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Mon Feb 18, 2019, 07:54 PM

 

Legal expert: Mueller may have a pardon-proof surprise for Roger Stone and Donald Trump

Via this Fordham Law professor.

Mueller may be choosing not to press certain federal charges, because of this:

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Reply Legal expert: Mueller may have a pardon-proof surprise for Roger Stone and Donald Trump (Original post)
Yosemito Feb 2019 OP
ProudMNDemocrat Feb 2019 #1
empedocles Feb 2019 #3
tclambert Feb 2019 #14
kag Feb 2019 #21
Jarqui Feb 2019 #2
bluestarone Feb 2019 #4
dalton99a Feb 2019 #5
triron Feb 2019 #6
Haggis for Breakfast Feb 2019 #8
smirkymonkey Feb 2019 #7
FakeNoose Feb 2019 #9
MBS Feb 2019 #11
mjvpi Feb 2019 #13
MFGsunny Feb 2019 #22
oxbow Feb 2019 #10
mercuryblues Feb 2019 #20
onecaliberal Feb 2019 #12
Calista241 Feb 2019 #15
IluvPitties Feb 2019 #16
ffr Feb 2019 #17
Fiendish Thingy Feb 2019 #18
Pepsidog Feb 2019 #19
BootinUp Feb 2019 #23
pangaia Feb 2019 #24
California_Republic Feb 2019 #25
czarjak Feb 2019 #26
hughee99 Feb 2019 #27
flying_wahini Feb 2019 #28
dlk Feb 2019 #29
Scurrilous Feb 2019 #30

Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2019, 07:56 PM

1. Cannot wait for the day for the shit to hit the fan.

And Trumpy will not be able to do anything about it.

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Response to ProudMNDemocrat (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 18, 2019, 08:12 PM

3. the 'day' or 'days', - and months to follow

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Response to ProudMNDemocrat (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 18, 2019, 09:25 PM

14. We're gonna need a bigger fan.

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Response to tclambert (Reply #14)

Mon Feb 18, 2019, 10:54 PM

21. Cause the shit is Yuuuuuge!

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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2019, 08:09 PM

2. I'm very glad to read this

I'd been struggling to figure out how they could nail Stone if Trump pardoned him.

They've got Manafort with his financial crimes.

NY Daily News:Alex Jones, Roger Stone hit shooting range to prepare for civil war they say would break out if Trump is removed
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/alex-jones-rogers-stone-hit-gun-range-prepare-civil-war-article-1.3715575

Roger is one sick phuck. He belongs behind bars after a lifetime of dirty tricks and crime.

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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2019, 08:19 PM

4. This would certainly be awesome!

It would be like the BEST energy drink to make it through the whole year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2019, 08:21 PM

5. Kick

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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2019, 08:29 PM

6. Mueller is clever.

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Response to triron (Reply #6)

Mon Feb 18, 2019, 08:49 PM

8. Mueller is BEYOND clever !

You don't get to where he is, have the undying admiration and respect that he has from his peers and staff, and be able to maintain that spotless reputation for decades, without being brilliant.

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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2019, 08:47 PM

7. K&R

 

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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2019, 08:51 PM

9. Mueller knows the law inside and out



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Response to FakeNoose (Reply #9)

Mon Feb 18, 2019, 08:59 PM

11. I really needed this - thanks!

This 2-3 year nightmare has turned me into a bundle of perpetual anxiety, so your reminder is extra welcome: YEAH, I know where I'm placing MY bets.

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Response to FakeNoose (Reply #9)

Mon Feb 18, 2019, 09:13 PM

13. I'm hoping you're right.

Tax breaks alone, theyíre up a trillion to nothing.

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Response to FakeNoose (Reply #9)

Mon Feb 18, 2019, 11:03 PM

22. Winner! Winner! You name the dinner (we all owe you for this one) n/t

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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2019, 08:55 PM

10. I've been spamming this solution everywhere I could

No evidence in this tweet that state charges are pending, but Iím still glad that legal experts think itís possible based on how things are playing out

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Response to oxbow (Reply #10)

Mon Feb 18, 2019, 10:04 PM

20. Mueller is very good at under charging

That gets them in for talking. After what Stone did today, he will be lucky if he is not in jail by the end of the week. Watch to see if he adds charges on. At some point he will refer charges to a state court. Which will be pardon proof. If trump does pardon him for federal crimes, Stone can be forced to testify. He can not take the 5th because of the pardon, no worries about incriminating himself. if I were Stone I would stay away from windows.


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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2019, 09:06 PM

12. You have no idea how much I needed this.

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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2019, 09:27 PM

15. From what I understand

Wikileaks already had the information from the Russians when Stone reached out. Regular news outlets were reporting on these emails as fast as they could. My understanding was that Stone was possibly getting advance notice of what was coming out when. He then lied about it to Congress, saying he couldn't get any info.

I'm thinking the aiding and abetting is a bit of a reach, but it couldn't happen to a nicer guy than Roger Stone.

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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2019, 09:29 PM

16. This will be a crazy summer for sure.

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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2019, 09:45 PM

17. Let's get it done!

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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2019, 09:48 PM

18. Well, there better be other states besides NY involved

NY still has that crazy double jeopardy law on the books...so Trump could pardon anyone for federal crimes they haven't even been charged with, and NY law wouldn't allow them to be charged.

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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2019, 09:50 PM

19. In my State NJ hacking a computer is a 2nd degree crime with 5-10 years in prison. Because it is

a 2nd degree offense there is a presumption of imprisonment, even for a 1st offender. Consider it on the same level as some aggravated assaults with serious bodily injury, some Sex assaults and theft of more than $75,000. Computer hacking is a very serious offense.

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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2019, 11:05 PM

23. Lock Them Up. Nt

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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2019, 11:18 PM

24. They GOTTA GET PENSE !!!!!!!!!

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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2019, 11:50 PM

25. Mueller, she wrote. - haha love it !

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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Tue Feb 19, 2019, 06:36 AM

26. He'll still plead not guilty.

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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Tue Feb 19, 2019, 08:36 AM

27. Unfortunately this sounds like fiction. Too bad,

I wish it were true.

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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Tue Feb 19, 2019, 09:15 AM

28. That would be great.


I would be shocked, shocked I tell you, If Meuller isnít 150 steps ahead of Trumps gang.

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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:04 PM

29. State Prisons Can be Harsher Environments than Federal Prisons

I'm not aware of anything resembling Club Fed in state systems.

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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Tue Feb 19, 2019, 06:49 PM

30. K&R

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