Tue Feb 19, 2019, 03:19 PM

Garrett78 (10,721 posts)

Bernie Sanders in Iowa and New Hampshire

It seems highly unlikely that Sanders will do as well in the first 2 contests as he did in 2016. There will be other candidates who appeal to his constituency. He isn't running against a polarizing frontrunner who many had been conditioned to hate. How is he going to pull off 2nd place or better in both IA and NH?

If he doesn't, where does he go from there? Nevada and South Carolina aren't going to save him.

I have a hard time seeing Sanders make it all the way to Super Tuesday. Even with the necessary funds to continue, there will be no justification for continuing.

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Bernie Sanders in Iowa and New Hampshire (Original post)	Garrett78	Feb 2019	OP
Yeah, that is the only saving grace in all this.	honest.abe	Feb 2019	#1
Just imagine if we started with states that actually reflect our electorate.	Garrett78	Feb 2019	#4
Which are? N/T	flotsam	Feb 2019	#8
California	DemocratSinceBirth	Feb 2019	#9
Maryland, Illinois, Arizona, Florida, California, etc.	Garrett78	Feb 2019	#10
He doesn't have to do as well in those two states.	irresistable	Feb 2019	#2
By "as well," I'm referring to where he placed. 2nd in Iowa and 1st in New Hampshire.	Garrett78	Feb 2019	#3
'Just imagine if we started with states that actually reflect our electorate.'	comradebillyboy	Feb 2019	#5
Yes. I've suggested Maryland and Florida or Illinois and Arizona.	Garrett78	Feb 2019	#6
Absolutly	comradebillyboy	Feb 2019	#7
He will stay in	romana	Feb 2019	#11
He will have a much tougher time justifying that. It'll be a completely different situation.	Garrett78	Feb 2019	#12

Response to Garrett78 (Original post)

Tue Feb 19, 2019, 03:20 PM

honest.abe (6,298 posts)

1. Yeah, that is the only saving grace in all this.

He will probably do so poorly he will be forced to drop out early.

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Response to honest.abe (Reply #1)

Tue Feb 19, 2019, 03:54 PM

Garrett78 (10,721 posts)

4. Just imagine if we started with states that actually reflect our electorate.

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Response to Garrett78 (Reply #4)

Tue Feb 19, 2019, 06:24 PM

flotsam (3,268 posts)

8. Which are? N/T

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Response to flotsam (Reply #8)

Tue Feb 19, 2019, 06:26 PM

DemocratSinceBirth (98,029 posts)

9. California

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Response to flotsam (Reply #8)

Tue Feb 19, 2019, 06:28 PM

Garrett78 (10,721 posts)

10. Maryland, Illinois, Arizona, Florida, California, etc.

As opposed to 2 of the whitest, most rural states in the US.

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Tue Feb 19, 2019, 03:22 PM

irresistable (989 posts)

2. He doesn't have to do as well in those two states.

He does, however, need to win them.
He might be able to do that with 30%.

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Response to irresistable (Reply #2)

Tue Feb 19, 2019, 03:33 PM

Garrett78 (10,721 posts)

3. By "as well," I'm referring to where he placed. 2nd in Iowa and 1st in New Hampshire.

I don't think he'll place as high in either. Even if he does, he faces a very rough road after New Hampshire.

Just imagine if we started with states that actually reflect our electorate.

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Response to Garrett78 (Reply #3)

Tue Feb 19, 2019, 03:59 PM

comradebillyboy (9,541 posts)

5. 'Just imagine if we started with states that actually reflect our electorate.'

Wouldn't it be lovely.

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Response to comradebillyboy (Reply #5)

Tue Feb 19, 2019, 04:02 PM

Garrett78 (10,721 posts)

6. Yes. I've suggested Maryland and Florida or Illinois and Arizona.

The Iowa and New Hampshire tradition needs to die. As do all caucuses.

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Response to Garrett78 (Reply #6)

Tue Feb 19, 2019, 04:02 PM

comradebillyboy (9,541 posts)

7. Absolutly

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Response to Garrett78 (Original post)

Tue Feb 19, 2019, 06:30 PM

romana (765 posts)

11. He will stay in

He will stay in long past his shelf life as long as people keep sending him money. He will use it as leverage at the convention if he can garner enough delegates and people willing to protest at the convention.

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Response to romana (Reply #11)

Tue Feb 19, 2019, 06:35 PM

Garrett78 (10,721 posts)

12. He will have a much tougher time justifying that. It'll be a completely different situation.

He won't be in a 1-on-1 race, and he won't be running against someone who millions had been conditioned to hate.

2nd in Iowa and 1st in New Hampshire propelled him forward. I don't think he'll place as high in those states in 2020. Then, losses in Nevada and South Carolina will be a clear signal that Sanders has no business sticking around the way he did in 2016.

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