Is this budget deal a sign that Trump is toast?

[Dread Pirate Roberts]

Is this the indicator that the Republicans have come to the conclusion that Trump is is going down? They know he's history and they aren't going to stay on the sinking SS Trumptanic? I don't know. They sure have come to the conclusion that his wall just isn't getting built. He's going to hold his breath, he's going to fall on the floor and kick and stomp his feet and the tweets are going to be horrific. But he's not getting his way and congressional republicans aren't going to bat for him. They're willing to put up with the tantrum because they know it's all going to be over soon-they know the end is neigh. Just a thought.

The other part of this is the whole "it's a big win" or "it's a big loss" narrative. How about the right thing is getting done? Maybe it isn't a win for one side or the other. Maybe it's just that the Democrats are back in the driver's seat and we're finally going to get some governing?

[walkingman]

1. The GOP will never abandon Trump - he is their God and exemplifies their philosophy.

Anyone that thinks he is out of step with standard GOP ideology has not been paying attention for the last 40 years.

[customerserviceguy]

12. Agreed

Trump doesn't have to succeed 100% for his base to stay with him, he just has to be seen as always trying to get as much as he can. His supporters never had so much going their way ever before in their lifetimes, certainly not when the Bushes were in the White House.

Faux Snooze makes damn good and sure that the Democratic alternative is presented as being far worse than Trump's worst day in office. He may not be able to ram anything through a Congress that is hostile, but he still has all the mighty powers invested in the executive branch. And, he's one SCOTUS justice away from essentially full control of the judicial branch. That will keep them in the fold.

[ooky]

14. Except they have others that exemplify their philosophies that they may

decide are more electable as we approach 2020. If their billionaires start getting concerned about being able to keep their tax cuts.

[Wellstone ruled]

2. Next week should be interesting.

No one is going to rile Donnie of Stupid in the mean time.

[COL Mustard]

3. I Hope He's Toast

I have butter and some nice strawberry jam. Just need something to spread it around and then drop it on the floor.

[BumRushDaShow]

5. I'm sorry but

I had to -

[COL Mustard]

6. Thank You!!

[Bleacher Creature]

4. No, it's an indicator that they're terrified of another shutdown.

They very well may have concluded that he's toast, but that's not what's driving them on this bill.

[Johnny2X2X]

7. Maybe

But they didn't even try to get some wall funding. This deal is less than what they agreed to in December. They got nothing for Trump, why?

[Dread Pirate Roberts]

8. That's exactly what piqued my interest

They caved really easily. They still have the Senate and they still have the White House. Yet they pretty much gave in with only a bone thrown their way. There's no way they agree and then allow a shut down. I think Trump's spell on them is fading. The rats are the first ones to sense the ship is going down.

[Volaris]

10. Because they know Nancy isn't gonna give it to them, and if they insist and shut down the govt again

The American people WILL blame THEM, and stomp all over their ballz in the next election (again) and they don't want that....Trump and his wall can go to hell in a handbasket, if it means not getting re elected.

[Johnny2X2X]

15. I think they laid down because of Trump

They put up zero fight, they could have gotten something, anything out of it, instead they will be putting on his desk something worse for them than the deal they put on his desk in December. And I think that's a part of this, they had a deal that Trump had agreed to in principle and they sent it to his desk only to get stabbed in the back after Trump called Hannity and Coulter.

The deal they agreed to was a way of them saying FU to Trump.

[Volaris]

16. I would also accept this, as likely.

[ooky]

13. Because Pelosi isn't giving Trump a

damn thing.

And Republicans don't have any leverage for a wall.

[Awsi Dooger]

9. Stay away from Happy Adjustment

It doesn't work and is the worst way to think.

Fortunately there are far fewer assertions around here that Trump will either leave office early or be forced out of office early or be defeated in the primary.

All of those are examples of Happy Adjustment...ignoring base normalcy by placing far too much reliance on recent news or what someone prefers to believe.

An incumbent will serve 4 years. An incumbent will be nominated again. That incumbent will be hellish to defeat.

And as long as that incumbent is stuck at 40% approval or thereabouts, the new young voters will trend Democratic and remain there throughout their lives. That aspect allows me to remain content toward where we are headed down the road, and to ignore short term Happy Adjustment.

[bullwinkle428]

11. NO! Do not write his political obituary until he's out of office or behind bars.