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Sun Feb 10, 2019, 05:45 PM

So when did the US adopt Napoleonic Code of Justice for American males?

Because that is where we have come.

If a man is accused of sexual impropriety, he is automatically assumed to be guilty and is so judged in the court of public opinion. His life and reputation are destroyed, no matter if a there is ever a real trial and he is found not guilty.

If he's black, no matter his age, he's automatically guilty of something and just might get shot and killed by cops, because he "resisted" or ran or something. Or he's probably a hyper-sexual predator. Or just a "thug".

We USED to be the party that believed in the presumption of innocence, but not anymore.

Benjamin Franklin said “it is better a hundred guilty persons should escape than one innocent person should suffer”, but that certainly does not apply any more.

Finally, where do men go to get their reputations and good name restored, once they have judged guilty by the mob?

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Reply So when did the US adopt Napoleonic Code of Justice for American males? (Original post)
MicaelS Feb 2019 OP
bdamomma Feb 2019 #1
Sherman A1 Feb 2019 #2
Sneederbunk Feb 2019 #3
Hortensis Feb 2019 #4
wryter2000 Feb 2019 #8
KT2000 Feb 2019 #5
wryter2000 Feb 2019 #6
yardwork Feb 2019 #7
Volaris Feb 2019 #9
boston bean Feb 2019 #10

Response to MicaelS (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 05:47 PM

1. K&R

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Response to MicaelS (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 05:58 PM

2. Agreed

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Response to MicaelS (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 05:59 PM

3. Fairfax has not been criminally charged. He is not in a court of law.

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Response to MicaelS (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 06:12 PM

4. Respectfully, very mistaken. The legal system, with its

duties related to due process, is NOT involved in either case. Our liberal republic's constitutional law does not apply to private parties, Napoleonic law does not apply, and even Sharia law does not apply.

Mr. Fairfax has now asked the FBI to investigate, which would involve the federal government, but it is unclear if the FBI will. Initiation of formal impeachment hearings in the VA legislature would occur within VA's laws, and allow the state to conduct an investigation if needed, but it is unclear if that will happen.

The people calling for resignations, right or wrong, or right and wrong, are private politicians and groups who seek to neutralize colleagues who have been weaponized by Republicans to use against Democrats. They all know it could be them another time -- truth is irrelevant.

The political parties once had a semi gentleman's "do unto others as you would have..." mutual protection agreement. That's been over for some while, as all those targeted by the Republicans understand very well.

Increasingly over the last 30 years, as Republicans realized their survival as a party required becoming more representative of an advancing culture, they have instead chosen a different course: replacement of all prior principles with a ruthless determination to overthrow democracy in order to rule our nation under their right-wing authoritarian government.

That's what's happening here. For all the important issues involved on our side, for them their attacks are all to further their plan to strip the citizenry of the power to stop them. If they had kept control of the house in the midterms, it might have been too late to stop them then. As it is, 2020 will decide.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #4)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 06:32 PM

8. Wow, what you said

"Increasingly over the last 30 years, as Republicans realized their survival as a party required becoming more representative of an advancing culture, they have instead chosen a different course: replacement of all prior principles with a ruthless determination to overthrow democracy in order to rule our nation under their right-wing authoritarian government. "

That's it exactly.

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Response to MicaelS (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 06:16 PM

5. the Washington Post

investigated the first claim against Fairfax and decided against publishing.
The WP has demonstrated that journalists are capable of parsing out some facts. Shouldn't that be at least the minimum required before throwing people overboard?
It does not serve men or women if there is not a system of fairness to all concerned. Accusations should not be used as weapons against anyone. Some kind of process needs to be developed to handle such things.

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Response to MicaelS (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 06:29 PM

6. Presumption of innocence

is for trails. No one here would want Fairfax to be imprisoned without a trial.

There's a different standard to judge whether someone is fit for public office.

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Response to MicaelS (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 06:30 PM

7. Is Hillary Clinton male? When did we decide to wait before judging her?

What about Amy Klubacher?

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Response to yardwork (Reply #7)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 09:06 PM

9. Oh, her time in the barrel is coming, and that right soon...

Mark my words. The ratfuckings are going to be pornhub-level for the next cycle.
We need to be READY.

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Response to MicaelS (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 09:46 PM

10. No. The statements and credibility of them are taken into consideration.

And if deemed credible one is asked to step aside.

This is not a court of law where he is facing jail time.

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