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Message auto-removed (Original Post) Name removed Feb 2019 OP
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2019 #1
Yeah, no. bearsfootball516 Feb 2019 #2
Sure, why not? I loved her kids show in the 70's... Dennis Donovan Feb 2019 #3
Depends zipplewrath Feb 2019 #4
No, next question Blue_Tires Feb 2019 #5
I don't have a problem with it. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2019 #6
No. AJT Feb 2019 #7
I think the case should be carefully reviewed. HopeAgain Feb 2019 #8
hell no superpatriotman Feb 2019 #9
If she wants to spend the rest of her life in prison leftynyc Feb 2019 #10
She needs to get a powerful person to help her return FakeNoose Feb 2019 #11
Of course the answer is yes, it's called due process. grantcart Feb 2019 #12
Weird how that concept eludes people gratuitous Feb 2019 #16
Any other answer but "yes" betrays everything the U.S.A. is supposed to stand for. hunter Feb 2019 #19
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2019 #22
According to Trump, the New York Times is an "enemy" jberryhill Feb 2019 #25
God almighty, how far we've sunk... hunter Feb 2019 #27
If she's a US citizen, she should be able to *attempt* to travel anywhere any other US citizen can, RockRaven Feb 2019 #13
If so, she should immediately be taken into custody Siwsan Feb 2019 #14
If she was born a US citizen, we can't keep her out, unless struggle4progress Feb 2019 #15
Yesterday, the UK did just that..stripped an Isis bride of her UK citizenship... HipChick Feb 2019 #18
My comment yesterday. WeekiWater Feb 2019 #17
Technically, if she's brainwashed, she can recover when removed, however, if she relapses... TheBlackAdder Feb 2019 #20
Jihad jane Fullduplexxx Feb 2019 #21
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2019 #23
If she is a US citizen, she has an absolute right to enter the US jberryhill Feb 2019 #24
Yes, and she can answer to the criminal justice system for her choices. Eugene Feb 2019 #26

Response to Name removed (Original post)

bearsfootball516

(6,691 posts)
2. Yeah, no.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:31 PM
Feb 2019

Dennis Donovan

(31,059 posts)
3. Sure, why not? I loved her kids show in the 70's...
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:32 PM
Feb 2019

zipplewrath

(16,698 posts)
4. Depends
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:33 PM
Feb 2019

I'm not sure we know everything she did. Much of what she is accused wouldn't be a basis for denying citizenship. But she might have to stand trial for some of it.

 

Blue_Tires

(57,596 posts)
5. No, next question
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:33 PM
Feb 2019

WhiskeyGrinder

(26,656 posts)
6. I don't have a problem with it.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:35 PM
Feb 2019

AJT

(5,240 posts)
7. No.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:35 PM
Feb 2019

Regret does not equal a free ride. I hope she is sincere, but she will have to find her own way.

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
8. I think the case should be carefully reviewed.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:37 PM
Feb 2019

Isis brainwashed a lot of young people. Can you imagine growing up Muslim in Alabama? Maybe she had reasons to be bitter, disaffected?

If we don't let people think they can ever come back from radicalization, why would they ever de-radicalize?

I think since she is willing to face the U.S. Justice system, it should be seriously considered.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
10. If she wants to spend the rest of her life in prison
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:43 PM
Feb 2019

who are we to stop her? But she deserves to be tried for treason.

FakeNoose

(40,705 posts)
11. She needs to get a powerful person to help her return
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:46 PM
Feb 2019

This isn't something she can manage on her own, as much as she regrets leaving the US. Maybe somebody in the State Department or a Congressperson can make some noise about her plight? Maybe a celebrity, in the same way that Kim Kardashian helped that woman in prison? If not, I doubt she has much of a chance.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
12. Of course the answer is yes, it's called due process.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:47 PM
Feb 2019

She has likely committed crimes and should be charged and prosecuted.

You really want the Trump administration deciding citizen rights without a transparent prosecution.

By the way I believe that about 3 dozen men have been repatriated and prosecuted.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
16. Weird how that concept eludes people
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:51 PM
Feb 2019

The Constitution and our nation's laws aren't reserved just for people we happen to like.

hunter

(40,473 posts)
19. Any other answer but "yes" betrays everything the U.S.A. is supposed to stand for.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:54 PM
Feb 2019

Response to hunter (Reply #19)

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
25. According to Trump, the New York Times is an "enemy"
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 01:02 PM
Feb 2019

You want to give the administration an arbitrary power to banish US citizens.

Okay. We got that.

hunter

(40,473 posts)
27. God almighty, how far we've sunk...
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 01:10 PM
Feb 2019

Once upon a time the U.S.A. had mighty enemies like Nazi Germany, Imperial Japan, and the USSR.

Now our enemies are just a bunch of backward looking criminals trying to relive days of glory that never were.



RockRaven

(18,929 posts)
13. If she's a US citizen, she should be able to *attempt* to travel anywhere any other US citizen can,
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:48 PM
Feb 2019

and, when she is arrested in a lawful manner in the course of those travel attempts, so be it. She should face a fair application of the law with all of the due process any other citizen in any other circumstance would expect for themselves.

And that should be enough -- she's in a world of s--t, legally speaking, if the law is fairly and fully applied.

Siwsan

(27,823 posts)
14. If so, she should immediately be taken into custody
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:49 PM
Feb 2019

We have no way of knowing her actual intentions.

Let her meet with an attorney and her family, and be evaluated by mental health professionals. I admit I'm not really familiar with this story, but if she's been conspiring against the United States, she needs to be charged and brought to justice.

struggle4progress

(125,677 posts)
15. If she was born a US citizen, we can't keep her out, unless
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:50 PM
Feb 2019

she officially renounced her citizenship

HipChick

(25,594 posts)
18. Yesterday, the UK did just that..stripped an Isis bride of her UK citizenship...
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:53 PM
Feb 2019
 

WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
17. My comment yesterday.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:51 PM
Feb 2019
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=11840205

I'm not sure I understand her current status or whereabouts from the story.


Is she being held by Kurdish authorities at the current moment? Did she surrender herself with charges pending over her?

Either way, I wish I could wish her to American soil immediately. Sort out the rest after we get her back home. Fill the plane with other asylum seekers while we're at it.

TheBlackAdder

(29,981 posts)
20. Technically, if she's brainwashed, she can recover when removed, however, if she relapses...
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:54 PM
Feb 2019

Fullduplexxx

(8,609 posts)
21. Jihad jane
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:57 PM
Feb 2019

"Soooo many Aussies and Brits here, but where are the Americans, wake up u cowards," she posted in January 2015.

And under the name Umm Jihad, she encouraged attacks in the US, tweeting this exhortation in March 2015: "Go on drive-bys and spill all of their blood, or rent a big truck and drive all over them."

Who knows what she has planned

Response to Fullduplexxx (Reply #21)

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
24. If she is a US citizen, she has an absolute right to enter the US
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 01:01 PM
Feb 2019

There is no "allowed" or "not allowed" about it.

Eugene

(66,938 posts)
26. Yes, and she can answer to the criminal justice system for her choices.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 01:08 PM
Feb 2019
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