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MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 12:11 PM Feb 2019

'Dying of whiteness'

‘Dying of whiteness’: How Trump and the GOP tapped into white America’s suicidal crusade to maintain white supremacy

TANA GANEVA
21 FEB 2019 AT 13:01 ET

Early in his book, “Dying of Whiteness: How the Politics of Racial Resentment Is Killing America’s Heartland,” physician and social scientist Jonathan M. Metzl introduces a Tennessee man named Trevor. Trevor is 41 and dying of liver disease. He lives in a low-income housing facility and he doesn’t have health insurance.

“Had Trevor lived a simple thirty-nine minute drive away in neighboring Kentucky, he might have topped the list of candidates for expensive medications called polymerase inhibitors, a life-saving liver transplant, or other forms of treatment and support,” Metzl writes. But Tennessee officials repeatedly blocked efforts to expand Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act.

But Trevor is not mad at the state’s elected officials. “Ain’t no way I would ever support Obamacare or sign up for it,” he tells Metzl. “I would rather die.” When Metzl prods him about why he’d choose death over affordable health care, Trevor’s answer is telling. “We don’t need any more government in our lives. And in any case, no way I want my tax dollars paying for Mexicans or welfare queens.”

Over the course of almost a decade, Metzl crunched mortality statistics and spoke with people in the South and Midwest. He sought to find out how—and why—many low-and-mid income white Americans embrace values and back politicians who institute policies that are literally killing them, from lack of health care to gun de-regulations to shoddy infrastructure. Metzl shows that from a public health perspective, the dogma propagated by Republicans is literally toxic to a majority of their constituents.

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/02/dying-whiteness-trump-gop-tapped-white-americas-suicidal-crusade-maintain-white-supremacy/
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'Dying of whiteness' (Original Post) MrScorpio Feb 2019 OP
Dying of Stupidity actually. Guilded Lilly Feb 2019 #1
Beat me to it. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2019 #13
I hate to sound callous, but good riddance. Aristus Feb 2019 #2
+1 This guy wants to die for racism and I would not stand in his way. lagomorph777 Feb 2019 #3
I agree. Va Lefty Feb 2019 #4
Yep, the only issue I have is when they take the innocent down with them. Pacifist Patriot Feb 2019 #8
Can't' totally disagree here uponit7771 Feb 2019 #9
Self culling of the herd. muntrv Feb 2019 #19
He'd rather die... shanti Feb 2019 #5
There it is, the Southern Strategy in full bloom. wcast Feb 2019 #6
Good point leftieNanner Feb 2019 #21
But Trevor is not mad at the state's elected officials. "Ain't no way I would ever support Obamacare Downtown Hound Feb 2019 #7
Another dead racist? Oh well, what's for lunch? java108 Feb 2019 #10
I doubt this guy pays much in taxes or... TreasonousBastard Feb 2019 #11
I think this is sad Mosby Feb 2019 #12
I will give him credit for his ideological consistency genxlib Feb 2019 #14
The problem for this idiot isn't that the government wasn't there for him; The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2019 #16
That is my point genxlib Feb 2019 #17
This knucklehead once again proves Lyndon Johnson's point: The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2019 #15
+1000 alwaysinasnit Feb 2019 #24
This is a much better then usual rawstory article. Thanks MrS irisblue Feb 2019 #18
"the dogma propagated by Republicans is literally toxic to a majority of their constituents" Martin Eden Feb 2019 #20
"I would rather die" crazytown Feb 2019 #22
Another good read in the same vein The Mouth Feb 2019 #23
Trevor's been brainwashed. It only took an alcohol wipe. CaptYossarian Feb 2019 #25
Interesting. Ideology over life. I'll vote for the medicine. Firestorm49 Feb 2019 #26
Hundereds of millions of people in the last century alone chose ideology over life GeoWilliam750 Feb 2019 #30
K&R ismnotwasm Feb 2019 #27
Whatever the white lightning did to Trevor's liver, it also did to his brain. nt oasis Feb 2019 #28
K & R Duppers Feb 2019 #29
To some degree, perhaps we should just pity rather than ridicule GeoWilliam750 Feb 2019 #31

Aristus

(66,379 posts)
2. I hate to sound callous, but good riddance.
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 12:14 PM
Feb 2019

If, by their stupid, self-destructive beliefs and actions, they take themselves out of the polluted voting pool, the better for the rest of us.

Va Lefty

(6,252 posts)
4. I agree.
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 12:23 PM
Feb 2019

Years of RW hate radio and faux news have greatly contributed to this kind of toxic mindset.

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
8. Yep, the only issue I have is when they take the innocent down with them.
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 12:37 PM
Feb 2019

Otherwise, they can take their stupid, self-destructive beliefs and actions to the grave.

wcast

(595 posts)
6. There it is, the Southern Strategy in full bloom.
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 12:29 PM
Feb 2019

"We don’t need any more government in our lives. And in any case, no way I want my tax dollars paying for Mexicans or welfare queens.”

Most of these people are not politically aware, they are not disgusted by Trump as they have no clue of the day to day workings of government, politics in general, or the news. All they know is the government is against them and for minorities. This has been pounded into them for decades.

This is what some Democrats, especially those who pretend to be Centrist, (read corporatists), don't want to understand. Democrats already have a winning strategy. Reach out to base, propose solutions to problems that affect everyone, and we will continue to win elections like we did in 2018.

Progressive positions are mainstream positions, no matter what the media or others say.

leftieNanner

(15,102 posts)
21. Good point
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 02:58 PM
Feb 2019

And he doesn't seem to understand that the real "welfare queens" more than likely look a lot like him. Them and major corporation like Walmart, GE, Amazon... who do not pay their fair share of taxes and by underpaying their workers, they foist the cost of their livelihoods (SNAP and Medicaid) onto the taxpayers.

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
7. But Trevor is not mad at the state's elected officials. "Ain't no way I would ever support Obamacare
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 12:30 PM
Feb 2019

or sign up for it,” he tells Metzl. “I would rather die.”

Um, by all means, please proceed then. Make some space on the planet for those that are not total douche bags.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
11. I doubt this guy pays much in taxes or...
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 01:03 PM
Feb 2019

has much money to pay for anything.

That's not really the point, though. This is a perversion of that ability we have to sacrifice for a noble purpose. He seems to genuinely believe he is doing the right thing by sacrificing his life for the greater good.

Stupid? Yeah, but something we have to deal with-- understand how it happens and how to redirect this instinct.

Mosby

(16,313 posts)
12. I think this is sad
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 01:23 PM
Feb 2019

It's the GOP and hate radio that are truly at fault here, I'm not going to condemn a dying man because he was brainwashed.

People are not born racists, they are conditioned to be that way.

genxlib

(5,528 posts)
14. I will give him credit for his ideological consistency
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 01:49 PM
Feb 2019

These kinds of stories usually have someone in his position complaining about the Government not being there for him when he needs it.

At least he is willing to ride his deadly attitude to the grave.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,706 posts)
16. The problem for this idiot isn't that the government wasn't there for him;
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 02:01 PM
Feb 2019

it's his concern that the government will be there for those people.

genxlib

(5,528 posts)
17. That is my point
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 02:05 PM
Feb 2019

There are millions of people out there who don't want the Government to be helpful for that reason.

However, they almost always change their tune when they need help. Like it is often stated on this website, conservatives lack compassion until something effects them directly.

This guy didn't go down that road.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,706 posts)
15. This knucklehead once again proves Lyndon Johnson's point:
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 02:00 PM
Feb 2019

“If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”

crazytown

(7,277 posts)
22. "I would rather die"
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 02:58 PM
Feb 2019

And he did. And all those future GOP votes died with him. A pity he coildn’t have found a nice fatal traffic accident when he was 17.

The Mouth

(3,150 posts)
23. Another good read in the same vein
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 03:00 PM
Feb 2019

"Strangers in Their Own Land"

Addresses the same questions, although with a more narrow focus, specifically environmental and in the Lake Charles region of Louisiana, but the fact of people voting against their own health and well being is the same.

https://smile.amazon.com/Strangers-Their-Own-Land-Mourning/dp/1620973499/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1551121181&sr=8-1&keywords=strangers+in+their+own+land+by+arlie+russell+hochschild

GeoWilliam750

(2,522 posts)
30. Hundereds of millions of people in the last century alone chose ideology over life
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 05:40 PM
Feb 2019

I am not completely sure why people do.

GeoWilliam750

(2,522 posts)
31. To some degree, perhaps we should just pity rather than ridicule
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 05:46 PM
Feb 2019

We cannot change him, no.

Yet, he is substantially a product of his self-destructive environment, in the same way as people growing up in broken inner cities

Some few profit from the ignorance of those such as Trevor, and those few will not change their ways. Ever has it been thus, and decent people bury their children for the benefit of those few

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