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Via this Fordham Law professor.
Mueller may be choosing not to press certain federal charges, because of this:
Link to tweet
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ProudMNDemocrat
(16,783 posts)And Trumpy will not be able to do anything about it.
empedocles
(15,751 posts)tclambert
(11,085 posts)kag
(4,079 posts)Jarqui
(10,122 posts)I'd been struggling to figure out how they could nail Stone if Trump pardoned him.
They've got Manafort with his financial crimes.
NY Daily News:Alex Jones, Roger Stone hit shooting range to prepare for civil war they say would break out if Trump is removed
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/alex-jones-rogers-stone-hit-gun-range-prepare-civil-war-article-1.3715575
Roger is one sick phuck. He belongs behind bars after a lifetime of dirty tricks and crime.
bluestarone
(16,900 posts)It would be like the BEST energy drink to make it through the whole year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
dalton99a
(81,433 posts)triron
(21,994 posts)Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)You don't get to where he is, have the undying admiration and respect that he has from his peers and staff, and be able to maintain that spotless reputation for decades, without being brilliant.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)FakeNoose
(32,620 posts)MBS
(9,688 posts)This 2-3 year nightmare has turned me into a bundle of perpetual anxiety, so your reminder is extra welcome: YEAH, I know where I'm placing MY bets.
mjvpi
(1,388 posts)Tax breaks alone, theyre up a trillion to nothing.
MFGsunny
(2,356 posts)oxbow
(2,034 posts)No evidence in this tweet that state charges are pending, but Im still glad that legal experts think its possible based on how things are playing out
mercuryblues
(14,530 posts)That gets them in for talking. After what Stone did today, he will be lucky if he is not in jail by the end of the week. Watch to see if he adds charges on. At some point he will refer charges to a state court. Which will be pardon proof. If trump does pardon him for federal crimes, Stone can be forced to testify. He can not take the 5th because of the pardon, no worries about incriminating himself. if I were Stone I would stay away from windows.
onecaliberal
(32,814 posts)Calista241
(5,586 posts)Wikileaks already had the information from the Russians when Stone reached out. Regular news outlets were reporting on these emails as fast as they could. My understanding was that Stone was possibly getting advance notice of what was coming out when. He then lied about it to Congress, saying he couldn't get any info.
I'm thinking the aiding and abetting is a bit of a reach, but it couldn't happen to a nicer guy than Roger Stone.
IluvPitties
(3,181 posts)ffr
(22,668 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(15,568 posts)NY still has that crazy double jeopardy law on the books...so Trump could pardon anyone for federal crimes they haven't even been charged with, and NY law wouldn't allow them to be charged.
Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)a 2nd degree offense there is a presumption of imprisonment, even for a 1st offender. Consider it on the same level as some aggravated assaults with serious bodily injury, some Sex assaults and theft of more than $75,000. Computer hacking is a very serious offense.
BootinUp
(47,138 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)California_Republic
(1,826 posts)czarjak
(11,266 posts)hughee99
(16,113 posts)I wish it were true.
flying_wahini
(6,588 posts)I would be shocked, shocked I tell you, If Meuller isnt 150 steps ahead of Trumps gang.
dlk
(11,541 posts)I'm not aware of anything resembling Club Fed in state systems.