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For the sake of this discussion, lets stipulate that DFT has already been tried and found guilty of numerous crimes against the people, the state and perhaps even fashion. Whatever. The real question I have is- what do we do with the POS once he has been found guilty and removed from office? What should be his punishment?
Part of me would be ecstatic to see the small fingered vulgarian locked up in a cell for the rest of his life. I would do a Truly Happy Dance when I see the marshals take him out of the courtroom in chains. But what kind of prison? Someplace nasty with the most hardened criminals (like ADX Florence), or an easy street place like Butner where Bernie Madoff went? Then, once that decision has been made, how do we deal with security? As a former pResident, he is entitled to full time security for ten years after leaving office. While I would not lose sleep over jailhouse justice, the Secret Service would have to deal with that for at least the first ten years.
Is the death penalty even an option? It certainly was for the Rosenbergs. But his attorneys could tie that up until hes died of natural causes. Although after ten years, he would be legally able to be executed. Plus, we are still on the hook for his security for the first ten years of his prison life.
Or could we place him in exile? Yes, kick him out of the country for the rest of his life. The Hill recently did an article about that concept as a sentencing alternative. Let the MF move to Russia or whatever country would take him in. Of course, we would confiscate all his known assets first, and perhaps leave him with $50k spending money, that seems fair. That which we confiscate could go back into the Treasury to reunite all those immigrant families. The problem is, would he be a security problem for us? Has he really been so stupid as to need comic book renditions of the daily sec briefings? What if he actually has a few brain cells remaining after all those orange spray paint fumes? Could he actually remember enough real details to be of value to China, Russia or anyone else?
Or do we just let him live out his days, tweeting madly from his penthouse in NYC about how Obama did him wrong? Would that give any sense of justice to the citizenry? Furthermore, what would it accomplish? IMO, if we had sent Nixon off to hard time when he left office, the GOP would have taken far longer to become this corrupt. So, part of the rationale behind a severe sentence is the deterrence it gives us against another trying to do the same thing.
What should be done? That is my question for us all.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,674 posts)He is dead broke and living alone in a run-down double-wide in a seedy trailer park somewhere in, say, Nebraska, where it gets very hot in the summer, cold in the winter, and is susceptible to tornadoes. He spends his days sitting on the steps of his humble home drinking diet Pepsi, eating KFC and railing about the injustices done to him. He has become dangerously obese; his old clothes no longer fit so most of the time he wears XXX-L sweat pants and a stained wife-beater undershirt adorned with a six-foot-long red polyester necktie. Because he is no longer able to manage his hairdo, his fringe of stringy, now-gray hair hangs almost to his shoulders, revealing his shiny, blotchy scalp. His neck wattles obscure his actual neck almost entirely.
He is living off proceeds from the sale of some items of personal property that Melania missed when she cleaned out the New York apartment and took off for Slovenia; these included several sets of monogrammed gold cufflinks and a roomful of dictator-Baroque gilded chairs. He kept the throniest-looking chair to sit in at night while he watches Fox News on a small, very old tv with a coat hanger for an antenna, hoping Sean Hannity will mention him. He never does. Don Jr. sometimes writes to him from prison but the rest of his family is in Brazil, which does not have an extradition treaty with the U.S., and he hasn't heard from them in months.
He wonders what he will do when he has sold the last set of cufflinks. The pawn shop owner is not very generous, and the only collectors who might be interested are those unemployed neckbeards who live in their parents' basements and collect knockoff Nazi memorabilia.
Sometimes he waddles over to the neighbors' trash bins and pokes around in them with a stick, never with his little hands, hoping to find a copy of the New York Times or the Washington Post that might have an article about him. He wonders if Maggie Haberman still writes about him. Since his neighbors do not subscribe to these newspapers, he is able to imagine that his name still appears in them from time to time. Sometimes he finds uneaten French fries in the bins, which is a nice bonus when it happens, but most of the time the neighbors chase him away.
Eventually he passes away, alone and forgotten. An account of his funeral appears in the Washington Post, which hadn't bothered to write about him in several years:
The brief ceremony included a eulogy by Roger Stone, delivered via Skype from Leavenworth Prison, and a brief homily by Franklin Graham in which he compared Mr. Trump to Jesus Christ and warned that he would rise again from the dead to judge and punish his persecutors. A bystander, later identified as Michael Cohen, commented loudly that it although it has been three days Mr. Trump remains dead, Mr. Graham appeared not to have heard the remark. When asked why he was attending the funeral, Mr. Cohen, who was recently released from prison upon completing his sentence for election finance offenses, replied that he wanted to be sure the fucker was really dead. Others at the sparsely-attended event included former New York Mayor and Mr. Trumps television lawyer Rudy Giuliani, Fox host Sean Hannity, former vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin, and former Senator Lindsey Graham, who was observed sobbing quietly on the shoulder of washed-up rocker Ted Nugent.
No presidents or vice-presidents, former or current, were in attendance. President Pelosi was in Brussels, Belgium at a NATO conference, and Vice-President Beto ORourke was opening a new federal center in El Paso, Texas, to welcome refugees from Central America. Former President Obama was entertaining children at a holiday party at a D.C. hospital, and 99-year-old former President Jimmy Carter was busy nailing shingles to a Habitat for Humanity house in Georgia. Former President Bill Clinton and former Secretary of State and presidential candidate Hillary Clinton had just left for Africa to open three new AIDS clinics on behalf of the Clinton Foundation. Former President George W. Bush, reached at his home in Dallas, remarked that hed rather eat a bag o bees than attend the funeral, and provided a photo of a recent painting he had done of Mr. Trump, which unfortunately is not suitable for publication in a family newspaper. Mr. Trump's vice-president, Mike Pence, was also unable to attend; prison officials declined to give him a day pass for the ceremony.
Pallbearers included Corey Lewandowski, former Congressman Devin Nunes, who appeared to be wearing an ankle monitor, and four unidentified men in red MAGA caps. It was later determined that the men had been hired through a Craigslist advertisement; each was paid $50 in cash. Mr. Trumps final resting place has not been determined.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)That was just pure poetry.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,328 posts)Except Nunes should be (rumored to be) in Russia.
Blue Owl
(50,349 posts)Nicely... Very, very nicely...
RainCaster
(10,866 posts)I feel so honored that you chose my humble thread for such a fabulous reply. You had me grinning like a poop throwin' monkey.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)2020 because they recognize trump has little chance. Maybe a kid or two will face conviction, and hopefully trump will live the remainder of his life in disgrace and surrounded by worthless deplorables.
StTimofEdenRoc
(445 posts)Turbineguy
(37,319 posts)But I see the tide is turning against him. Nearly every day new revelations. And his minions are starting to see their futures.
WWII took 6 years (unless you're an East German...). It took time for the tide to turn. But it did and we all know how it ended.
sprinkleeninow
(20,237 posts)Wait. Still too charitable for the 🤡.
HAB911
(8,887 posts)nothing will happen to him, "for the healing of the country"
Personally, a firing squad is appropriate
Edit: I would settle for total asset forfeiture