I don't think she would have compromised.
Bill Clinton , he had and has a good grasp of domestic economic issues .
That would be my choice. Put them together and you would have an ideal President .
What's your list?
Viva_La_Revolution
(28,791 posts)former-republican
(2,163 posts)I should have included him in my list.
Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)jorno67
(1,986 posts)JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)cbayer
(146,218 posts)Agree
Whisp
(24,096 posts)besides, none of the three mentioned up there hold a candle to him.
sure Hillary could have got health care reform... IF
and I would be able to fly to the moon IF...
fact is, neither happened and will never.
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)Don't get me wrong - I support his reelection 10000000% - especially in light of the alternative. And I will do all can to insure he does win reelection. There is NO alternative. But if this is as good as it gets - moderately socially liberal - with economics slightly to the right of old style traditional Republicans and a foreign policy only slightly moderated from the second term (not the first term when the necons dominated) of the Bush Jr. Administration - well, if this is as good as it gets - I am glad I'm growing older and don't have that many more decades in this world.
movonne
(9,623 posts)he goes to the left more...there is something about Obama that I love...I also felt (maybe not as much as Obama) that way about Clinton...
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)on one of the most liberal/left forums in America seriously have as their vision of utopia the Obama/Clinton agenda - center-left social issues/center right on economics and foreign policy. I can't imagine singing folk songs about that. Call me old fashioned and square, but back when I was young and thought about changing the world and rearranging the world I had in mind something a bit more radical than Nixonian Republicanism with a dash of social liberalism wrapped in feel good cliches and packaged in Madison Avenue patriotism.
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)Love the folk song comment, surprisingly illustrative.
He's the best president of my lifetime
DrewFlorida
(1,096 posts)The best qualities of both Presidents combined, minus Monica Lewinski.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)with clinton blabber.
Bill can talk the good talk but a lot of the time he doesn't really say anything. but it sounds good.
DrewFlorida
(1,096 posts)My inclusion of Clinton had to do with his power to persuade.
For the first time in my adult life, I am proud of our President in every way.
DJ13
(23,671 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)... Bill Clinton's ability to connect with people and Obama's speaking ability.
... or Elizabeth Warren with a good speechwriting team.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)The passion and empathy of RFK and George McGovern
The brains and cool-headedness of Obama or JFK
LBJ's grasp on domestic policy and willing to do whatever needed to be done to better the lot of the people
Jimmy Carter's foreign policy, his disastrous decision to let the monstrous Shit, err, Shah of Iran into the country aside
FDR's vision and ability to inspire the people to unite.
I'd settle for that.
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)Come to think of it George McGovern did pretty much have the same domestic policy as LBJ. So, really George McGovern with LBJ's political muscle.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)DevonRex
(22,541 posts)If the makeup of Congress doesn't change it's gonna take some stuff you probably don't want to know about to get anything done.
C_U_L8R
(49,526 posts)Obama goes Rambo.
former-republican
(2,163 posts)I just wish he had more of a nonintervention view with his foreign policy
I'm glad he hasn't made the mistake with letting Israel drag us into another war.
Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)quinnox
(20,600 posts)I wouldn't put any president from the last 50 years as any part of what an ideal president would be. It has been one mediocrity after another.
former-republican
(2,163 posts)and combine them together.
Also it doesn't have to be a former President just someone who has held public office.
congressman , senator etc.
Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)RagAss
(13,832 posts)Comrade_McKenzie
(2,526 posts)ecstatic
(35,135 posts)Perhaps in the future you could mention them instead of the one-dimensional Ron Paul who wasn't even man enough to comment on Akin's remarks. Is he afraid his comments about "honest rape" would resurface?
Yes, Paul's right about the wars but THAT'S IT. He wants to end everything from the Dept. of Education to Social Security to a woman's right to choose.
former-republican
(2,163 posts)And it's not just war.
It's billions of dollars in aid and military weapons sent to countries.
If there are democrats in congress that always vote against that.
I am unaware of it.
Please list them
ecstatic
(35,135 posts)I just get irate when I see Paul's name mentioned in a positive context.
I can't tell you which ones vote against the military each time, but even if there are none, there are democrats who are not currently in office who are completely against wars and unnecessary military spending. Like Howard Dean, etc.
former-republican
(2,163 posts)FACT CHECK: Pres. Obama INCREASED Military Aid to Israel in FY2013 Budget
NJDC February 17, 2012 1:07 pm | Barack Obama | Budget | Election 2012 | GOP Hypocrisies | Israel Comments (0) Add a comment
FACT CHECK: President Barack Obama has increased foreign military assistance to Israel in his FY2013 budget request. (Follow links to page 172 of the State Departments FY2013 budget report, showing a $25 million overall year-to-year increase in the White House foreign military assistance budget request.)
The National Jewish Democratic Council (NJDC) responded today to the Republican Jewish Coalitions latest divisive effort to use Israel as a partisan wedge issue during this election year. Following a report in Politico that the Jewish Republican group has released a web video attacking President Barack Obama surrounding his record-setting foreign military assistance budget request for Israel, NJDC President and CEO David A. Harris commented:
The National Jewish Democratic Council applauds this increased, largest-ever military assistance requested for Israel under President Barack Obamamade all the more significant against the backdrop of a difficult budgetary climate. This is yet another example of how President Obama continues to stand with Israel, time and time again.
We are truly through the looking glass here; only those with the most partisan, facts-be-damned agenda would view the largest military assistance package for any foreign country in history at a difficult budgetary time as anything but a powerful way of supporting our closest ally, Israel. The hypocrisy here is astonishing; the simple fact is that the overall budget request for military assistance to Israel is increasing. Further, as has been reported by the Jewish Telegraphic Agency, the missile defense funding previously requested by President George W. Bush for Israel needed to routinely be dramatically increasedand even doubled in 2003by Congress. This was met with deafening silence on the part of Jewish Republicans, and by us as well, as this was hardly an indicator that President Bush was no friend of Israel.
These Republicans continue to play a dangerous game with Israels security through such antics. By suggesting anything but the truththat this Administration has dramatically strengthened Israels military capabilitiessuch tactics as these dreadful videos can incorrectly suggest to the Iranian leadership that now is the time to become even more belligerent against a supposedly weakened Israel. Here we have Republicans sadly placing partisanship above Israels safety and securityand placing politics above the rich tradition of bipartisan support for a strong U.S.-Israel relationship.
This is the President who initiated the building of the Iron Dome missile defense shield over Israel and secured the funding to make it a reality, protecting the lives of Israelis on a daily basis today. One thing is certain here;
for missile defense
brewens
(15,359 posts)Taverner
(55,476 posts)With Henry Agard Wallace as VP
undeterred
(34,658 posts)You asked.
former-republican
(2,163 posts)She needs to be a moderator in every single debate.
Now that would be some debates worth watching.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)don't want to answer.
former-republican
(2,163 posts)Can you imagine Ryan and Romney standing on stage with Rachel as the moderator.
Not letting them use the typical talking points that other moderators let them get away with.
We could sell ticket to a debate like that.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)She would dog them too.
And then the rest of the media would praise how well Romney and Ryan did, and scream that either Obama and Biden failed, or that Rachel did not hit them hard enough.
ananda
(35,504 posts). . . Bernie Sanders.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Clearly a liberal, probably a socialist, healthcare advocate, not a fan of the money changers, or the self-righteous ... and the ability to turn water into wine.
For the win! Well done sir!
TBF
(37,162 posts)
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