Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

sellitman

(11,745 posts)
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 02:53 PM Feb 2019

Bernie Sanders' campaign agenda

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by Yonnie3 (a host of the General Discussion forum).

Bernie Sanders’ campaign agenda

- Medicare4All
- Green New Deal/climate
- $15 min wage
- Criminal justice reform
- Free college
- Break up biggest banks
- Gender pay equity
- Paid leave
- ⬇ Drug prices
- Expand Social Security
- Save unions
- DREAM Act

As long as he is running as a Democrat and these are his priorities then I'm glad he is running. At the very least if these bullet points are adopted by whoever wins for our side I'll say his contribution is welcome.

He isn't my first choice but his platform is. Before voting for Clinton he was my first choice. Let him keep us turned left. I've had enough right Bullshit to last me a lifetime.

Have at me.

74 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Bernie Sanders' campaign agenda (Original Post) sellitman Feb 2019 OP
I don't see anything about women's reproductive rights there (but then, he thinks those are niyad Feb 2019 #1
? handmade34 Feb 2019 #3
Or civil rights crazytown Feb 2019 #4
+1000 ehrnst Feb 2019 #56
He does not. It was in the announcement message that got sent out: TCJ70 Feb 2019 #8
so, a change from the 2016 campaign? niyad Feb 2019 #11
From May 1st, 2016: TCJ70 Feb 2019 #13
From the head of NARAL: MrsCoffee Feb 2019 #63
Do we NOT support Democrats anymore? TCJ70 Feb 2019 #64
Yes, we support Democrats. Democrats are supposed to support the party platform. MrsCoffee Feb 2019 #65
Sounds like you have more of a problem with Mello than Bernie. TCJ70 Feb 2019 #66
I have a problem with Bernie saying we should accept anti-choice candidates into our fold. MrsCoffee Feb 2019 #67
Thanks for the great info sellitman Feb 2019 #17
I didn't think you were leaving anything out on purpose... TCJ70 Feb 2019 #22
and how do you explain this? niyad Feb 2019 #58
Was there another Democrat in the race at that point to support? TCJ70 Feb 2019 #60
because women's full reproductive rights are part of the Democratic party platform. niyad Feb 2019 #61
Doesn't sound like Bernie is. If you have beef with Mello take it up with him. As for a timeline: TCJ70 Feb 2019 #62
the tapdancing is amazing. niyad Feb 2019 #68
You're taking issue with Bernie for some other persons stances... TCJ70 Feb 2019 #69
hsi OWN actions and words, thank you very much. like I said, tapdancing. niyad Feb 2019 #70
From your NPR article: TCJ70 Feb 2019 #71
Actually DownriverDem Feb 2019 #23
All he would have to do safeinOhio Feb 2019 #28
Jeeze!! pangaia Feb 2019 #33
That's disingenuous. PTWB Feb 2019 #45
he's a known Male feminist. what do you think? PatrynXX Feb 2019 #40
Which Democratic candidates are on the Right? sweetloukillbot Feb 2019 #51
and how do you explain this? niyad Feb 2019 #59
The message is fine crazytown Feb 2019 #2
As someone who isn't the biggest fan of Sanders... WeekiWater Feb 2019 #5
Thanks. sellitman Feb 2019 #18
I am a part of that vitriol. WeekiWater Feb 2019 #20
No more and no less amazing than those who treat him as a sacred cow. LanternWaste Feb 2019 #29
yeah I know so bad I left for two years because of threats PatrynXX Feb 2019 #47
Just point out DownriverDem Feb 2019 #24
I don't like the way he uses the party. WeekiWater Feb 2019 #25
What in hell does that have to do with these issues? LiberalLovinLug Feb 2019 #30
If it walks like a duck, looks like a duck... mwooldri Feb 2019 #32
WHAT ! Really? Where did you hear that? pangaia Feb 2019 #34
Most of that is in the platform; we don't need Sanders. LongtimeAZDem Feb 2019 #6
He is also for getting rid of cash bail ZeroSomeBrains Feb 2019 #7
one of the most important reasons is missing from this list but cannot be mentioned nt msongs Feb 2019 #9
My view, as a Sanders supporter in the primary, guillaumeb Feb 2019 #10
You forgot to add.. honest.abe Feb 2019 #12
It's a total package for white males. apcalc Feb 2019 #14
Be careful...you're reading someone else' summation of the announcement. TCJ70 Feb 2019 #15
Sanders is too divisive Apollyonus Feb 2019 #16
The GOP "borrowed" and reinforced and amplified his rhetoric during the general election. NurseJackie Feb 2019 #19
Yes ... exactly Apollyonus Feb 2019 #31
I agree - him being in does help keep alive a great message mvd Feb 2019 #21
Personally, I don't think it's "a great message" when ... NurseJackie Feb 2019 #35
absolutely! NT Tumbulu Feb 2019 #38
This ... the Bernie is divisive little spoiler, was last time, will be again... NotHardly Feb 2019 #48
Looks like a subset of the 2016 Democratic Platform - most, if not all, are already in that document George II Feb 2019 #26
Jobs? Honeycombe8 Feb 2019 #27
Here is my campaign agenda (Sarcasm warning!) Apollyonus Feb 2019 #36
perfect! Tumbulu Feb 2019 #37
I have a Yeti on True Blue American Feb 2019 #39
Great group of True Blue American Feb 2019 #41
You forgot to ask for campaign donations. n/t TexasTowelie Feb 2019 #46
Good point Apollyonus Feb 2019 #50
Agreed on all points, thank you Arazi Feb 2019 #42
Bernie, old dude, says nothing about women's health & reproductive rights ... yeah, that's him & his NotHardly Feb 2019 #43
See post 8 TCJ70 Feb 2019 #49
Great list. jalan48 Feb 2019 #44
Nothing about voting rights?? NT Trumpocalypse Feb 2019 #52
Assuring Trump gets re-elected nt doc03 Feb 2019 #53
+1 sarcasmo Feb 2019 #73
Gun control?...nt SidDithers Feb 2019 #54
There is no perfect candidate sellitman Feb 2019 #57
He didn't "turn us left" Blue_Tires Feb 2019 #55
Any word on when Bernie is releasing his taxes? sarcasmo Feb 2019 #72
Locking ... Yonnie3 Feb 2019 #74

niyad

(132,440 posts)
1. I don't see anything about women's reproductive rights there (but then, he thinks those are
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 02:56 PM
Feb 2019

negotiable, does he not?).

handmade34

(24,017 posts)
3. ?
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 02:59 PM
Feb 2019

crazytown

(7,277 posts)
4. Or civil rights
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 03:01 PM
Feb 2019
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
56. +1000
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 07:09 PM
Feb 2019

TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
8. He does not. It was in the announcement message that got sent out:
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 03:06 PM
Feb 2019
I’m running for president because we must defend a woman’s right to control her own body against massive political attacks taking place at the local state and federal level.


You're just reading someone else' summation of the campaign...not some bullet point list from Sanders. I don't have an issues page to link to since I don't think that's up yet. But you can read the whole text of the statement here towards the bottom of the article:
https://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/story/news/politics/elections/2019/02/19/bernie-sanders-2020-presidential-campaign-announcement-democratic-party/2911315002/

niyad

(132,440 posts)
11. so, a change from the 2016 campaign?
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 03:08 PM
Feb 2019

TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
13. From May 1st, 2016:
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 03:11 PM
Feb 2019
We are not going back to the days when women had to risk their lives to end an unwanted pregnancy. The decision about abortion must remain a decision for the woman and her doctor to make, not the government.

We are not going to allow the extreme right-wing to defund Planned Parenthood, we are going to expand it. Planned Parenthood provides vital healthcare services for millions of women, who rely on its clinics every year for affordable, quality health care services including cancer prevention, STI and HIV testing and general primary health care services. The current attempt to malign Planned Parenthood is part of a long-term smear campaign by people who want to deny women in this country the right to control their own bodies.

We are not going back to the days when women did not have full access to birth control. Incredibly, almost all of the Republicans in the Senate are in favor of giving any employer who provides health insurance, or any insurance company, the ability to deny coverage for contraception or any other kind of procedure if the employer had a “moral” objection to it. That is unacceptable.


Link to his issues page from the 2016 campaign:
https://web.archive.org/web/20160428045034/https://berniesanders.com/issues/fighting-for-womens-rights/

NOTE: THIS IS NOT REFIGHTING THE 2016 PRIMARY. I WAS ASKED A QUESTION AND I ANSWERED IT.

MrsCoffee

(5,825 posts)
63. From the head of NARAL:
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 01:04 PM
Feb 2019
Speaking on Face the Nation, Mr. Sanders highlighted his own “100 percent lifetime pro-choice voting record” but said that if Democrats are to be competitive in all 50 states, they have to welcome those who do not necessarily share those views.

Following Mr. Sanders’s campaign event for Mr. Mello, Ilyse Hogue, the head of NARAL Pro-Choice America, said in a statement that the event was “not only disappointing, it is politically stupid.”


TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
64. Do we NOT support Democrats anymore?
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 01:06 PM
Feb 2019

That event happened AFTER the primary and there was no other Dem to support at that point. I thought it was OK to support and run candidates who "fit the district"?

MrsCoffee

(5,825 posts)
65. Yes, we support Democrats. Democrats are supposed to support the party platform.
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 01:14 PM
Feb 2019

Caught off-guard, Perez reversed himself, saying "every Democrat, like every American, should support a woman's right to make her own choices," and called on Democrats to speak with "one voice."

I vehemently disagree with Sanders. I don't believe we should embrace anti-choice candidates at all.


TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
66. Sounds like you have more of a problem with Mello than Bernie.
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 01:16 PM
Feb 2019

I guess you're glad Mello didn't win the election, then...

MrsCoffee

(5,825 posts)
67. I have a problem with Bernie saying we should accept anti-choice candidates into our fold.
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 01:17 PM
Feb 2019

How much clearer can I be?

sellitman

(11,745 posts)
17. Thanks for the great info
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 04:23 PM
Feb 2019

My bullet points aren't anything but a basic guideline. He has other ideas and plateforms. Most I agree with and some I disagree with. I try to look at his big picture. I like most of it.

TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
22. I didn't think you were leaving anything out on purpose...
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 04:37 PM
Feb 2019

...just wanted to be sure people knew where they could read the whole thing that most likely addresses their concerns.

niyad

(132,440 posts)
58. and how do you explain this?
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 12:47 PM
Feb 2019

. . . . .

Sanders proved he’s no champion of women when earlier this year he rejected abortion rights as a litmus test for Democratic candidates. This reasoning runs counter to Sanders’s style: abortion access is an opportunity to challenge progressives in the Democratic party to re-evaluate whether they are asking the right questions in the first place. Sanders contends in an interview with NPR, "If we are going to protect a woman's right to choose, at the end of the day we're going to need Democratic control over the House and the Senate, and state governments all over this nation," he said. "And we have got to appreciate where people come from, and do our best to fight for the pro-choice agenda. But I think you just can't exclude people who disagree with us on one issue."

In the back and forth over whether any man should be speaking at the convention, whether Sanders’s high profile would steal attention from Maxine Waters (D-Calif.) or other speakers, and the double-guessing of the organizers’ judgment, the real danger of Sanders’s position on letting Democratic candidates ditch abortion was lost.

. . .

https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/358608-bernie-sanders-doesnt-fight-for-womens-reproductive-justice




Will We Abandon Women’s Rights in the Name of Progressive Politics?
By Rebecca Traister
Bernie Sanders and Tom Perez.

The most disturbing thing to emerge from this week’s badly bungled Democratic “Unity Tour” staged by Vermont senator Bernie Sanders and new DNC head Tom Perez was the fact that the only thing on which the two men seemed to easily agree was that reproductive rights are not necessarily fundamental to progressive politics. This led to uproar and outrage among some precincts of the left, and eventually to mea culpas and “clarifications” from Sanders and Perez. But it is worth closely examining this fight over the importance of reproductive rights in the party because it is an argument that the Democrats seem to rehash over and over and over again.

To recap: On Wednesday, Sanders gave an interview in which he said that he “didn’t know” if Jon Ossoff, the Democrat who the day before had earned more than 48 percent of the primary vote in a longtime Republican House district in Georgia, was a progressive. It was an odd move for a powerful left-wing politician on a tour to rejuvenate Democratic politics to fire a shot of ambivalence at a Democratic candidate in any tight race, but it felt especially egregious given that Ossoff was now facing Karen Handel, a virulently anti-choice Republican who was forced to leave the Susan G. Komen Foundation in 2012 after trying to sever the organization’s ties with Planned Parenthood, and who actively supported voter-suppression efforts as Georgia’s secretary of State.

Sanders’s definition of what constitutes a progressive became even murkier when he suggested that the election of Heath Mello, who’s running for mayor of Omaha, Nebraska — and who as a state senator sponsored a 20-week abortion ban and mandatory ultrasounds for women seeking abortions — would represent a “shot across the board, that in a state like Nebraska a progressive Democrat can win.” Not to be outdone, Perez amplified the message that reproductive rights are negotiable for the Democratic Party. “If you demand fealty on every single issue,” Perez said, “then it’s a challenge. The Democratic Party platform acknowledges that we’re pro-choice, but there are communities, like some in Kansas, where people have a different position.” Well, sure. There are also communities in Kansas where voters have different positions from Democrats on immigration reform, labor protections, climate change, voting rights, and health care, and it would be vexing — and not at all progressive — for post-2016 Democrats to alter their stances on any of those issues.


The simple fact is that anti-abortion politicians support laws that shame, pressure, and punish women. Why would Sanders roll out the red carpet for candidates who refuse to respect women's autonomy and dignity? Does he really believe that ‘you can't just exclude people who disagree with us on one issue'? Sanders would never endorse a candidate who supported an end to collective bargaining laws, or opposed health care expansion or was a climate change denier — so why is it acceptable to support a candidate who rejects a woman’s right to decide if and when she’ll have children? Why does he only apply the “big tent” criteria to abortion? Throwing abortion access under the bus in support of the unproven claim that anti-abortion Democrats can help the party in red states can’t just be reduced to political expediency. There's a bigger principle involved: meaningful accountability to a constituency that makes up the core of the Democratic Party - women of color and black women in particular.

. . . . .

https://www.thecut.com/2017/04/bernie-sanders-and-tom-perez-must-not-abandon-womens-rights.html



Bernie Sanders Defends Campaigning For Anti-Abortion Rights Democrat

Sen. Bernie Sanders is campaigning for Omaha, Neb., mayoral candidate Heath Mello Thursday night, and he's not apologizing for it. "Absolutely, and I want him to win," Sanders, I-Vt., told NPR Thursday, after a rally in Grand Prairie, Texas.

The Thursday event with Mello, a Nebraska state senator who's running as a Democrat in the mayoral race, is one of several rallies Sanders is holding across the country this week. It's part of a Democratic National Committee-organized unity tour with DNC Chair Tom Perez.
Georgia Special Election Headed To Runoff As Republicans Avoid Nightmare Scenario
Politics


The Omaha event wasn't that notable – just one of several red state visits on the DNC itinerary — until Thursday morning. That's when Ilyse Hogue, the president of abortion rights advocate NARAL Pro-Choice America, issued a statement blasting Sanders and Perez for spending time and resources campaigning alongside a Democrat who opposes abortion rights.

"The actions today by the DNC to embrace and support a candidate for office who will strip women – one of the most critical constituencies for the party – of our basic rights and freedom is not only disappointing, it is politically stupid," Hogue said. "Today's action makes this so-called 'fight back tour' look more like a throw-back tour for women and our rights." Mello has co-sponsored several bills in Nebraska's unicameral legislature that would restrict abortion rights, including a 2009 measure requiring doctors to inform women seeking abortions about the availability of an ultrasound.

. . . . .

https://www.npr.org/2017/04/20/524962482/sanders-defends-campaigning-for-anti-abortion-rights-democrat

TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
60. Was there another Democrat in the race at that point to support?
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 12:49 PM
Feb 2019

If so, then that would require a closer look. If not, then should he have not supported the Democrat?

niyad

(132,440 posts)
61. because women's full reproductive rights are part of the Democratic party platform.
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 12:53 PM
Feb 2019

it is depressing to watch progressives tapdancing around women's rights.

TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
62. Doesn't sound like Bernie is. If you have beef with Mello take it up with him. As for a timeline:
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 01:00 PM
Feb 2019

Omaha Primary: April 4
General Election: May 9

Your first article regarding Bernie and Perez is dated April 20. The second article is also dated April 20. AFTER the primary.

So my question still stands: Given that there wasn't another Democrat to support at that point, would it have been your preference that he NOT support the Democrat? Follow-up question: What do you suppose the reaction around here would have been if he had come out against Mello after he won the primary given that there was no other choice at that point?

Also, I thought it was OK for us to run candidates that "fit the district". Seems like since he won the Dem primary he fits the district.

niyad

(132,440 posts)
68. the tapdancing is amazing.
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 01:21 PM
Feb 2019

TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
69. You're taking issue with Bernie for some other persons stances...
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 01:25 PM
Feb 2019

...where'd you leave those goalposts? I can't even see them anymore. We started with "I don't see anything about women's reproductive rights there" and now we're going over the Omaha mayoral candidates positions...

Thanks for NOT answering the questions by the way...

niyad

(132,440 posts)
70. hsi OWN actions and words, thank you very much. like I said, tapdancing.
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 01:36 PM
Feb 2019

TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
71. From your NPR article:
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 01:50 PM
Feb 2019
Sanders pushed back against the criticism. "The truth is that in some conservative states there will be candidates that are popular candidates who may not agree with me on every issue. I understand it. That's what politics is about," Sanders told NPR.

"If we are going to protect a woman's right to choose, at the end of the day we're going to need Democratic control over the House and the Senate, and state governments all over this nation," he said.


It's quite clear HE doesn't hold anti-choice views. This is so crazy to me.

Still no answers to the questions I see: Should he have NOT supported the Democrat?

DownriverDem

(7,014 posts)
23. Actually
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 05:13 PM
Feb 2019

Bernie's agenda is to make sure trump wins.

safeinOhio

(37,651 posts)
28. All he would have to do
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 05:23 PM
Feb 2019

is run as an Independent to do that.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
33. Jeeze!!
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 05:30 PM
Feb 2019


 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
45. That's disingenuous.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 05:57 PM
Feb 2019

And we have a bigger problem as a party if that happens. If Bernie runs as an independent through the general, then yes he is guaranteeing a Trump win. But if he drops out after he loses the primary, and endorses the Democratic nominee, as he did in 2016, he’s doing absolutely nothing wrong.

My problem with Bernie is that I don’t trust him to stay a Democrat if he wins the nomination and / or presidency.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
40. he's a known Male feminist. what do you think?
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 05:47 PM
Feb 2019

Hillary actually said that abortion rights would be on the table O_O now since I haven't been here in literally 2 yrs .... Bernie is with me period and thats all that'll matter. Because of threats made in PM here I left the party Couldn't stand the stress. And keep this up and yeah remind me why I didn't come back. Why people have to keep dividing I have no idea. Even with the Conservatives , the moderates don't like Trump .. Bernie would peal that off. I don't think he'd be big on getting more things done on abortion but hey Trump was Pro Choice until 2016. (i'd say 2015 but he was everything and for gays and lesbians too) So who they are and aren't for is driven by the supporters. .. Bernie was just the mouth piece. If his entrance in the race drives Democrats left of center instead of right of center GOOD. Right now , well Cory Book iffy he's more middle. But alot of them are rather right of center on the + graph oh I need that link again Political compass was it. zzzz But hey it took Bernie to bring me back here after 2 years of taking a break which I really needed. Yeah moment I heard he was in $3 down within an hour of hearing.. I don't really have the money but $3 isn't gonna hurt

sweetloukillbot

(12,744 posts)
51. Which Democratic candidates are on the Right?
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 06:25 PM
Feb 2019

Oh yeah, Tulsi Gabbard is.

niyad

(132,440 posts)
59. and how do you explain this?
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 12:48 PM
Feb 2019

. . . . .

Sanders proved he’s no champion of women when earlier this year he rejected abortion rights as a litmus test for Democratic candidates. This reasoning runs counter to Sanders’s style: abortion access is an opportunity to challenge progressives in the Democratic party to re-evaluate whether they are asking the right questions in the first place. Sanders contends in an interview with NPR, "If we are going to protect a woman's right to choose, at the end of the day we're going to need Democratic control over the House and the Senate, and state governments all over this nation," he said. "And we have got to appreciate where people come from, and do our best to fight for the pro-choice agenda. But I think you just can't exclude people who disagree with us on one issue."

In the back and forth over whether any man should be speaking at the convention, whether Sanders’s high profile would steal attention from Maxine Waters (D-Calif.) or other speakers, and the double-guessing of the organizers’ judgment, the real danger of Sanders’s position on letting Democratic candidates ditch abortion was lost.

. . .

https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/358608-bernie-sanders-doesnt-fight-for-womens-reproductive-justice




Will We Abandon Women’s Rights in the Name of Progressive Politics?
By Rebecca Traister
Bernie Sanders and Tom Perez.

The most disturbing thing to emerge from this week’s badly bungled Democratic “Unity Tour” staged by Vermont senator Bernie Sanders and new DNC head Tom Perez was the fact that the only thing on which the two men seemed to easily agree was that reproductive rights are not necessarily fundamental to progressive politics. This led to uproar and outrage among some precincts of the left, and eventually to mea culpas and “clarifications” from Sanders and Perez. But it is worth closely examining this fight over the importance of reproductive rights in the party because it is an argument that the Democrats seem to rehash over and over and over again.

To recap: On Wednesday, Sanders gave an interview in which he said that he “didn’t know” if Jon Ossoff, the Democrat who the day before had earned more than 48 percent of the primary vote in a longtime Republican House district in Georgia, was a progressive. It was an odd move for a powerful left-wing politician on a tour to rejuvenate Democratic politics to fire a shot of ambivalence at a Democratic candidate in any tight race, but it felt especially egregious given that Ossoff was now facing Karen Handel, a virulently anti-choice Republican who was forced to leave the Susan G. Komen Foundation in 2012 after trying to sever the organization’s ties with Planned Parenthood, and who actively supported voter-suppression efforts as Georgia’s secretary of State.

Sanders’s definition of what constitutes a progressive became even murkier when he suggested that the election of Heath Mello, who’s running for mayor of Omaha, Nebraska — and who as a state senator sponsored a 20-week abortion ban and mandatory ultrasounds for women seeking abortions — would represent a “shot across the board, that in a state like Nebraska a progressive Democrat can win.” Not to be outdone, Perez amplified the message that reproductive rights are negotiable for the Democratic Party. “If you demand fealty on every single issue,” Perez said, “then it’s a challenge. The Democratic Party platform acknowledges that we’re pro-choice, but there are communities, like some in Kansas, where people have a different position.” Well, sure. There are also communities in Kansas where voters have different positions from Democrats on immigration reform, labor protections, climate change, voting rights, and health care, and it would be vexing — and not at all progressive — for post-2016 Democrats to alter their stances on any of those issues.


The simple fact is that anti-abortion politicians support laws that shame, pressure, and punish women. Why would Sanders roll out the red carpet for candidates who refuse to respect women's autonomy and dignity? Does he really believe that ‘you can't just exclude people who disagree with us on one issue'? Sanders would never endorse a candidate who supported an end to collective bargaining laws, or opposed health care expansion or was a climate change denier — so why is it acceptable to support a candidate who rejects a woman’s right to decide if and when she’ll have children? Why does he only apply the “big tent” criteria to abortion? Throwing abortion access under the bus in support of the unproven claim that anti-abortion Democrats can help the party in red states can’t just be reduced to political expediency. There's a bigger principle involved: meaningful accountability to a constituency that makes up the core of the Democratic Party - women of color and black women in particular.

. . . . .

https://www.thecut.com/2017/04/bernie-sanders-and-tom-perez-must-not-abandon-womens-rights.html



Bernie Sanders Defends Campaigning For Anti-Abortion Rights Democrat

Sen. Bernie Sanders is campaigning for Omaha, Neb., mayoral candidate Heath Mello Thursday night, and he's not apologizing for it. "Absolutely, and I want him to win," Sanders, I-Vt., told NPR Thursday, after a rally in Grand Prairie, Texas.

The Thursday event with Mello, a Nebraska state senator who's running as a Democrat in the mayoral race, is one of several rallies Sanders is holding across the country this week. It's part of a Democratic National Committee-organized unity tour with DNC Chair Tom Perez.
Georgia Special Election Headed To Runoff As Republicans Avoid Nightmare Scenario
Politics


The Omaha event wasn't that notable – just one of several red state visits on the DNC itinerary — until Thursday morning. That's when Ilyse Hogue, the president of abortion rights advocate NARAL Pro-Choice America, issued a statement blasting Sanders and Perez for spending time and resources campaigning alongside a Democrat who opposes abortion rights.

"The actions today by the DNC to embrace and support a candidate for office who will strip women – one of the most critical constituencies for the party – of our basic rights and freedom is not only disappointing, it is politically stupid," Hogue said. "Today's action makes this so-called 'fight back tour' look more like a throw-back tour for women and our rights." Mello has co-sponsored several bills in Nebraska's unicameral legislature that would restrict abortion rights, including a 2009 measure requiring doctors to inform women seeking abortions about the availability of an ultrasound.

. . . . .

https://www.npr.org/2017/04/20/524962482/sanders-defends-campaigning-for-anti-abortion-rights-democrat

crazytown

(7,277 posts)
2. The message is fine
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 02:59 PM
Feb 2019

The messenger wanting.

 

WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
5. As someone who isn't the biggest fan of Sanders...
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 03:02 PM
Feb 2019

This is how you make the case for him. I'm not going to "have at you". Well done.

sellitman

(11,745 posts)
18. Thanks.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 04:26 PM
Feb 2019

The anti-Sander vitriol on this site is amazing. I thought it needed some push back. I'm leaning heavily towards Kamala but I welcome his energy and I firmly believe he is a good man.

 

WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
20. I am a part of that vitriol.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 04:34 PM
Feb 2019

But many of the posts initiated lend themselves to such a response.

Your op on the other hand lends itself as a reminder of all we support. I read all of the position points you mention and they make me feel all warm and fuzzy on the inside.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
29. No more and no less amazing than those who treat him as a sacred cow.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 05:24 PM
Feb 2019

"The anti-Sander vitriol on this site is amazing...."

So it tends to balance out.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
47. yeah I know so bad I left for two years because of threats
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 05:57 PM
Feb 2019

It's that bad. I know what I'm gonna get coming in here and it won't take me much to remember why this hatism sucks. and he's Jewish... do'h. My aunt's Jewish, my uncle isn't (dads brother) which makes my male cousin not so much and my female cousin on that side and her daughter Jewish. Not by religion but as heritage etc...

That and why does all this need to be so bloody early. It's february. my Jury duty delay from Nov 6 hasn't happened yet (march) this early? good grief. Iowa is 24/7 politics but nationally yall need some good humor.

Greatest irony I've had of late is a big pro Trump guy like my dad (yuck) well Trump punishes foreign companies. But dad nope. Got an LG washer made in Vietnam X_X and once the Jeep got nailed in a 300 foot long jump (stuck accelerator or something. and lost the breaks.. no Chrysler period (um Jeep not the same thing. Fiat not the same thing either. Rather liked the PT Cruiser and saw 2 1/2 of them out today (I say half because I saw my first (it's 20 degrees out!!) PT Cruiser convertible 2 door) But no no American made cars. Okay so I looked those up and ran into a concrete wall. Dad loves Hyundai Sonata's. Great South Korean made cars (made in Montgomery Alabama since 2005) WTF X_X He has a 2008 and 2016 brother has a 2014. Right now we are looking at a used made in Mexico <----- Nissan. I'll be the only one in the family with a foreign car 3 ways. Japanese origin, Owned in France made south of that wall he wants. Okay after I figured out where Sonata's in this country are made , nothing made sense. And yes Ford cars by and large are made in South Korea and sold here O_X bit backwards aren't we smh I did say dad was Pro Trump. so okay LG made in Vietnam is pro American and a Nissan owned in France made in Mexico is also American right. sure and my a** is made of jello (wait maybe it is )

DownriverDem

(7,014 posts)
24. Just point out
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 05:14 PM
Feb 2019

Bernie is not a member of the Democratic Party.

 

WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
25. I don't like the way he uses the party.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 05:17 PM
Feb 2019

I still think the op is how one makes the case for him at a place like DU.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,689 posts)
30. What in hell does that have to do with these issues?
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 05:25 PM
Feb 2019

Does it make them more important if an official full time Democrat says them?

mwooldri

(10,818 posts)
32. If it walks like a duck, looks like a duck...
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 05:29 PM
Feb 2019

And quacks like a duck...is it a duck?

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
34. WHAT ! Really? Where did you hear that?
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 05:31 PM
Feb 2019

First time I ever heard it, that's for sure..


LongtimeAZDem

(4,516 posts)
6. Most of that is in the platform; we don't need Sanders.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 03:05 PM
Feb 2019

ZeroSomeBrains

(638 posts)
7. He is also for getting rid of cash bail
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 03:05 PM
Feb 2019

That is a huge deal for those in poor communities who get caught up in the criminal justice system.

msongs

(73,754 posts)
9. one of the most important reasons is missing from this list but cannot be mentioned nt
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 03:07 PM
Feb 2019

guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)
10. My view, as a Sanders supporter in the primary,
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 03:07 PM
Feb 2019

is that if he does not prioritize reproductive issues and racial justice issues he will not do as well as he did in 2016.

He has had 2 more years to learn from his 2 largest 2016 mistakes,

 

honest.abe

(9,238 posts)
12. You forgot to add..
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 03:08 PM
Feb 2019

- Label Democratic nominees as corporatists, Wall Street buddies, establishment Dems

apcalc

(4,528 posts)
14. It's a total package for white males.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 03:12 PM
Feb 2019

Women, POC... we can do waaaaaay better.

Not interested. I can get the whole package with others.

TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
15. Be careful...you're reading someone else' summation of the announcement.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 03:14 PM
Feb 2019

This is not a bullet point list from the Sanders campaign. There are things covered in the announcement that aren't in that list. There isn't an issues page up yet that I can find, but you can read the full text of the announcement here towards the bottom of the article:
https://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/story/news/politics/elections/2019/02/19/bernie-sanders-2020-presidential-campaign-announcement-democratic-party/2911315002/

 

Apollyonus

(812 posts)
16. Sanders is too divisive
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 03:17 PM
Feb 2019

No thanks.

His rhetoric will end up maligning and severely damaging the eventual nominee. (Which Sanders has NO chance of becoming.)

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
19. The GOP "borrowed" and reinforced and amplified his rhetoric during the general election.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 04:29 PM
Feb 2019
His rhetoric will end up maligning and severely damaging the eventual nominee.
The GOP "borrowed" and reinforced and amplified his rhetoric during the general election.
 

Apollyonus

(812 posts)
31. Yes ... exactly
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 05:25 PM
Feb 2019

I cringed when Trump was saying "look how they treated poor Bernie Sanders" as though defeating him in legitimate election was somehow malfeasance of some sort.

Trump did that in practically every rally after the DNC convention, driving home the message to Bernie supporters that Bernie was cheated out of a sure nomination.


mvd

(65,912 posts)
21. I agree - him being in does help keep alive a great message
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 04:37 PM
Feb 2019

I am just not sure I am going to pick him in the primaries again. There is time to decide.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
35. Personally, I don't think it's "a great message" when ...
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 05:31 PM
Feb 2019
him being in does help keep alive a great message
Personally, I don't think it's "a great message" when anyone calls the Democratic party "corrupt" or "ideologically bankrupt." It's also not a "great message" to hear smears about the Democratic party being "the party of the elite" or "the party of the one-percent."

All I'm saying is that any suggestion that the Democratic party is the "same" as the GOP is false and it serves no good purpose. If people are convinced (through repetition) that there's "no difference" then they have no reason to vote for Democrats.

That type of rhetoric is divisive and it only serves to weaken the party. It causes resentment, distrust and suspicion. And, of course, a weakened Democratic party only benefits the GOP (and Trump, and Russia).

Tumbulu

(6,630 posts)
38. absolutely! NT
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 05:46 PM
Feb 2019
 

NotHardly

(2,705 posts)
48. This ... the Bernie is divisive little spoiler, was last time, will be again...
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 05:57 PM
Feb 2019
I'm with you NurseJackie

George II

(67,782 posts)
26. Looks like a subset of the 2016 Democratic Platform - most, if not all, are already in that document
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 05:22 PM
Feb 2019

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
27. Jobs?
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 05:22 PM
Feb 2019

What's his plan to increase jobs, which are the basis for our economy, and the source of much of the country's revenue?

Infrastructure?

All I see is spending. I approve of most of those things on his agenda, but we need a healthy economy as the underpinning of those expenses.

 

Apollyonus

(812 posts)
36. Here is my campaign agenda (Sarcasm warning!)
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 05:34 PM
Feb 2019

    Climb Mt. Everest
    Cross Pacific Ocean on a bamboo raft
    Swim from Long Island to Southampton
    Live with lions on the Serengeti plain
    Catch a live yeti in Nepal
    Beat the most interesting man in the world by drinking twice as much Dos Equis
    Eliminate poverty
    Cure Cancer
    Outlaw death and sickness
    Reverse global warming into global cooling
    Convert all violent criminals into non-violent Buddhist monks


Don't ask if I'll ever achieve any of it and especially don't ask for plans ... just vote for me. The list sounds damn impressive.


Tumbulu

(6,630 posts)
37. perfect!
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 05:45 PM
Feb 2019

Just hearing his name boils my blood.

True Blue American

(18,579 posts)
39. I have a Yeti on
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 05:47 PM
Feb 2019

Wait for it! Candy Crush!

True Blue American

(18,579 posts)
41. Great group of
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 05:48 PM
Feb 2019

Real Democrats there!

TexasTowelie

(127,350 posts)
46. You forgot to ask for campaign donations. n/t
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 05:57 PM
Feb 2019
 

Apollyonus

(812 posts)
50. Good point
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 06:20 PM
Feb 2019

Please send me $27 immediately!

Arazi

(8,887 posts)
42. Agreed on all points, thank you
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 05:48 PM
Feb 2019
 

NotHardly

(2,705 posts)
43. Bernie, old dude, says nothing about women's health & reproductive rights ... yeah, that's him & his
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 05:54 PM
Feb 2019

TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
49. See post 8
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 06:03 PM
Feb 2019

jalan48

(14,914 posts)
44. Great list.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 05:55 PM
Feb 2019
 

Trumpocalypse

(6,143 posts)
52. Nothing about voting rights?? NT
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 06:27 PM
Feb 2019

doc03

(39,086 posts)
53. Assuring Trump gets re-elected nt
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 06:58 PM
Feb 2019

sarcasmo

(23,968 posts)
73. +1
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 03:19 PM
Feb 2019

SidDithers

(44,333 posts)
54. Gun control?...nt
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 07:01 PM
Feb 2019

Sid

sellitman

(11,745 posts)
57. There is no perfect candidate
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 09:45 PM
Feb 2019

There are always issues that bother us about any candidate. That wasn't my point and you know it.

 

Blue_Tires

(57,596 posts)
55. He didn't "turn us left"
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 07:03 PM
Feb 2019

You're giving a rooster credit for the sunrise...

And I guess I'd be feeling a bit more optimistic if Sanders didn't spend the last three years pissing on the party more than he pissed on Trump...

sarcasmo

(23,968 posts)
72. Any word on when Bernie is releasing his taxes?
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 03:19 PM
Feb 2019

Yonnie3

(19,458 posts)
74. Locking ...
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 05:58 PM
Feb 2019

Admin has asked that we lock all active primary threads in General Discussion.

If you like, please repost in the Democratic Primaries forum and continue there.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Bernie Sanders' campaign ...