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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMEMORIZE these economic facts! (updated with profits, wages, & defense spending)
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Bush started with a $128 billion SURPLUS & ended with a $1.4 trillion DEFICIT. Obama was handed that spending during the worst GLOBAL economic collapse in 100 years.
* $600 billion in deficit reduction since Bush's last budget.
* Lowest spending increases since Eisenhower.
* 30 months of private sector job growth, including small businesses.
* 35% of American companies are now hiring.
* Construction is on the rise.
* Record corporate profits & Wall Street values. They sit on $3.6 trillion in cash.
* More millionaires and billionaires every year.
* Lowest real tax rates on the rich since 1928.
* 21 new tax cuts for middle-class families.
* 18 new tax cuts for small businesses.
* First growth in manufacturing sectors in 30 years.
* Americans #1 in worker productivity.
* Household debt reduced by half-a-trillion.
* Gas prices peaked at $4.12 under Bush.
And:
* Obama has proposed $4 trillion in additional debt reduction, but the GOP have blocked him.
* Republicans partisanship in Congress is the primary reason for the downgrade of USA's credit rating.
* Romney has said military spending is off-limits for cutting ($683.7 billion in 2010)
But there's a 8% unemployment rate still, right? That's in large part due to the 700,000 government jobs that have been cut, including States cutting 230,000 teachers and 130,000 police/emergency responders.
* 7.5 million jobs were lost in 2008 and 2009. Expecting a quick recovery of equal magnitude is irrational.
* Historically, Democratic presidents have created jobs at a faster rate than Republicans (2m/y vs 1m/y).
* 2.8 million jobs have been added in the last 18 months.
* We're in a recovery, thanks to Obama.
We need more trickle down?
* CorpUSA and the 1% are sitting on $3.6 trillion cash.
* Wages & household income continues to drop in spite of record corporate profits
The overall argument we need to make: The GOP are peddling the wrong kind of (failed) capitalism. It's time to divest from Wall Street and the finance markets. It's time America return to Main Street and manufacturing. As long as we let the finance sector dominate our economy, it's just a matter of time before the society completely collapses.
TOTAL JOB GAIN/LOSS

PRIVATE SECTOR EMPLOYMENT SINCE 2008

BUSH DEFICIT VS OBAMA DEFICIT

SLOWEST SPENDING SINCE EISENHOWER


CORPORATE PROFITS
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WAGES AS PERCENTAGE OF THE ECONOMY

POVERTY LEVELS


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MILITARY SPENDING IS OVER $1 TRILLION A YEAR

SOURCES:
http://www.businessinsider.com/politics-economics-facts-charts-2012-6?op=1
http://articles.marketwatch.com/2012-05-22/commentary/31802270_1_spending-federal-budget-drunken-sailor
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-04-26/small-business-job-creation-is-stronger-than-we-think
http://www.bizjournals.com/bizjournals/on-numbers/scott-thomas/2011/08/86-of-top-100-markets-add.html
http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/CP
http://teachingwithdata.blogspot.com/2012/06/over-third-of-american-companies-are.html
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2011/09/02/public-sector-losses-continue-to-drive-poor-jobs-numbers
http://money.cnn.com/2010/04/14/news/economy/recovery_act_jobs/index.htm
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/21/business/worldbusiness/21iht-admin.4.18853088.html
http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/story/2011-11-06/federal-borrowing-rises-sharply/51097800/1
http://www.brookings.edu/blogs/jobs/posts/2012/08/03-jobs-greenstone-looney
http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2009/02/06/ray-of-light-u-s-corporate-worker-productivity-continues-to-r/
http://tucsoncitizen.com/usa-today-news/2011/11/06/federal-borrowing-up-household-debt-shrinks/
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/21/business/worldbusiness/21iht-admin.4.18853088.html
http://www.peri.umass.edu/236/hash/b3c8228599526db24002f4a6d38369c1/publication/490/
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/dec/14/executive-pay-increase-america-ceos
http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2011/12/10/number-of-the-week-finances-share-of-economy-continues-to-grow/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/22/super-rich-offshore-havens_n_1692608.html
http://www.factcheck.org/2012/06/obamas-spending-inferno-or-not/
http://www.governing.com/blogs/by-the-numbers/public-private-sector-cuts-during-recession-by-state.html
http://campaignstops.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/08/22/has-obama-made-the-job-situation-worse/
http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/Historicals
http://teachingwithdata.blogspot.com/2012/07/construction-spending-rises-slowly.html
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904265504576568543968213896.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/household-income-is-below-recession-levels-report-says/2012/08/23/aa497460-ec80-11e1-a80b-9f898562d010_story.html
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HappyMe
(20,277 posts)I have this bookmarked. Good job, Cab.
CabCurious
(954 posts)Lone_Star_Dem
(28,158 posts)Is about to send us spiraling into to another recession.
We need to drive that one home!
CabCurious
(954 posts)They continue to pin the economic crisis on Obama and continue to argue for trickle-down.
Lone_Star_Dem
(28,158 posts)I've bookmarked your main link and am printing out the page.
Great information!
SalviaBlue
(3,109 posts)rec.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)jimlup
(8,010 posts)I'll need this link for later reference~!
CabCurious
(954 posts)We can certainly expect a heated debate in the coming weeks about the 2013 budgets.
Blanks
(4,835 posts)Federal government growth as a percent increase from the previous year.
Actually the data would be good (I have a spreadsheet I'd like to put it in) ideally both data and a graph from at least 1981, preferably from 1913.
Does anyone have a link to that information. I expect a spike in 2009 (Dubya's last budget).
CabCurious
(954 posts)
That's the cumulative data. I've seen the annual breakdown, but not in a chart (yet).
2008: $2.98 trillion
2009: $3.27 trillion
2010: $3.46 trillion
2011: $3.60 trillion
2012: $3.65 trillion
2013: $3.58/$3.72 trillion (estimated)
?uuid=c49a7602-a379-11e1-827e-002128049ad6Blanks
(4,835 posts)I assume that's the stimulus program.
CabCurious
(954 posts)And there's also a spike in government jobs in 2010, due to census hiring. A similar drop is seen afterwards.
CabCurious
(954 posts)http://articles.marketwatch.com/2012-05-22/commentary/31802270_1_spending-federal-budget-drunken-sailor
2009 (+) 17.9% (bush's final budget)
2010 (-) 1.8%
2011 (+) 4.3%
2012 (+) 0.7%
2013 (-) 1.3%
Just as I expected. Bush kicked up federal spending over 1/6th in his final year in office. Obamas first budget as president actually decreased the budget (if I'm reading that right).
I get tired of people whining about Obama's deficit spending. All of Obama's budget increases combined for his first term probably won't equal the dollar increase in Bush's last budget.
Thanks again.
CabCurious
(954 posts)Meanwhile, CorpUSA is doing better than ever...
Loudestlib
(980 posts)I wish more people cared about facts.
CabCurious
(954 posts)Even here, people would rather argue about Julian Assange than learn about and talk about the economy.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Lucky Luciano
(11,864 posts)Blue Belle
(5,912 posts)It will come in handy when I get into a facebook flame war with my idiot relatives.
CabCurious
(954 posts)Stuart G
(38,726 posts)eaglesfanintn
(82 posts)I have some nut jobs who blather on and on about deficits and debts being run up under President Obama. Nice to have some data to back up my side. Not that they'll believe anything that Faux Noise didn't tell them, but it's worth a shot.
riverbendviewgal
(4,396 posts)The nature and frequency of filibusters has changed since then, and what politicians think of them often depends on who is in power. In 2009 and 2010, with Democrats in control of the Senate, Republicans launched a record number of filibusters, forcing more than 90 cloture votes, which require 60 senators to agree to limit debate on a measure before it can move to a vote. Republicans said they often had no choice since Democratic leaders denied them the opportunity to offer amendments to legislation more than 40 times.
In December 2010, frustrated by routine filibusters and other procedural blockades, Senate Democrats urged their leadership to negotiate with Republicans to change the rules that govern how the Senate does business. A number of them proposed requiring senators to remain on the floor of the chamber during a filibuster, a step that would likely to have dramatically shortened them. They also called
In January, negotiations between the parties led to an agreement that it seemed could cut the length of time senators would be allowed to impose anonymous objections against bills and nominations. Another change would exempt hundreds of less senior executive branch nominees from Senate confirmation votes. And Senators would also bar opponents of legislation from being able to require the reading of lengthy amendments to consume time and block votes.
CabCurious
(954 posts)rrneck
(17,671 posts)And tweeters and Facebook liked and all that other stuff.
CabCurious
(954 posts)CORPORATE PROFITS

PROFIT PER DOLLAR OF SALES

WAGES AS PERCENT OF THE ECONOMY

http://www.businessinsider.com/politics-economics-facts-charts-2012-6?op=1
CabCurious
(954 posts)We've turned away from the kind of capitalism that once worked: manufacturing and middle class growth.
Today's America is all about finance games and CEOs who hop from company to company with no intention on staying.
Selatius
(20,441 posts)What used to be made in the United States has been outsourced because a living wage has become "too expensive" to the bottom line of Wall Street bankers and businessmen. Better to have a Chinese worker doing the same task for 60 cents an hour instead. The wonders of free trade or, as I like to call it, "global labor arbitrage."
CabCurious
(954 posts)We're still #1 in productivity.
Our CEOs get paid 300-400:1 against average workers. China CEOs make $180,000.
Japan = 11:1
Germany = 12:1
France = 15:1
Italy = 20:1
Canada = 20:1
Britain = 22:1 (I checked those ratios, they are not the incorrect ones that went around facebook a year ago)
When we consider the financial implications of this, especially with CEOs being so disinterested in long-term strength of companies, we can see that it's really not the cost of American workers that's the underlying problem.
Selatius
(20,441 posts)Henry Ford knew about it. That's why he tried to pay decent wages to his workers. He understood that workers were also consumers, and the best way to keep things going for everybody was to ensure that workers were paid enough to afford the products they were making with their own hands.
With the current track America is taking with respect to free trade, out-sourcing, etc., we're going to end up a country with a very small middle class, an even smaller class of financial elites, and a gigantic underclass of working poor and unemployed people.
CabCurious
(954 posts)I'm just not sure free trade per se is inherently a problem.
I believe that we can have win-win free trade with other nations that aren't as wealthy as us, even if it means short-term risk in terms of job growth. The same insight Ford had about his own workers applies to growing a middle class here. And I think it goes for the whole planet, too. The problem thus isn't the trading, it's the "free" part. When we're making such arrangements where there are no labor standards, no long-term growth of a middle class, living wage, education, women's rights, etc... then it's definitely not win-win. But for every case where I think jobs have shifted from the USA to a foreign manufacturer, I'd still say that it's still a CEOs values decision.
Rarely is it black/white that an American company MUST go out of business if it won't out-source or off-shore labor.
And perhaps sometimes it would be better if the company just went out of business...
CabCurious
(954 posts)I need to dig up some more charts and sources on this angle.
CabCurious
(954 posts)* 35% of American companies are now hiring.
* Construction is up.
* The trade deficit is improving
* Wages continue to sink in spite of record profits
WAGES AS PERCENTAGE OF THE ECONOMY

CORPORATE PROFITS AT ALL-TIME HIGHS




CabCurious
(954 posts)We apparently actually spend $1.2 TRILLION a year on defense, including war debts and nuclear weapons maintenance.
I'm not sure precisely how accurate these charts are, but the don't seem completely off the mark.


http://www.tomdispatch.com/archive/175361/
http://www.warresisters.org/pages/piechart.htm
http://defense.aol.com/2012/03/16/the-military-imbalance-how-the-u-s-outspends-the-world/
http://www.usfederalbudget.us/spending_chart_2002_2017USb_13s1li111lcn_30t