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Yosemito

(648 posts)
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 09:29 PM Feb 2019

Kobluchar accused of humiliating, throwing objects at tearful employees

Reported today by Buzzfeed:

But behind the doors of her Washington, DC, office, the Minnesota Democrat ran a workplace controlled by fear, anger, and shame, according to interviews with eight former staffers, one that many employees found intolerably cruel. She demeaned and berated her staff almost daily, subjecting them to bouts of explosive rage and regular humiliation within the office, according to interviews and dozens of emails reviewed by BuzzFeed News.

That anger regularly left employees in tears, four former staffers said. She yelled, threw papers, and sometimes even hurled objects; one aide was accidentally hit with a flying binder, according to someone who saw it happen, though the staffer said the senator did not intend to hit anyone with the binder when she threw it


https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/mollyhensleyclancy/amy-klobuchar-staff-2020-election?bftw=pol
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Kobluchar accused of humiliating, throwing objects at tearful employees (Original Post) Yosemito Feb 2019 OP
She needs to resign immediately ... HipChick Feb 2019 #1
so much for Minnesota nice dsc Feb 2019 #2
Ha, Minnesota nice is really just passive aggressiveness. Luciferous Feb 2019 #37
Yep, down south customerserviceguy Feb 2019 #42
Oh my snowybirdie Feb 2019 #3
Small potatoes. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #4
Not if you're the one on the receiving end. WillowTree Feb 2019 #28
This is very true. Mean bosses suck. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #30
I had religious differences with my last boss customerserviceguy Feb 2019 #43
if its not in the enquirer or rawstory it cant possibly be true nt msongs Feb 2019 #5
I HATE this - have always admired her elfin Feb 2019 #6
No, these stories have been floating around for years, The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2019 #31
That's all they got? hahahahahahahahaha rainin Feb 2019 #7
She sounds like she could knock Trump on his ass. TheCowsCameHome Feb 2019 #8
Really... Really??? Blue Owl Feb 2019 #9
But was she hysterical? Because thats the usual claim!!! winstars Feb 2019 #10
True. But a female staffee is quoted Yosemito Feb 2019 #15
Wonder if any Democrats will be left standing for the Democratic Convention in 2020. democratisphere Feb 2019 #11
And this customerserviceguy Feb 2019 #44
Sounds like a Roger Stone type hit Generic Brad Feb 2019 #12
+1 2naSalit Feb 2019 #16
How do we know if this story traces back to the WH or Kremlin? Who NCjack Feb 2019 #23
I thought about that also...attacking her strength Awsi Dooger Feb 2019 #21
Yep. dalton99a Feb 2019 #22
I agree. All anonymous? This sounds like a hit piece. yardwork Feb 2019 #27
It is open season on Democrats it seems. Demsrule86 Feb 2019 #40
Any idea when that 'ends', exactly? mr_lebowski Feb 2019 #53
As long as we fall for it and reward the GOP for this sort of thing, it will continue. Demsrule86 Feb 2019 #65
They have no other bdamomma Feb 2019 #67
We need to fight...and I think they are already attacking women candidates. Demsrule86 Feb 2019 #73
Yeah, if you're a "former" staffer TexasBushwhacker Feb 2019 #74
Exactly, swiftboating of a strong candidate radius777 Feb 2019 #47
This story came from HER OWN STAFFERS... regnaD kciN Feb 2019 #52
Really? WOW! kcr Feb 2019 #66
Would anything she is accused of doing be a big story about a male candidate? hlthe2b Feb 2019 #13
In fairness, McCain was accussed of having quite a temper still_one Feb 2019 #54
but they were ok working on her senate campaign ? JI7 Feb 2019 #14
+1. Like campaign work is a low-stress environment dalton99a Feb 2019 #24
They are identified as Senate staffers not campaign staff TeamPooka Feb 2019 #55
Crash Course in Anger management, if true? Cha Feb 2019 #17
funny MFM008 Feb 2019 #18
Its nothing new PatSeg Feb 2019 #39
All asked not to be named. tavernier Feb 2019 #19
no attribution is very suspicious yes nt msongs Feb 2019 #26
Seriously?? They are worried about future jobs. Wow! nt USALiberal Feb 2019 #69
They don't want to get fired nt Yosemito Feb 2019 #46
Former staffers probably wouldn't be too worried about that. MrsCoffee Feb 2019 #51
Of course they would. former9thward Feb 2019 #63
Yes, they would! wow. nt USALiberal Feb 2019 #70
Michele Bachmann demands Klobuchar's resignation, says Minnesotans deserve "better senator" dalton99a Feb 2019 #20
I had a boss a few years back ..... Hotler Feb 2019 #25
Dayum! customerserviceguy Feb 2019 #45
I had a boss like that once in my early 20's. He threw a stapler at me. akraven Feb 2019 #29
I don't believe it! Lifelong Protester Feb 2019 #32
If She Was A Male.... LovingA2andMI Feb 2019 #33
Post removed Post removed Feb 2019 #36
I threw my laptop across the room True Dough Feb 2019 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author RandySF Feb 2019 #35
A bad temper in a man riverwalker Feb 2019 #38
At my company they are called "assholes" before they are fired. nt USALiberal Feb 2019 #75
I am hoping this isn't true, but i will wait until more is revealed. smirkymonkey Feb 2019 #41
And if she were a man? A local host of a PBS station asked the guest question everything Feb 2019 #48
Wow! peggysue2 Feb 2019 #49
Sounds like another hit piece on a good female politician! ananda Feb 2019 #50
"I cried. I cried, like, all the time" made me laugh. betsuni Feb 2019 #56
We have enough good people to choose from that we don't leftyladyfrommo Feb 2019 #57
Now, if a guy was accused of the same NewJeffCT Feb 2019 #58
So basically... jcgoldie Feb 2019 #59
Throwing objects at employees would mean boss has high standards? LisaL Feb 2019 #60
If I had heard this about a male politician, I would be just as turned off. smirkymonkey Feb 2019 #64
Bill Clinton was known NewJeffCT Feb 2019 #82
Yes, he would be called an "asshole", happens a lot. nt USALiberal Feb 2019 #71
+1 treestar Feb 2019 #72
a lot of the people that worked for him NewJeffCT Feb 2019 #83
The hit pieces keep on coming Sunsky Feb 2019 #61
Politics is a pressure cooker radius777 Feb 2019 #62
Bye Bye, I hate bully's! nt USALiberal Feb 2019 #68
Typo in title! nt USALiberal Feb 2019 #76
I loved Colbert's response to this story. He said finding this out about her was like getting Vinca Feb 2019 #77
othet former staffers are saying she runs a tight ship. and praising her for that Kurt V. Feb 2019 #78
Quit eating our own. LakeArenal Feb 2019 #79
2019 Charlotte Little Feb 2019 #80
If temperamental is the only slime the right wing can sling... LakeArenal Feb 2019 #81

elfin

(6,262 posts)
6. I HATE this - have always admired her
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 09:37 PM
Feb 2019

For her smarts, thoughtfulness and yes, her even demeanor.

Could be the result of the recent George Will Oped that surmised she is the one who can unify us and beat Trump in 2020. This event could cause the opposition to scramble to find ANYTHING that could hurt her to the nomination.

And in the accepted history of men being hard taskmasters -- why can't women??

So I will withhold judgment.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,692 posts)
31. No, these stories have been floating around for years,
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 10:21 PM
Feb 2019

since she was the Hennepin County Attorney before she ran for the Senate. They were an issue when she first ran for the Senate in 2006, although the allegations didn't affect her campaign. If these claims are even partly true they need to be addressed and dealt with now, before they become an issue in the primaries. Whatever skeletons any candidate has in their closet - and they all will have at least one or two - get them out early and hope that it's irrelevant old news by next year.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
44. And this
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 01:01 AM
Feb 2019

is just us beating up on them. When they get into the debates, it could get a lot worse.

Our 2020 nominee will have indeed run a gauntlet. I guess that's the preparation for running against Trump.

Generic Brad

(14,275 posts)
12. Sounds like a Roger Stone type hit
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 09:49 PM
Feb 2019

Kloubachar is known for being nice. This is an attack on her strength. I smell ratfuck journalism.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
23. How do we know if this story traces back to the WH or Kremlin? Who
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 10:04 PM
Feb 2019

are the accusers? I just don't believe it.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
21. I thought about that also...attacking her strength
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 10:01 PM
Feb 2019

I doubt these type of attacks would amount to anything in a general election unless there was evidence of it publicly during the campaign. But it could cause primary voters to steer clear of her. Maybe that is the goal. It is seemingly very easy to sway a primary as opposed to a general election, because everyone in a primary has more or less the same perspective.

Attempting to dictate the nominee -- or disqualify certain candidates -- is the next logical step for the type who used social media to tilt the general election in 2016. I'm not saying for sure that is going on here but I would certainly anticipate that type of thing. The desperate fixes are always aimed at what happened previously and not what is happening now.

bdamomma

(63,849 posts)
67. They have no other
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 06:44 PM
Feb 2019

way just their grotesque lies being thrown around. Repigs are worst than pigs. Hey if they want a fight they will get a fight, don't they dare go after women candidates, who are more superior than repigs. WTF!!!!

radius777

(3,635 posts)
47. Exactly, swiftboating of a strong candidate
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 01:54 AM
Feb 2019

she's from the Midwest, a crucial region, and is generally liked by both sides of the aisle.

it may be a RW/Stone hitpiece, but could also be coming from the alt(anti-Dem) left, where many of these hit-pieces seem to be coming from, to destroy the mainstream Dem candidates (like Klobuchar), to pave the way for their favored candidate(s).

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
52. This story came from HER OWN STAFFERS...
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 03:43 AM
Feb 2019

I’m assuming the theory here was that those eeeeeeeevil Republicans planted their operatives on her staff (and somehow managed to get their previous political track record past her hiring process) over a decade ago just so they could torpedo her presidential candidacy many years later?


kcr

(15,317 posts)
66. Really? WOW!
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 06:27 PM
Feb 2019

It's simply incredible how someone can hide their assholery in such a way that only the anonymous ones ever see it. That takes skill.

hlthe2b

(102,269 posts)
13. Would anything she is accused of doing be a big story about a male candidate?
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 09:51 PM
Feb 2019

I would like for everyone to be "nice" to those who work with and for them, but....

PatSeg

(47,430 posts)
39. Its nothing new
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 10:37 PM
Feb 2019

We've been through it many times before. They'll go after our best and brightest, the ones who are the greatest threat to them. We need to get used to it, as it will be a long two years and the attacks won't let up. Republicans know our Achilles's heel and we need to let it roll off.

Hotler

(11,421 posts)
25. I had a boss a few years back .....
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 10:14 PM
Feb 2019

that would throw stuff and slam drawers and even bang his head on his desk. One day he was having a tantrum and threw a pen and barely missed my head. Four other people witnessed it and their eyes got really big when I stood up walked over and grabbed him by the shirt and told him in front of everybody if I caught him again throwing stuff I would beat his ass into the carpet right then and there. I said I would be out of jail before he was out of the hospital. I'm an ex-ironworker and you don't want get on my bad side.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
45. Dayum!
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 01:07 AM
Feb 2019

That's way better than "Take This Job and Shove It!"

I used sarcasm with my last boss. He played the audiotape of a customer who was clearly gunning for anyone in customer service with our utility company, who could not have been satisfied by anybody, and I didn't resolve the situation to their satisfaction, to put it mildly. After the tape, and in front of the HR person and the union rep, he asked me, "Is there anything you could have done to make that come out better?"

My reply was, "Get into a time machine, and give that customer a Xanax about half an hour before they called me."

Yes, that part went into my file for the suspension. The union rep said, "Well, they wanted to suspend you for five days, but we got it down to three." My reply was, "What, you couldn't get it up to seven days of them going without the job I do around here?" I took early retirement a month or two later. Take this job and shove it!

akraven

(1,975 posts)
29. I had a boss like that once in my early 20's. He threw a stapler at me.
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 10:16 PM
Feb 2019

I had asked him if he wanted to place his lunch order or was going out.

I quit on the spot. With a LARGE FU on top of it.

Response to LovingA2andMI (Reply #33)

True Dough

(17,304 posts)
34. I threw my laptop across the room
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 10:22 PM
Feb 2019

upon reading this thread title!

Now I'm typing this on my blasted phone! Maybe I'll learn to keep my temper in check too.

Response to Yosemito (Original post)

riverwalker

(8,694 posts)
38. A bad temper in a man
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 10:37 PM
Feb 2019

Is “fiery, fierce, irascible, cantankerous, contrary” and used often to describe effective male politicians.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
41. I am hoping this isn't true, but i will wait until more is revealed.
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 10:47 PM
Feb 2019

If it is true, she is toast. It's not looking good for her. I really thought she would make an ideal VP candidate. I never thought she would be the front runner.

question everything

(47,479 posts)
48. And if she were a man? A local host of a PBS station asked the guest
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 02:02 AM
Feb 2019

This would be different, the guest - a woman professor - admitted.

There are many men bosses who were described as behaving in a similar way. They are considered titans of their industries, tough, getting things done.


peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
49. Wow!
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 02:36 AM
Feb 2019

I have to say I'm impressed. Kobluchar isn't even officially out of the gate and she's getting whacked. We've got nasties on Harris, Gillibrand, Warren, Gabbard (of course), and now Kobluchar. So glad this is the Year of the Woman! And we're how far out from the primaries?

This is going to be so-o-o exhilarating.

betsuni

(25,519 posts)
56. "I cried. I cried, like, all the time" made me laugh.
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 06:02 AM
Feb 2019

Maybe if you don't pay attention to details like grammar mistakes and poor word choices in press releases, pack the wrong clothes, staple things when you know your boss likes paper clips, you might entertain the possibility that you're bad at your job and try harder. Maybe I'm a bad person like Klobuchar! I watch Hell's Kitchen, too.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
58. Now, if a guy was accused of the same
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 09:05 AM
Feb 2019

Last edited Sat Feb 9, 2019, 11:03 PM - Edit history (1)

would it even be newsworthy?

He'd just be a driven and motivated boss who has high standards and expects the same of his staff.



 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
64. If I had heard this about a male politician, I would be just as turned off.
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 05:34 PM
Feb 2019

Someone who can't control their anger and with so little impulse control has no business occupying the highest office in the land, whether they are male or female. How Trump managed to get in is because of Russians, cheating and stupid, hateful voters.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
72. +1
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 07:06 PM
Feb 2019

And the people working for him would not complain so much and not be so miserable and would admire how tough he is.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
83. a lot of the people that worked for him
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 11:05 PM
Feb 2019

would still be miserable, but the people not immediately around him would think he's great.

Sunsky

(1,737 posts)
61. The hit pieces keep on coming
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 09:44 AM
Feb 2019

I guess I should believe conflicting anonymous sources and unseen evidence . Show us the emails at least.
The election season is in the early stages and Democrats are already under attack. Even here on DU, we have seen the ramping up of negative stories about our likely candidates.
However, Democrats have boxed ourselves in with these unattainable purity standards, which will leave no Democrat standing. Remember, there is no perfect candidate. Also, remember who we are up against.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
62. Politics is a pressure cooker
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 04:23 PM
Feb 2019

Go watch The War Room or any other great political documentary or drama such as The West Wing, House of Cards, etc.

The game of politics is tough, and can't really be compared to other workplaces.

You have severely overworked people under a microscope 24/7, who may sometimes act in unconventional ways. These "anonymous" sources (who I'm willing to bet have their own political motivations) need a thicker skin... also, how do we know that it wasn't Klobuchar who was the one being bullied, she is sweet and nice to a fault... classic swiftboating.

Vinca

(50,271 posts)
77. I loved Colbert's response to this story. He said finding this out about her was like getting
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 09:27 PM
Feb 2019

a car from Oprah and finding a body in the trunk.

Charlotte Little

(658 posts)
80. 2019
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 09:38 PM
Feb 2019

Women who run are:
- horrible bosses who FORCE employees to stay.
- Fucking liars about their race no matter what they were told in the past.
- Brittle "kinda" black, angry women who hope to...
- white, overly-ambitious women who...run.

Did I miss anyone?

LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
81. If temperamental is the only slime the right wing can sling...
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 09:54 PM
Feb 2019

Then run Amy run.

For pete’s sake, I’ve had perfectionist bosses before. If successful, they are usually as hard on themselves as they are on others.

I’ve had one who was a grammar and punctuation perfectionist.

I’ve had the binder clips, no staples or paper clips.

I’ve had a yeller: One that likes to threat dismissal. One that would believe his minnion over everyone else.

Never wanted to leave any of them for it.

It’s called work.

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