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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMrs. Overall
(6,839 posts)As a member of congress, how on earth can he tweet something like this?
On edit: Just capturing the text of the tweet in case he deletes it:
Matt Gaetz
✔
@mattgaetz
Hey @MichaelCohen212 - Do your wife & father-in-law know about your girlfriends? Maybe tonight would be a good time for that chat. I wonder if shell remain faithful when youre in prison. Shes about to learn a lot...
Kingofalldems
(40,366 posts)They do anything they want.
Perseus
(4,341 posts)He proves it time and time again, very easy for him to do, he opens his mouth and that is it, he lets the World know his lack of intelligence.
OnDoutside
(20,868 posts)True Blue American
(18,579 posts)For threatening a witness. They were warned.
MelissaB
(16,595 posts)Leghorn21
(14,113 posts)GOOD TIMES, keep tweeting, you pack of LOSERS
ALL OF YOU
deminks
(11,537 posts)Evolve Dammit
(21,816 posts)CurtEastPoint
(20,095 posts)Kingofalldems
(40,366 posts)Mrs. Overall
(6,839 posts)Hope she covers this on her show tonight.
Perseus
(4,341 posts)I guess he should have not been so eager to help his master this time...
Both is a good word...
HopeAgain
(4,407 posts)They say you stop maturing when you become an active alcoholic.
MelissaB
(16,595 posts)Pachamama
(17,565 posts)18 U.S.C. §§ 1512(b), 1515(a)(1)(B).
Pachamama
(17,565 posts)superpatriotman
(6,882 posts)This guy's a piece of excrement.
at140
(6,277 posts)Duppers
(28,476 posts)at140
(6,277 posts)my wife sees to that LOL.
snowybirdie
(6,748 posts)Not embarassed. The weather is wonderful this time of year while my hometown is 22 and snowing. If you don't like it, don't visit!
at140
(6,277 posts)Happiest moment leaving Chicago was we sold the snow-blower LOL
My kinda town, but not in February. Awaiting election results tonight via WCPT online
at140
(6,277 posts)I got my hands full doing my taxes !!
snowybirdie
(6,748 posts)Tony Prepreckwinkle and Lori Lightfoot in a run off for Mayor. Both black women, one an openly gay woman. Changes are a comin to Chicago!
Evolve Dammit
(21,816 posts)SidDithers
(44,333 posts)dem4decades
(14,381 posts)I will love to hear him call him Mr. Trump as he's detailing Trump's criminality.
euphorb
(294 posts)dem4decades
(14,381 posts)at140
(6,277 posts)Mrs. Overall
(6,839 posts)NightWatcher
(39,382 posts)mopinko
(73,930 posts)balls in your court, nancy.
Tactical Peek
(1,430 posts)She's about to learn a lot.
LoveMyCali
(2,047 posts)Melania isn't faithful now. I hear it from the best people.
FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)Then she can get a cell of her own.
(May still not affect whether she's faithful, I suppose)
Hassler
(4,961 posts)mia
(8,481 posts)Legal experts: Trump committed witness tampering in plain sight
Legal experts are accusing Pres. Trump of obstruction and witness tampering because of what he said today on Twitter. This starts what could be the most consequential week of the Mueller investigation yet.
https://www.msnbc.com/brian-williams/watch/legal-experts-trump-committed-witness-tampering-in-plain-sight-1387862083610
Perseus
(4,341 posts)And I have a feeling there are a few pages on that report about obstruction of justice and witness tampering. I would not say he "gets away with it" yet, I am an optimist and I still think the orange buffoon and his family will pay for all the wrongdoing they have been involved in. Life has to be more just, and justice calls for crooks to pay their dues.
MrsCoffee
(5,825 posts)gademocrat7
(12,026 posts)Gaetz disgraces the office he holds.
George II
(67,782 posts)MLAA
(19,800 posts)Duppers
(28,476 posts)onenote
(46,228 posts)Of course, we have the majority now, so we could pass a resolution censuring him.
But keep in mind, the House has only censured one of its members 23 times in over 200 years, and only a handful of times in recent memory. So don't hold your breath.
MLAA
(19,800 posts)denbot
(9,950 posts)I really think our country lives or dies on the GOP's decision on siding with Trump/Russia, and what we can do to counter punch.
Leghorn21
(14,113 posts)first big hearing. For their first big witness, they
will roll out the red carpet for Michael Cohen
Heres the problem: Michael Cohen is going to
prison in two months for several crimes, including
LYING TO CONGRESS
Link to tweet
Keep tweeting, Gym, you can do better!!
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)Leghorn21
(14,113 posts)Tweets here:
https://mobile.twitter.com/search?q=%22Boss+Hogg%22
Been a great day for a bit of rightie PUBLIC HUMILIATION
and Im LOVIN IT!!
spooky3
(38,860 posts)Response to NastyRiffraff (Reply #31)
912gdm This message was self-deleted by its author.
cab67
(3,847 posts)Gaetz has crossed multiple lines here and should be censured by the House.
Leghorn21
(14,113 posts)Democrats plan to bring in their first star witness of
this Congress, Michael Cohen.
Michael Cohen is going to prison in 2 months, for
crimes including... lying to Congress.
Link to tweet
Could yall be any LAZIER???!
meow2u3
(25,251 posts)Kingofalldems
(40,366 posts)meow2u3
(25,251 posts)Duppers
(28,476 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(106,591 posts)and "is this legal?", rather than "Cohen has documentary evidence of Trump illegality"?
Why else do it in public?
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)wsbradshaw
(41 posts)This is exactly why the Mueller investigation will never be finished. Just when he is almost done something new pops up. Now he has to investigate Gaetz and all the people around him to see what makes him desperate enough to do something this stupid.
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)kentuck
(115,622 posts)And he may be?
Scruffy1
(3,544 posts)This is a felony and punishavle by up to 20 years. A censure is meaningless. Joe McCarthy got censured and reelected.
spanone
(142,054 posts)mainstreetonce
(4,178 posts)He is tweeting for Trump.
underpants
(197,176 posts)Trump Ally Rep. Matt Gaetz Insists Hes Not Threatening Michael Cohen by Suggesting Hell Expose Girlfriends
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-ally-rep-matt-gaetz-insists-hes-not-threatening-michael-cohen-by-suggesting-his-wife-will-leave-him
uponit7771
(93,532 posts)KY_EnviroGuy
(14,796 posts)We can bet Faux has already reserved him a time slot with kneeling bench in waiting.
.......
paleotn
(22,729 posts)are chargeable offenses. So is drunk driving. Something this pathetic little shithead is very familiar with.
onenote
(46,228 posts)I wish it was otherwise, but a careful reading of the relevant statutes offers Gaetz a number of arguments as to why his tweets don't violate the law.
First, the most relevant provision would appear to be 18 USC 1512, which states:
Whoever knowingly uses intimidation, threatens, or corruptly persuades another person, or attempts to do so, or engages in misleading conduct toward another person, with intent to
(1) influence, delay, or prevent the testimony of any person in an official proceeding;
(2) cause or induce any person to
(A) withhold testimony, or withhold a record, document, or other object, from an official proceeding;
(B) alter, destroy, mutilate, or conceal an object with intent to impair the objects integrity or availability for use in an official proceeding;
(C) evade legal process summoning that person to appear as a witness, or to produce a record, document, or other object, in an official proceeding; or
(D) be absent from an official proceeding to which such person has been summoned by legal process;
The key is the "with intent to" element. What exactly was Gaetz' intent. Hard to prove it was to influence, delay or prevent Cohen's testimony since its not as if Gaetz can take back the information he has put out there, nor is there any indication in his tweet that what Gaetz does is conditioned on what Cohen says. And it would be hard to prove his intent was to cause Cohen not to testify or withhold testimony for the same reason.
Second, subsection (e) provides a defendant with an affirmative defense: (e) In a prosecution for an offense under this section, it is an affirmative defense, as to which the defendant has the burden of proof by a preponderance of the evidence, that the conduct consisted solely of lawful conduct and that the defendants sole intention was to encourage, induce, or cause the other person to testify truthfully.
Tweeting is not unlawful conduct and Gaetz would undoubtedly argue that if he had any intent at all, it was to encourage Cohen to testify truthfully.
Gaetz is a monster, and his actions are reprehensible. But it's far from clear that he broke the law.
world wide wally
(21,836 posts)With DUI's to prove it.
yaesu
(9,448 posts)Takket
(23,802 posts)Given that Franken was called upon to resign immediately for kissing a woman long before he was a Senator, I would think by that standard Gaetz should be demanded to resign immediately for tampering with a witness as a SITTING rep.
if he refuses to resign he should be impeached. either way he should be arrested. this is open and shut witness tampering.
watoos
(7,142 posts)He belongs to the Freedumb caucus.
Kingofalldems
(40,366 posts)Gothmog
(182,015 posts)IluvPitties
(3,185 posts)TheRealNorth
(9,647 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)you get fleas. These are the types of people that Cohen aligned himself with.
But really, I guess these guys like Cohen and Stone aren't like this, but when you're in deep legal trouble, and you know you have serious powerful enemies, I would fess up to my wife about affairs (if she didn't already know), so that would take that threat off the table, and she'd hear it first from me. But it seems like these guys are convinced to the bitter end that they will get away with anything and everything. Never give up the ship.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(137,388 posts)arthritisR_US
(7,812 posts)criminal tweet.
dlk
(13,339 posts)czarjak
(13,678 posts)
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