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Sat Feb 9, 2019, 02:32 PM

So, about that low-keyed, quiet guy who could nail down the presidency

No Republican can win the presidency without winning Ohio. It's become a purple state. But Sherrod Brown, Democratic Senator of Ohio, has been winning elections there since 2006.

He's liberal, he's smart, and when he speaks, everyone can understand his positions, his beliefs, his values, and his dedication to healing America after a couple of years of Trump madness, and a few decades of Republican insanity.

In 2020, I will vote for any Democrat who is nominated. I believe that virtually any Democratic candidate can beat the orange creature. Or, if the creature is gone, that any Dem can beat the malicious, hollow man named Mike Pence.

Right now, we have enough Dems running for president to jam a Manhattan subway car. Many will drop out along the way. And we will eventually end up with a front runner and then a candidate.

Put the name Sherrod Brown in the back of your mind. It's possible to be low-keyed, soft-spoken, yet be endowed with greatness. No one can predict what lies ahead. But Brown might just be the one to put America back onto the tracks from which we've fallen.

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Reply So, about that low-keyed, quiet guy who could nail down the presidency (Original post)
Cyrano Feb 2019 OP
lkinwi Feb 2019 #1
Thekaspervote Feb 2019 #6
dem4decades Feb 2019 #27
klook Feb 2019 #72
MH1 Feb 2019 #33
Sneederbunk Feb 2019 #62
onit2day Feb 2019 #119
DownriverDem Feb 2019 #97
lunatica Feb 2019 #2
BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2019 #35
marble falls Feb 2019 #78
efhmc Feb 2019 #86
marble falls Feb 2019 #87
efhmc Feb 2019 #91
marble falls Feb 2019 #94
efhmc Feb 2019 #95
irisblue Feb 2019 #3
bobbieinok Feb 2019 #10
lastlib Feb 2019 #29
guillaumeb Feb 2019 #52
True Blue American Feb 2019 #20
babylonsister Feb 2019 #79
irisblue Feb 2019 #80
babylonsister Feb 2019 #84
NurseJackie Feb 2019 #4
ZapataViva Feb 2019 #24
NurseJackie Feb 2019 #36
ZapataViva Feb 2019 #37
NurseJackie Feb 2019 #38
ZapataViva Feb 2019 #39
NurseJackie Feb 2019 #41
ZapataViva Feb 2019 #44
NurseJackie Feb 2019 #45
marble falls Feb 2019 #53
ZapataViva Feb 2019 #58
marble falls Feb 2019 #66
ZapataViva Feb 2019 #59
marble falls Feb 2019 #67
Name removed Feb 2019 #111
George II Feb 2019 #98
Quixote1818 Feb 2019 #103
NurseJackie Feb 2019 #107
Cha Feb 2019 #122
efhmc Feb 2019 #90
George II Feb 2019 #65
Quixote1818 Feb 2019 #101
Name removed Feb 2019 #110
Cha Feb 2019 #121
Gothmog Feb 2019 #114
Cha Feb 2019 #120
George II Feb 2019 #64
cstanleytech Feb 2019 #46
NurseJackie Feb 2019 #47
cstanleytech Feb 2019 #48
NurseJackie Feb 2019 #49
ZapataViva Feb 2019 #60
NurseJackie Feb 2019 #61
lillypaddle Feb 2019 #68
NurseJackie Feb 2019 #112
at140 Feb 2019 #104
NurseJackie Feb 2019 #108
at140 Feb 2019 #118
NurseJackie Feb 2019 #123
riverwalker Feb 2019 #5
world wide wally Feb 2019 #7
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ooky Feb 2019 #8
Fresh_Start Feb 2019 #9
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Fresh_Start Feb 2019 #16
irisblue Feb 2019 #54
Sneederbunk Feb 2019 #13
Fresh_Start Feb 2019 #15
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shanti Feb 2019 #23
TeamPooka Feb 2019 #11
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irisblue Feb 2019 #19
klook Feb 2019 #73
MissMillie Feb 2019 #76
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MH1 Feb 2019 #81
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Cyrano Feb 2019 #85
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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 02:34 PM

1. He's my favorite so far.

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Response to lkinwi (Reply #1)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 02:44 PM

6. Me too!!

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Response to lkinwi (Reply #1)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 04:31 PM

27. I'd hate to lose his senate seat but would love him as President.

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Response to dem4decades (Reply #27)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 07:23 AM

72. See Post 57. (nt)

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Response to lkinwi (Reply #1)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 05:23 PM

33. Me too. Worried about the Senate seat, but he might be our best Prez candidate.

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Response to lkinwi (Reply #1)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 10:50 PM

62. Definitely a top tier candidate.

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Response to Sneederbunk (Reply #62)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 09:37 PM

119. I'm a Bernie supporter but could easily, vote for Sherrod Brown

 

Afterall, they're all Bernies now

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Response to lkinwi (Reply #1)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 12:12 PM

97. Mine too

Being from Michigan I have watched Sherwood Brown for quite some time. The key for us Dems is to have a candidate that can win a national election. I think Brown can do it.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 02:39 PM

2. They're all so good!

I think I’ll support the Democratic Nominee. I really can’t deal with the infighting in DU during Presidential primaries and will not engage in it. Falling in love too soon can and will lead to heartbreak.

Besides, love really isn’t very objective.

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Response to lunatica (Reply #2)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 05:47 PM

35. gee, you put that well.

And no, I don’t have a fave yet. I don’t know enough to have any big opinions.

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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Reply #35)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 09:58 AM

78. I agree. We don't need the bloodletting of an early squabble primary infight ...

I could vote for each and every Democratic possibility right now. I refuse to choose a favorite until next year. I refuse to join the squabble. We managed to disenchant too many voters last time doing just this over a couple candidates last time.

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Response to marble falls (Reply #78)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 10:53 AM

86. Me too I like them all so far. Corey Booker responded well when asked about unity.

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Response to efhmc (Reply #86)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 10:58 AM

87. In my lifetime there's never been such a great field of candidates in number or abilities.

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Response to marble falls (Reply #87)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 11:08 AM

91. In some way it is overwhelming.

Raining now but small pellets of sleet yesterday. I'm already tired of no sunshine. I do not understand how Northerners do it.

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Response to efhmc (Reply #91)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 11:17 AM

94. It is. We have other important things to deal with. This early primary positioning is distracting ..

and is not needed since 90% of all these very good candidates believe in 90% of the same things - the WH is ours with any of them.

We should be shoring up our new Congressional seats and trying to pick up the few GOP Senate seats available in 2020.

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Response to marble falls (Reply #94)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 11:31 AM

95. You are right.

I do not see myself campaigning for anyone at this point. I would attend any meetings of candidates who come as close as Austin but no donation until we actually have a candidate. Saving up for that person.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 02:40 PM

3. For the record, the GOP & Koch apparatus have been floating domestic violence rumors

Brown & his ex-wife had, like many of us, had angry moments during the divorce process. I have not seen the legal papers, just the rumors on the internet, of an incident of domestic violence. The ex-wife has denied this, she & her second husband have held fund raisers for Sen Brown couple of times. I understand the relationships between the couples are cordial.

This will come up during his campaign, it did during his last Senate campaign. Dark & Deep $ will be out for him.

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Response to irisblue (Reply #3)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 02:56 PM

10. Very important to be aware of what's sure to come. GOP operatives working overtime!!!

Our candidates are all already under attack.

Attacks will be MUCH, MUCH worse in 2020.

VA attacks just a practice run!

Didn't KAV warn 'We're coming after you!'

And Amy not even saying she'll run, and there're attacks on her!

Didn't she DARE to question Kav??

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Response to bobbieinok (Reply #10)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 04:34 PM

29. Russian ones, too!

The tricks will be DIRTY and MASSIVE in 2020. Keep your eyes peeled.

Dirty voter suppression tactics will be on full throttle. GOP/Russian/Koch lies will be rampant. It's going to be ugly. We may have to fight ugly with ugly.

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Response to bobbieinok (Reply #10)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 09:24 PM

52. An excellent observation.

Divide and conquer.

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Response to irisblue (Reply #3)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 04:03 PM

20. They are actually friendly

But I would hate to lose Sherrod. He is one of the few bright spots in Ohio.

We could use a man who works hard for the middle class. But honestly that is what Democrats do

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Response to irisblue (Reply #3)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 09:59 AM

79. They're now fast friends, it seems.

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Response to babylonsister (Reply #79)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 10:02 AM

80. Did you notice the date on that story? 6 wks before the most recent Senate campaign. Dark Money.

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Response to irisblue (Reply #80)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 10:16 AM

84. Oh yea, smearing for all they're worth.

From the article:

Larke Recchie, the ex-wife of Sen. Sherrod Brown, said she is “dismayed” supporters of Brown’s re-election opponent Jim Renacci resurrected a three-decade old accusation Thursday that Brown engaged in domestic violence against her, calling the use of her divorce records for a political campaign “shameless” and “disgusting.”

Just hours after the Daily Caller in Washington reported a video was airing accusing Brown of abusing his former wife in the 1980s, Renacci, a Republican congressman from Wadsworth, told The Columbus Dispatch: “Sherrod Brown’s well-documented history of domestic violence is deeply troubling. Ohioans deserve to know all the facts, and judge his fitness for public office for themselves.”

But in a statement issued by Brown’s office, Larke Recchie said “this isn’t the first time someone has gone after my family to score cheap political points. I’m dismayed that Congressman Renacci would do something this shameless, despite the fact that I’ve already addressed this matter.”

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 02:42 PM

4. He's an actual Democrat... so that's definitely a plus!

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #4)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 04:19 PM

24. It never ends

 

Discord strikes again!

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Response to ZapataViva (Reply #24)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 06:21 PM

36. Discord? I have no shame in preferring Democrats.

ZapataViva
24. It never ends
Discord strikes again!
Discord? What discord? I have no shame in preferring Democrats.

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #36)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 06:35 PM

37. Yes, discord

 

We are constantly told by some her to keep from fighting a civil war on this forum. I try to adhere to that. But these constant passive-aggressive attacks on Bernie (and to a lesser extent AOC) get tiresome. I've been in the Democratic Party since I turned 18 in 1972, and you know, what? Bernie, Independent that he is, had a better message than our D candidate in the last prexy election, a person, btw, who I voted for in the general. I'm not an independently wealthy person, so bigger social security checks matter to me, as do stronger Medicare and Medicaid programs. To me, the message is far more important than the messenger. And guess what, I'm still a proud Democrat!

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Response to ZapataViva (Reply #37)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 07:20 PM

38. I only support Democrats...

... for obvious reasons.

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #38)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 07:46 PM

39. NurseJackie

 

Listen, I've got no bone to pick with you--you're probably a nice person. But please lighten up on the attacks--they never sit well with people like me, and cause me to resent people in my own party, which I don't want to do. I consider the Gopers to be my enemies, not other Democrats. We are all on the same side here!

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Response to ZapataViva (Reply #39)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 07:54 PM

41. Nobody is attacking anyone.

I also do not consider other Democrats to be my enemies. The insinuation that I consider Democrats to be so is an insult.

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #41)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 08:26 PM

44. Coulda fooled me

 

You seem to throw darts on a pretty regular basis. But re-read what I posted, I said that I don't like to consider other Democrats enemies--you read into that.

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Response to ZapataViva (Reply #44)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 08:40 PM

45. Nobody is throwing darts.

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Response to ZapataViva (Reply #44)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 09:35 PM

53. Remember this from your profile ...

" I will always try to remain respectful in my comments, though some will undoubtedly be considered provocative. "

Just saying.

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Response to marble falls (Reply #53)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 10:26 PM

58. Telling the truth

 

I did try to remain respectful. Undoubtedly some were considered provocative.

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Response to ZapataViva (Reply #58)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 12:18 AM

66. Past provocative.

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Response to marble falls (Reply #53)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 10:30 PM

59. Read my third post

 

That was an attempt to say no hard feelings, we're all on the same side. It was not reciprocated.

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Response to ZapataViva (Reply #59)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 12:21 AM

67. Jackie remained civil and you kept at her. I've known her for six years and while I know she has ...

strong opinions I've never known her to push anyone personally the way you have her.

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #41)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 12:23 PM

98. Well, I'm certainly happy to see that "you're probably a nice person"!!

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Response to George II (Reply #98)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 01:15 PM

103. Maybe they are?

Why be mean and mock them?

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Response to George II (Reply #98)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 01:38 PM

107. Probably.

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Response to ZapataViva (Reply #39)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 11:35 PM

122. "Attacks"? What "attacks" are you talking about?

Because she likes Dems.. you accuse her falsely of attacking you?

That's ridiculous.

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #38)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 11:04 AM

90. Agreed.

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Response to ZapataViva (Reply #37)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 12:08 AM

65. "Some her"? Really? Four days and you're talking about being "constantly told"?





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Response to ZapataViva (Reply #37)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 01:07 PM

101. Your post is very eloquent. Good luck because it's a losing battle

I gave up biting a long time ago because a few here really don't want to come together. There are just a handful here who continue to want to fight the last election over and over with the passive aggressive jabs despite the DU rules which are designed to bring us together. You can reach out and try to make friends and attempt to bring one another together a million times but they don't care. They will just say "Who me????? I'm not trying to be passive aggressive and make others feel uncomfortable here!" Rather than say, "Humm, I guess I can see your point, we really are on the same side and that election was in the past. I will try to not do that in the future."

In the future I suggest you just ignore the jabs. They are looking for a reaction.

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Response to Quixote1818 (Reply #101)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 11:13 PM

121. There's more than a "few here" who don't

like BS.. who brings it on himself with his own words.

And, that post had misinformation in it.. so it wasn't " very eloquent" at all.

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Response to ZapataViva (Reply #37)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 06:14 PM

114. What is wrong with supporting a resl Democrat like Brown?

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Response to ZapataViva (Reply #37)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 11:05 PM

120. Nope you're Wrong on all counts.

BS brings the negativity on himself with his own words..

Bernie: 'My Opponents' Want Black, White, Gay, Latino or Women Candidates ‘Regardless of What They Stand For’

After the 2016 election, Sanders hit a similar theme when he told a crowd of supporters “It’s not good enough for somebody to say ‘hey I’m a Latina vote for me’ that is not good enough,” and went on to add “It is not good enough for somebody to say, ‘I’m a woman, vote for me.'”

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211722251

He's too divisive.

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Response to ZapataViva (Reply #24)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 12:01 AM

64. What "strikes again"?

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #4)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 08:52 PM

46. Could we please not start the whole "x is an actual democrat" with the unsaid meaning that

others are not as that weakened us a bit and it helped divide the DU the last time.

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Response to cstanleytech (Reply #46)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 09:09 PM

47. Nobody is doing that. Nobody is saying that.

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #47)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 09:14 PM

48. "He's an actual Democrat... so that's definitely a plus!" The implication is there.

So, since we have a long way to go before we finally get down to really choosing our final candidate how about we ease up a bit and simply wait and see who decides to run and what they offer up.
Then we can weigh all their potential their pluses and minuses and hopefully choose a candidate that will kick Trumps ass to the side of road where it belongs, ok?

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Response to cstanleytech (Reply #48)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 09:20 PM

49. I've implied nothing. I was very direct...

... I prefer actual Democrats. How can I be any clearer?

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #49)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 10:39 PM

60. Nobody

 

is doing that, nobody is saying that, nobody is throwing darts . . .

Those seem to be the go-to refrains.

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Response to ZapataViva (Reply #60)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 10:47 PM

61. That's not the only thing that seems familiar.

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #61)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 05:15 AM

68. This

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Response to lillypaddle (Reply #68)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 05:12 PM

112. Elvis has left the building.

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #4)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 01:20 PM

104. I don't know if that line will bring Bernie voters into

the fold or may discourage them from showing up at the polls.
It is well known fact that Bernie brought out many first time voters who had stayed home in the past.

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Response to at140 (Reply #104)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 01:54 PM

108. Well, honestly... that's not a very flattering portrayal of "Bernie voters"...

at140
104. I don't know if that line will bring Bernie voters into
the fold or may discourage them from showing up at the polls.
It is well known fact that Bernie brought out many first time voters who had stayed home in the past.
Well, honestly... that's not a very flattering portrayal of "Bernie voters" if you're seriously trying to argue that MY loyalty to Democrats will "discourage them from showing up at the polls."

Arguments like that are little more than an appeal to fears and emotions and indication of position of weakness when it comes to advocating or arguing a specific position.

Here's the thing, I'm certainly willing to give you the benefit of the doubt. But I have to tell you... if we take you at your word (and at face value) then you're falsely portraying those voters as being shallow, petty and bitter. I'll have to disagree with you on that, because it's simply not true!


All I'm saying is that it's completely absurd to think that those voters actually care (as much as you seem to care) what I think.

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #108)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 09:14 PM

118. I prefer to read positive aspects of ALL candidates

running on the progressive agenda. I am certain there are a whole bunch of flattering aspects to the candidate(s) you like and prefer. Let's hear it!

I have a gut feeling the bitterness between Hillary and Bernie camps in 2016 may have lost Hillary some votes in November 2016. In close elections every vote counts. A more harmonious democratic primary in 2016 could have produced a different result. Of course that is just my feeling and I or any one else can't definitively prove it or disprove it.

I am really looking forward to 2020 without a circular firing squad.

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Response to at140 (Reply #118)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 01:15 AM

123. I guess my standards are higher...

I prefer to read positive aspects of ALL candidates
I guess my standards are higher. I'm more selective in the candidates and parties that I support.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 02:43 PM

5. We have such awesome candidates

No matter who wins the nomination, there are places in the next cabinet for some amazing people. It makes me giddy.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 02:50 PM

7. The fact that he can win in Ohio is a very big deal

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Response to world wide wally (Reply #7)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 07:58 PM

43. That is one of the reasons why I support him as VP candidate with Harris.

I think he has a face and style that America loves and he and Harris would be a formidable duo...

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 02:52 PM

8. I think he could be our strongest candidate in the general election.

I can foresee him having appeal to voters in battleground rust belt states. Also to independent voters who swung to Trump and figured out later he lied to them - his dignity of work message could resonate with them. Maybe he could even turn Ohio into a possible battleground state.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 02:56 PM

9. I'd like to see him on the ticket

but I'd surely like that ticket to also include a smart woman (i.e., no Sarah Palin types).

I love Kamala and Warren...either would bring geographic diversity to the ticket) midwest + west or midwest + northeast

And Stacy Abrams...is just a wow to me...She could bring more Southern voters...

For a non-politician, I sort of dream of Sally Yates....





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Response to Fresh_Start (Reply #9)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 03:02 PM

12. Yates as AG? dreaming here

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Response to irisblue (Reply #12)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 03:35 PM

16. are you joining me in dreaming of AG Yates

or are you calling me an idiot?

Either is fine ...just trying to make sure I understand

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Response to Fresh_Start (Reply #16)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 10:02 PM

54. I respect how professionally Yates was in leaving her post.

I'd be much happier with her as AG then the last 2.

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Response to Fresh_Start (Reply #9)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 03:11 PM

13. Would not want Harris or Warren as VP. They are more valuable as senators.

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Response to Sneederbunk (Reply #13)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 03:31 PM

15. Actually Harris and Warren about both guaranteed to be replaced with Democratic Senators

Sherrod Brown's seat is probably only 50% chance of being succeeded by a democratic senator, so based on whose more valuable as a senator, that would argue that Brown shouldn't run for higher office.

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Response to Fresh_Start (Reply #15)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 04:06 PM

22. Brown's seat would almost certainly flip to red

He would still be a great presidential candidate, but just saying.

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Response to Sneederbunk (Reply #13)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 04:17 PM

23. There are lots of excellent Dems waiting in the wings in CA

to be our next Senator. We can afford for Harris to be President.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 03:01 PM

11. If you want Brown as Pres, or even VP, you better get lots more Senators elected from other states

people, cause if he wins either post then a GOP Gov gets to name his replacement,
there is no rule or law in OH that the replacement must be of the same party
We can't with the White House without winning the senate
If don't win the Senate we get no SCOTUS nominations, judges or anything because of McConnell.

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Response to TeamPooka (Reply #11)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 03:28 PM

14. Right

Who replaces Sherrod Brown in the Senate? Not enough people are thinking about that.

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Response to ibegurpard (Reply #14)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 03:48 PM

19. The fairly recent new state Dem leader-David Pepper is building a bench.

There are some good examples & potentials here, State Rep David Leland, Ohio 22nd district in C-bus, Rep Joyce Beatty Ohio 3rd CD, has a safe seat here in C-bus, State Rep Kristin Boggs, Ohio 18th, nice legislative record. There are up and comers.

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Response to TeamPooka (Reply #11)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 07:24 AM

73. See Post 57. (nt)

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Response to TeamPooka (Reply #11)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 08:32 AM

76. I think that's possible

Of course there is no way to predict what events will transpire in the next 20+ months... however, if Mr. Trump continues to alienate people and the GOP does NOT distance themselves from him the Democrats have a shot at it.

There are 22 senate seats up for re-election, and Lamar Alexander of TN has decided he won't run. With no incumbent I think the Dems could have a shot at his seat.

I think Susan Collins of ME may have pissed off enough people (over Kavanaugh) that her seat might be get-able.

I don't know how popular Cory Gardner is, but if Trump continues to be unpopular Colorado could be in play. And I think Arizona could be in play as well.

It's all about getting out the vote.


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Response to TeamPooka (Reply #11)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 10:07 AM

82. Agree, but he could have coattails in otherwise difficult states.

Any idea what R senators are up in mid-west states where we have a good shot at picking them off, if we have a great Prez ticket that brings our people out in those states?

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 03:41 PM

17. Since she had to pass on him for VP because-Ohio, BROWN-Hillary would be fantastic!

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 03:47 PM

18. Another Qualified Candidate

Makes me think the President/Vice President combination of Democrats will make Republicans seem shallow.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 04:06 PM

21. I am hoping he goes for it. I think he is our best shot to take the White House.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 04:20 PM

25. He's used to being on tv a lot too.

And can answer any reporter's question while sounding reasonable and even friendly.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 04:21 PM

26. I'm keeping an open mind.....nt

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 04:31 PM

28. I don't know. I have concerns about him.

But Ohio is important, that's true.

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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #28)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 09:23 PM

51. What are your concerns? nt

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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #28)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 10:04 PM

55. Do tell please?

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 04:53 PM

30. Brown is my Senator. He's a great guy. I would hate to see him leave his Senate job because he

is one of the only bright spots in mostly RWNJ Ohio. Those Repugs down state have their heads in the 1950’s and up their asses at the same time. But I would also love to see him run.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 04:57 PM

31. I vote for Sherrod everytime he's on my ballot.

A very solid progressive and a good man.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 05:20 PM

32. I haven't made up my mind yet

and I won't until I hear more from all the candidates. I like Sherrod Brown a lot, though.

I'll support any real Democrat (as opposed to a temporary one) in the General except for Tulsi Gabbard, who'll be an early dropout anyway, so I'm not worried about that.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 05:31 PM

34. Sherrod Brown started his career in 1975

As a State Representative for Ohio.
He was a guest speaker at my little country High School in 1976 as the youngest state rep ever in Ohio. Only the senior class was invited (which included my big sister), I remember how much I really wanted to go. He has consistently been a voice for the middle class, my dad, who was a steelworker his entire life, Loved Sherrod. I hope i get to cast a vote for him for President.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 07:53 PM

40. Can we afford to lose that senate seat?

What are the odds on keeping the seat if Brown steps up?

Any dem should be able to beat either of them. If we bother to do our own careful vetting and if we are willing to unite behind a single dem.

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Response to quakerboy (Reply #40)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 10:19 PM

57. Ohio is NOT a resign to run state. Sen Brown is not legally required to give up his seat.

He won in 2018, the seat would be up if Brown won in 20, but Brown, doesn't have to run for Senate till 24. This actually is the best timing for him. If Brown wins POTUS/VPOTUS, the GOP gov would appoint a gop-er undoubtedly till the next election in 24, & that true asshole Portman would become senior senator. Sen Brown took the seat from the current gop gov-DeWine.

The newish state Dem Party chair, David Pepper, is building a bench in this reddish purple state.

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Response to irisblue (Reply #57)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 07:20 AM

71. Good to know. Thanks. (nt)

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Response to irisblue (Reply #57)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 10:04 AM

81. Still we would need to find a replacement win to get & keep the Senate in 2020.

I am all for Sherrod - he is #1 on my list at the moment - but we should recognize we need to pick up another Senate seat to replace him, since when he wins the Prez race, his seat will become GOP until at least 2024.

On the flip side, with his mid-west cred, he has the potential of a coattails effect that might help pick up another seat in a normally difficult state. (not sure what that would be at the moment, might need to consult Nate Silver or others)

We need to be looking at who can run for Senate in those potential coattail states, to make up the seat.

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Response to irisblue (Reply #57)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 06:17 PM

115. So we will lose this seat if Brown is the nominee and wins

That is a negative

I really like Brown butworry about the Senate

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #115)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 06:26 PM

116. The current Ohio gov is the man Brown took the seat from in 06.

A hard core right winger-Mike DeWine.

Are there other Senate seats you can see flipping in 20?

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Response to irisblue (Reply #57)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 06:56 PM

117. So we would lose the seat

At least temporarily, if Brown won the presidency.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 07:54 PM

42. He looks very good to me.

And I was lucky enough to meet him and to hear him talk. He wasn't campaigning and he wasn't there to impress all of us.

The occasion was to thank his donors for our support during the last Senate race.

He is intelligent, funny, low-keyed and extremely knowledgeable about American issues.

He is seriously considering running and I would be proud to support him if he does.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 09:22 PM

50. Yes, I especially like "and when he speaks, everyone can understand his positions, his beliefs, ..."

his values."

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 10:18 PM

56. He's a favorite of mine

Definitely ahead of some of them.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2019, 11:23 PM

63. He's my guy

I really like Brown. Thanks for the post. He is the real deal and I hope he gets some traction among Democrats.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 05:34 AM

69. Like him, but would his voice be up to national campaigning?

When I watched him the other day it sounded weak, as if it was giving out, but perhaps that's not the case?

I'm wondering as perhaps a VP from "the heartland." He's voted with Trump on some trade issues, which might be a plus in the running mate.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 05:46 AM

70. I had hoped he was HRC running mate in 2016. No bad reflection on Kane, tho. I like him too.

 

Brown may have a better chance now on the ticket in first or second. Biden/Brown? Warren/Brown? Brown/Warren?

Trump has poisoned so many voters with hate, it's going to be tough no matter what. The new tax law may give us alll the help we need after April. There are lots of folks who suddenly realize thay have been lied to. They ignored the lies before but it's personal now.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 07:44 AM

74. It's not just Ohio

Brown’s Midwest bona fides could extend to other Midwestern (post-) industrial states such as Michigan and Wisconsin, and beyond—and that’s where we “lost” last time.

I’m not assuming that anti-Trump sentiment and its counter-policy correlates will be enough to overcome the bizarre electoral barriers that exist. We can’t just win the popular vote (alas). And I worry somewhat about a “coastal elites” factor.

On the other hand, will Brown be able to reawaken the minority vote that lagged somewhat in the last election?

As far as I see it, you’ve either got to get the working class vote or a mega-minority vote to win this thing. Preferably both. That means that right now, there are three candidates I’m looking at closely. Brown is definitely one of those.

Fearing loss of his Senate seat in Ohio is not a compelling reason to discount him.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 08:03 AM

75. He's not in the back of my mind

He's front and center.

To be fair, I like all of the candidates thus far. It's just that I do understand the importance of winning OH.

If Klobuchar announces, she'd be a get too as I don't think we should automatically assume the Dems will take MN.

Otherwise, the other candidates thus far do not give us anything in the Electoral College that we don't already have.

Besides, Brown IS smart and he CAN present his arguments in a way that can rally people to his positions.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 09:34 AM

77. I've always preferred Sherrod

I've been impressed with him for years, after seeing him on TV talk shows. He's Liberal, Pro-Labor, totally unpretentious and down-to-earth and, most importantly, from Ohio which would help gain the Mid-West "rust belt" states.

I would like to see him run with Kamala Harris. She comes across brilliantly, and would get the women's and black votes.

I think if Hillary had selected him for VP, she would have won!

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Response to connecticut yankee (Reply #77)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 10:51 AM

85. I agree. A Hillary/Brown ticket would have won big

Even with all the voter suppression, Russian interference, and every other swinish Republican tactic for stealing elections, a Hillary/Brown ticket would have put her in the White House. And we wouldn't have to be suffering the incredible insanity that has gone on for two plus years, complements of Trump and the GOP.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 10:11 AM

83. He is a good addition.

So many good choices. I'm still leaning towards Kamala though.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 10:58 AM

88. I worry we still need some kind of rock star

I don't like to say it out loud, but people are stupid.

We need someone who can motivate people to go out and vote in the first place, because, frankly...
people stay home these days even when our lives are on the line.

Because smart just doesn't work any more. Not for the general public.

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Response to imavoter (Reply #88)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 11:02 AM

89. After the bombast of Drumpf, a Sherrod Brown persona might BE a "rock star"

Someone who makes people feel more comfortable and secure. Someone they feel isn't bullshitting them like that guy they are so tired of.

I don't know. Just think when people are sick and tired of a style that has proven to be a cover for lies and fraud, they might welcome the exact opposite. Like a breath of fresh air.

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Response to MH1 (Reply #89)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 11:14 AM

92. I hear you...but

that's my point.

I'm around all kind of people all the time, and if you look at the stats...
let's say you are at the grocery store or the mall.. Most of those people didn't vote.
According to the voting polls, most people aren't even paying attention.

Obama had a rock star quality, that frankly, thank god he had one.

I hope I'm wrong.

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Response to MH1 (Reply #89)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 12:51 PM

99. Here's the secret to being a "rock star" in a post Trump world

If you want to be heard, whisper.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 11:16 AM

93. Brown/Harris. nt

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Response to Ilsa (Reply #93)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 12:55 PM

100. I would vote for that ticket too n/t

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 11:35 AM

96. Sherrod's Zappa cred is head and shoulders above everybody else!!

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 01:12 PM

102. He's great. I've phone banked for his campaigns several times.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 01:28 PM

105. He's a Winner

 

With Sherrod Brown at the top of the ticket the Dems win Ohio, MI, PA, Wi, NY, NJ, CT, RI, VT, MD, VA, DE, MA, VA,
DC, MN, OR,CA, NM and IL. That's 277 Electoral votes - enough to win. No other candidate can make that claim.

AZ, NC and FL would also be in Play.

I was thinking that Amy Klobucher would be the perfect running mate but now have doubts given the news about her this week.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 01:35 PM

106. He reminds me of Gary Hart ..

and Gary hart would have won the nomination but was caught in a trap set by Republicans

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 02:27 PM

109. Brown/Klobuchar. Or vice versa. nt

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 06:12 PM

113. I like Brown a great deal

His only negative is that he wins, we will lose that senate seat

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