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https://www.politicususa.com/2019/02/25/wallace-trump-indictment.htmlPosted on Mon, Feb 25th, 2019 by Jason Easley
Nicolle Wallace Bombshell: Trump Only Running For Re-Election To Avoid Indictment
Link to tweet
Avoiding Prison Is The Only Reason For Trump To Stay In The White House
Donald Trump has made it clear that he hates being president. In 2017, Trump was chatting with some friends after a round of golf when he said, That White House is a real dump. Donald Trump tantrumed through the government shutdown that he caused because it kept him from going to his private club in Florida. Trump is spending most of his time as president sitting around watching Fox News, tweeting, and talking on the phone.
Trump hates being president, but his motivation for wanting to keep the job is that the moment the next president is sworn into office, former president Trump could face a criminal indictment on a wide variety of charges.
This president is only interested in saving himself, and his one clear path to avoiding prison involves winning another four years in the White House.
IluvPitties
(3,181 posts)Dude is a criminal waiting for his time in the barrel.
mahina
(17,649 posts)Would be to take advantage of one of these long trips and while overseas, resettle somewhere that we have no extradition agreement.
imaginary girl
(861 posts)... run for president using the Chinese voting machines they've already trademarked, and then pardon him. Hopefully, they won't succeed.
leftieNanner
(15,084 posts)the Statute of Limitations. If he wins and serves another 4 years, (pardon me while I barf) then some of his crimes would not be prosecutable any more.
BigmanPigman
(51,590 posts)Elie Mystal, Above The Law, said that the SDNY will be able to nail tRump and his kids and possibly his grandkids (he joked) but his point was that the Southern District of NY has so many tRump crimes they can charge him and his family with that his only chance of delaying the inevitable is getting reelected. Also, no pardons will be able to be applied to the SDNY (Manafort and Kushner will be in this group too). This made me very happy to know. No pardons apply to the SDNY and the statute of limitations is not a problem. He even said that "the SDNY is like syphilis to tRump since it will never go away and will make him crazy".
Now the questions are WHEN he will finally get nailed, not IF and WHO will be nailing him and for WHICH particular crimes and WHAT will the punishment be? He is going down and so are his kids. SDNY will take care of them, even if Mueller doesn't. He is toast and he knows it. He should pray that he drops dead from a stroke since that will be his only way out. Order another bucket of chicken, moron!
leftieNanner
(15,084 posts)nt
euphorb
(279 posts)SDNY prosecutors are federal prosecutors (it's part of the DOJ) and deal only with federal crimes. They are not pardon proof. This seems to be a common misconception on DU. Prosecution for state crimes would come from the NY Attorney General.
BigmanPigman
(51,590 posts)and said on Chris Hayes that the SDNY will always be there to get him on crimes that Mueller isn't investigating. Why would Pence pardon him for crimes he hasn't been charged with? I think this is how Mystal sees the big picture going forward.
https://crooksandliars.com/2019/02/elie-mystal-nails-it-mueller-coming-trump
Hestia
(3,818 posts)stopped at this time, then reopened when he is perp walked, so basically, there is no statue of limitations. It's some special procedure that the feds can do.
Clash City Rocker
(3,396 posts)More information can be found here...
https://www.attorneyio.com/trump-may-be-indicted/
Harker
(14,015 posts)Half-jokingly.
Jeffersons Ghost
(15,235 posts)Come on, Vlad; take him off our hands. Teflon Don would be more fun than Snowden...
smb
(3,471 posts)ChazInAz
(2,567 posts)Nice little dacha in the middle of nowhere, someplace like Archangelsk.
No phones, no news crews, nicely isolated.
Polonium in his borscht.
NNadir
(33,515 posts)...there were enough Americans to allow this horrible human being in the White House in the first place.
It is a measure of our intellectual, moral, and spiritual decline.
mahina
(17,649 posts)honest.abe
(8,678 posts)He was already in legal trouble prior to 2016.
treestar
(82,383 posts)The day after he took office. IMO his ego means he has to have 2 terms. One term presidents aren't considered a success.
FakeNoose
(32,634 posts)Chump couldn't explain what happened to all the leftover money that didn't get used for the inauguration. 'Memba that? So abracadabra - create a re-election campaign fund and all the leftover money went whoosh. No reason to return any donations, they all went into the kitty. Problem solved.
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)Any other version is a ridiculous adjustment. It's amazing how easy it is to be correct simply by relying on normalcy, while others are scrambling to pretend normalcy doesn't apply this time
smb
(3,471 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)And lose bigly. I really don't think I will be able to take it if he wins another term. I'm pretty sure I will end up in a mental hospital. Seriously.
Evolve Dammit
(16,725 posts)Perfect. Hang in there. You are not alone.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)And welcome to DU! We have the fight of our lives in front of us, and our primary goal right now is to make sure that Trump never gets a second term!
True Blue American
(17,984 posts)To take us all away!
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)if their choice does not get nominated or be part of the November ticket. We have a person in office that is seriously dangerous to our democracy and our wellbeing, that must be first and formost in everyone's mind.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I would like to think that we all think the same way. Anyone on this board who will not back the Democratic nominee really shouldn't be here.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)I must disagree with your conclusion. I hope to hear a variety of ideas from the various candidates through the primary process and the voters will decide who will become the nominee. Preferring, supporting or backing a candidate this early on is hopefully due to the ideas the candidate had provided which are closest to those of the voter. As it all moves forward and the field is narrowed hopefully we will continue to align ourselves with the candidate that most closely matches our views. In the end there will be one nominee and that will be the decision of the process and the voters. Who that is remains to be seen, but I will vote for that candidate when the general election rolls around.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)until the Comey letter was leaked to the media
BumRushDaShow
(128,905 posts)Oh geez. Someone said his name so now he will be reappearing soon.
Docreed2003
(16,858 posts)You have to say Rudy Giuliani three times in order to make Rudy Giuliani appear! Oh Shit...sorry
TrishaJ
(798 posts)might see staying in office as a permanent "president" as his only option to avoid prosecution. Dictatorship as a necessity for survival.
oldsoftie
(12,533 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,001 posts)sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)Sneederbunk
(14,290 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,590 posts)They will be able to nail him and his family for state crimes and there is no statute of limitations. He can't be POTUS forever. SDNY will be patiently wiating to charge him and his family.
Sneederbunk
(14,290 posts)Ford pardoned Nixon of all present federal crimes. Agreed state crimes prosecuted by states are another matter.
BigmanPigman
(51,590 posts)He lived and worked in NY and like Manafort committed state financial crimes (mostly). Here you can read it here...
https://crooksandliars.com/2019/02/elie-mystal-nails-it-mueller-coming-trump
tableturner
(1,682 posts)You are getting them mixed up with the NY STATE attorney general or other state prosecutors in NY. THEY (NY STATE attorney general or other state prosecutors in NY), not any federal prosecutors, will handle state criminal violations, which are not pardonable by a president. Based on news reports, state criminal violations are expected, and again, they will be prosecuted by NY state prosecutors, not federal.
As for the SDNY, that office prosecutes ONLY federal crimes, which ARE pardonable by a president. Trump could issue pardons in advance of any possible indictments (like Ford did with Nixon) that would cover any federal crimes committed to that point. That would end any prosecutions for anybody pardoned by Trump, except for crimes newly committed after the date of any pardons.
Thunderbeast
(3,406 posts)Southern District IS Federal Court.
State charges may be filed by New York prosecutors, but that is not the same as the Federal actions.
robbob
(3,528 posts)do they eventually find their way up to the Supreme Court? Which reThugs are stacking with politically biased nominees as quickly as they can?
UTUSN
(70,686 posts)no_hypocrisy
(46,088 posts)Or by 2025, a jury won't send an old man to prison? Ask Bernie Madoff if that strategy works . . . . .
CDerekGo
(507 posts)Donald Trump is the ONLY sitting 'president' who's EVER started his re-election campaign the day after taking office. Drumpf is only 'running' for re-election for the M$O$N$E$Y$!!! Guess where all that $$$MONEY from his 'rallies' goes to? Re-Election? Nope, Jared Kushner, Donald Trump Jr, and Trumps Legal Expenses. Ok, so maybe some of this is to avoid Indictment, but to be honest, more and more is coming out about the fact that Sitting Presidents CAN BE INDICTED.
demigoddess
(6,640 posts)Evolve Dammit
(16,725 posts)The miscreant in the White House is a threat to our nation and needs to be held accountable for past and present illegalities. Does the framework of our country provide for this? Yes. Do the current occupants of elected office have the sworn commitment to uphold those laws? We will see in the next months and years. Here's hoping.
Progressive Jones
(6,011 posts)Delmette2.0
(4,164 posts)So busy that he won't have time to campaign. He will either be in court or consulting with attorneys and not on the campaign trail.
Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)And when America hears the enormity of each of their myriad of crimes, there is no way in hell they get pardoned, and even if they do, they'll languish in a state penitentiary instead.
smb
(3,471 posts)hibbing
(10,098 posts)proud patriot
(100,705 posts)WeekiWater
(3,259 posts)smb
(3,471 posts)oldsoftie
(12,533 posts)But i cant remember who to give the credit to
Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)Appoint himself President for life?
Guilded Lilly
(5,591 posts)N_E_1 for Tennis
(9,721 posts)A very colorful L on his forehead.
SWBTATTReg
(22,114 posts)leave a serial sexual predator in place for another 4 years without charging them with a crime? The damage to the American brand is worth it, that the presidency is not some ticket to criminal mischief or breaking the law without consequences.
This was surely not ever intended by the framers of the constitution. Never.
Also, hates being president and faces indictments if he leaves office doesn't ring true...pence would pardon him for the federal crimes, and as for the state crimes, I don't know. I suspect some of them would be thrown out due to the state not having the authority to prosecute the crimes, but some of them would stick perhaps.
Texin
(2,596 posts)So many of Mueller's actions, i.e., turning over parts of the investigation to the Southern District of New York, for example, which have filed (apparently) sealed indictments presumably naming him, could be deferred for several years beyond his presidency*. He's going to have to be removed physically from office. He will never leave it voluntarily. Every day he remains in place, he is able to whittle away at the norms of this society. He will consolidate his power more and more. He plans to hunker down for the rest of his mortal existence in the White House. Something must be done. The rethug led senate is allowing this to continue and will do so to enable them maintain a vice grip on rethug rule in perpetuity. There will be noting left for this country that isn't in the pockets of all their megabillionaire friends - of whom they wish to join their ranks.
Kahuna7
(2,531 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,648 posts)why would that change?
Cosmocat
(14,564 posts)Simple GD common sense, I have been saying this for over two years now when people put forward their beliefs that he won't run again ...
And, I have been saying for a long time now, that by the time the race heats up, he and the conservative media brainwashing media will flat out state it.
dchill
(38,481 posts)He almost literally can't leave the office.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Even before any investigation. His team put together his re-election campaign team, starting fund raising. His rallies were geared for it, from the start.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)All he's doing is delaying the inevitable for a few months. But since Idiot cannot think past the next 5 minutes, that's totally predictable.
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)DirtEdonE
(1,220 posts)Those should be the least of trump's worries.
We used to hang fucking traitors like trump in this country.
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,585 posts)Nor can he pardon himself, which he seems to believe is possible (with the SCOTUS he's put in place, that might be true).
I don't know how the statute of limitations factors into this.