Just donated to Bernie! Go Bernie!

[masmdu]

This discussion thread was locked by Skinner (a host of the General Discussion forum).

https://berniesanders.com

Donate here. Glad to see Bernie is running 😁!

[912gdm]

1. im sure in 2020 I will feel the burn.

[brooklynite]

6. You should go see a doctor...

[912gdm]

7. welp, just like a cold sore,

he won't go away.

[we can do it]

36. Or syphylis.

[rockfordfile]

76. He needs to clear up his support for trump. It seems to me over the last couple of years

I would like to know what he thinks of Jill Stein.

[wasupaloopa]

2. What is your thinking about Bernie in 2020?

I can't say I support him being a Hillary supporter in 2016 and still feel bitter about that primary.

[masmdu]

17. I credit Bernie with shifting the debate

and making previously inconceivable not only viable but seem like common sense.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

20. THIS!!!! +1,000

[ripcord]

26. The things Bernie called for in the primaries last election

Are pretty much what everyone is running on now.

[yaesu]

56. He did, shifted the whole party back to the left, back to where it was meant to be

as a party we had lost our way for a few decades, now I hope we stay close to home, never taking that path to the right again, never giving one inch to the fascist, corporate pigs.

[George II]

68. He didn't shift the debate, and many of his proposals had been introduced years before....

Universal Healthcare (M4A) way back in 1943 by John Dingell Sr (followed by his son and his daughter in law every year since)
"Green New Deal" about ten years ago

And others.

Just look at the Democratic Party platform for 2016, 2012, even 2008 (and no, they weren't significantly influenced by Sanders)

[we can do it]

3. Go Bernie and take Howard Shultz with you.

[Fresh_Start]

13. +1000 nt

nt

[Adsos Letter]

14. LOL!

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

16. Amen

Bernie can lecture Howard about what an awful capitalist he is.

[smirkymonkey]

27. *snort*

[Apollyonus]

29. lol n/t

[Mars and Minerva]

61. +100000

[sheshe2]

67. Amen, amen.

[Adrahil]

4. Where's his promised tax returns.

... still waiting from 2016.

[MontanaMama]

52. Or his explanation

for voting against Russia sanctions?

[SumDave1933]

5. Good for you! I'm excited that we have so many great candidates running this cycle.

[masmdu]

9. Agreed.

[Blue_Tires]

8. Once upon a time, pimping non-party candidates was a bannable offense here

SEE: Nader '04

Maybe it's time to bring that policy back?

[masmdu]

10. You don't think he'll run as a Democrat?

[nolabear]

11. He's not registered as one.

[Crunchy Frog]

88. Any evidence that he intends to run a 3rd party spoiler campaign?

[pnwmom]

75. What if he pulls the trick he's been doing in Vermont?

For the last two times, he's run as a Democrat, secured the nomination, and then left the party to run as an Independent in the general, with no competition from a real Democrat.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

23. You should read the TOS sometime when you get a chance.

[NYC Liberal]

72. From the TOS:

we expect our members to support and vote for Democrats at election time. Rare exceptions are granted at the sole discretion of the DU Administrators. (Current exceptions: None.)

Bernie Sanders is not a Democrat. He remains a registered Independent even after his announcement.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

73. Read further:

Constructive criticism is always welcome, but our members don't expect to see Democrats viciously denigrated on this website. This rule also applies to Independents who align themselves with Democrats (eg: Bernie Sanders).

[NYC Liberal]

74. That's about constructive criticism, not support in elections.

The TOS clearly says only Democrats can be supported in elections. Bernie Sanders is still not a registered Democrat.

[Mariana]

85. Take a look at a calendar. It isn't election time. nt.

[USALiberal]

28. Ahh, how adorable! nt

[xmas74]

32. Absolutely.

There is no reason for it.

[Crunchy Frog]

87. That only applies to someone running as a 3rd party spoiler candidate.

And only to candidates running in the general election, not in the primaries.

There has never been a time in the entire history of DU when supporting Sanders as a political figure, or for election to office, was a rule violation. Since it doesn't appear that he intends to run a 3rd party campaign against the party nominee, there will be no "Nader '04" scenario, and supporting him will never be against the site rules.

I'm not a fan of his candidacy either, but let's try to maintain a realistic perspective, and not try to make up site rules that don't exist.

[chillfactor]

12. no way would i donate to him

too many other candidates who are younger, full of energy. great credentials, well-educated. Bernie will never get the nomination……...think you just wasted your money.

[MFM008]

15. My point as well.

I just think we do best with younger people.
Clinton. Kennedy. Obama.

[masmdu]

19. We shall see. He has A LOT of younger support.

[SumDave1933]

18. Thanks for your constructive feedback.

[Apollyonus]

31. +1000 nt

[El Supremo]

21. Waste of money

Why don't you buy me some Lotto tickets instead. After all, I'll have a better chance!

[roody]

22. Me too. Feeling the Bern.

[smirkymonkey]

30. I voted for him in the primary last time, but ended up voting Clinton in the general.

I will not make the mistake of voting for him again. There are a lot of former Bernie voters that will never vote for him again.

[Cha]

41. Thank You!

[we can do it]

64. I got it too, and I was not a subscriber😐

[TomSlick]

25. I suppose the intent it to ensure Trump is reelected?

If Bernie is nominated, Trump is likely to win reelection. Even if Bernie loses the primary, he will weaken the ultimate Democratic candidate.

A sad day for the Republic.

[Apollyonus]

33. That could be the ultimate goal

since Bernie has no path to victory. None.

[Cha]

40. Exactly.. we've seen this bad

scenario.

[redstateblues]

35. Bernie is a divisive figure.

I wish I could like him but I just don’t. Why isn’t he releasing his tax returns?

[Cha]

37. BS is too Divisive. I wouldn't donate to that.

[Trumpocalypse]

38. Thank you

for helping to re-elect Trump.

[BannonsLiver]

39. Meh

[Cha]

47. Smirk..

[sheshe2]

65. Ooooh!

[Snotcicles]

42. Bernie will win the primary and crush Trump if he is still in office. nt

[catbyte]

43. I'm underwhelmed. I don't like squatters, and that's what he is with the Democratic Party.

[MontanaMama]

55. +1

Our party is only good enough when he’s running for president.

[catbyte]

71. Or for the Senate in Vermont. He runs in the Democratic primary so no real challenger

opposes him, then he refuses the nomination & declares himself an Independent in the general election. The state Democratic party claims they're just fine with it, but I think it''s sleazy and stacks the deck in his favor. He's been doing it for 12 years.

Bernie Sanders Declines Democratic Senatorial Nomination

Posted By Paul Heintz on Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 5:50 PM

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) has officially turned down the Democratic nomination for the U.S. Senate, according to the Vermont Secretary of State's Office.

Sanders, who took home nearly 91 percent of the vote in last week's Democratic primary, informed the state last Friday that he would decline the nomination, according to elections director Will Senning. Neither the candidate nor the Secretary of State's Office announced the move at the time, though it hardly comes as a surprise.

A longtime independent, Sanders has sought the Democratic nomination since he first ran for the Senate in 2006, in order to prevent another candidate from taking the ballot line. Each time he has declined the nomination upon winning it. His staff made clear from the start of this year's campaign that this time would be no different.

On Tuesday, the Sanders campaign sent a second letter to the Secretary of State’s Office turning down the Vermont Progressive Party’s nomination. While Sanders did not appear on the Progressive primary ballot, he received enough write-in votes — 434 — to win that party’s nomination, too.

"Senator Sanders is very proud that almost 91% of Vermont Democrats cast their ballots for him last Tuesday," campaign manager Shannon Jackson said in a statement Tuesday. "They know he is fighting every day for them and their families."

Jackson said his boss would “continue to vigorously support Democratic candidates up and down the ballot in Vermont and across the country who are standing up against the disastrous Trump administration and fighting for economic, racial, social and environmental justice.”

The Vermont Democratic Party appeared ready for the candidate's decision. In a statement issued last Thursday, the day before Sanders turned down the nomination, VDP spokesperson R. Christopher Di Mezzo called the senator "a powerful voice for Democratic values, issues and candidates." He said the party expected Sanders to decline the nomination but would nevertheless "fully and enthusiastically endorse" him at its September state committee meeting.

"With or without the Democratic label next to his name on the ballot, Bernie Sanders is our candidate for U.S. Senate," Di Mezzo said.

Other Democrats have been less forgiving. When Sanders sought the party's presidential nomination in 2016, detractors criticized his longstanding unwillingness to run with a "D" after his name.

“He isn't a Democrat — that's not a smear, that's what he says,” wrote Sanders’ rival for the nomination, Hillary Clinton, in her post-campaign book, What Happened, adding, “I am proud to be a Democrat and I wish Bernie were too.”

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https://www.sevendaysvt.com/OffMessage/archives/2018/08/21/bernie-sanders-declines-democratic-senatorial-nomination

[Andy823]

44. I am sure

Bernie will take very dollar you want to give him.

[AlexSFCA]

45. I won't vote for him in the primary but I consider him

the presumptive nominee, he’ll win the primary this time. I am prepared to fully support him once he is the nominee. But right now, I’m team Kamala even though it is abundantly clear that Benie has changed the game within just a few hours and Biden will have no impact if he runs unless he can come up with innovative and fresh vision for the country to get even minimal media coverage. We gotta work with what we have and so far bernie is most likely to beat trump in the general even if he is not universally liked by dem voters. It also occurred to me that if bernie wins the general, we, clinton suppoerters may have to apologize to our die hard bernie bros.

[Garrett78]

62. Sanders has virtually no chance of winning the nomination.

He won't be in a 1-on-1 race, and he won't be running against someone who millions had been conditioned to hate. Sanders was the only option for all of those who were anti-Clinton--so, naturally, he got a lot of votes.

Also, there will be fewer caucuses in 2020.

2nd in Iowa and 1st in New Hampshire propelled Sanders forward. Will he place as high in those states in 2020? Not likely. Then, losses in Nevada and South Carolina will be a clear signal that Sanders has no business sticking around the way he did in 2016.

States voting on Super Tuesday: California, Texas, Alabama, Tennessee, Virginia, North Carolina, Massachusetts, Oklahoma and Vermont. Sanders won just 2 of those states in 2016 (Oklahoma/37 delegates and Vermont/16 delegates) and he lost very badly in most of the others.

[tavernier]

46. I will only vote for a democrat.

Sorry Bernie.

[chwaliszewski]

48. Just donated $27 to Bernie!

[mudstump]

49. I donated $100 and...

made a monthly donation as well. Go Bernie!!!!

[mvd]

50. I have no extra money

Hopefully I can contribute soon.

[highplainsdem]

51. Go away, Bernie.

[Tiggeroshii]

53. Me tooooooo!!!

I have a good feeling about this!

[yaesu]

54. Congrats to Bernie and all the other fine progressives throwing their hats in the ring

donating to whomever you support, no matter how little, helps fight big money influence in our elections.

[NotHardly]

57. Screw Bernie

[still_one]

58. Good for you. I just donated to Kamla Harris. GO KAMLA!!!

https://kamalaharris.org/

Donate here. Glad to see my DEMOCRATIC Senator from California is running

[demosincebirth]

59. here we go again. Democrats supporting an Independent. This should break DU rules about siupoorting

only Democrats

[chwaliszewski]

70. If Bernie wins the Democratic nomination, then we can't support him here?

[demosincebirth]

78. He's an Indepeneent. What does he have against joining the Democratic Party. Does he not like

being called a democrat? He will cause a split just like the last primaries - not progressive enough, too progressive, etc, etc. I can see it now. Dejavu all over again
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[chwaliszewski]

81. Those are great questions.

I'm afraid you'll have to ask Bernie yourself since I'm not his official spokesperson. Have a great day!

[chwaliszewski]

60. It has been written...

Link to tweet

[C Moon]

63. I'll pass this time around. Currently, I'm hoping Beto throws his hat in.

[peggysue2]

66. Yes, Go Bernie!

Go home and stay there in perpetuity. We've got an election to win, another Blue Wave to conjure and make real. You know, the one you doubted would materialize in 2018.

Spend some time with Jill Stein. She knows all about Russian trolls and bots. Stimulating conversation, I'm sure!

[quickesst]

69. This is the Democratic Underground.....

.....not the Chameleon Underground. It's not the Independent Underground.. And lastly, this is not the Independent/Democratic/Independent Underground. There is no such critter as a part-time Democrat.

[apnu]

79. This

I challenge that he's a democrat, but I've had posts removed for saying this.

So why do DU moderators think Bernie's a Democrat? He is currently listed as an Independent. DNC rules say one must be a member of the party before announcing candidacy. So does Bernie get magical exceptions to the rules now?

[quickesst]

80. I just have a real problem....

..... with someone who can't run on their own merits, and abandons his own party of choice for the short-term benefit of using the Democratic Party only to discard them when they are no longer of use to him, then returns to the party he abandoned in the first place.

Bernie is that relative who borrows money from you promising to pay you back once he gets his income tax check, then when he actually receives his income tax check, acts like he doesn't know you.

[demosincebirth]

82. Maybe Mr Skinner and his group should change the rules for DU and allow anyone to endorse

regardless of party affiliation.

[quickesst]

83. Everybody Underground

We don't give a damn who you support. Come on in!!!

[demosincebirth]

84. What are rules for?

[quickesst]

86. heh heh (9 seconds)

https://m.

[katmondoo]

77. I just donated to the Democratic Party