another IS CHRIS MATTHEWS ILL ..... leaving msnbc ?? WHAT IS GOING ON

[trueblue2007]

Brian Williams Could Replace Chris Matthews on MSNBC: Report

According to a new report from Page Six, Brian Williams could be up for a big promotion at MSNBC in the near future. The former NBC Nightly News anchor, who was removed from that position following a scandal surrounding his exaggerated memories of experiencing combat in Iraq, has spent the past few years hosting 11th Hour with Brian Williams. In that late-night time slot, he consistently gets more viewers than both Fox News and CNN. That ratings success has led to new talk that Williams could end up replacing veteran host Chris Matthews in the 7 p.m. hour on MSNBC.

This February, Matthews’ Hardball rated last in the coveted 25-54 news demo behind Fox and CNN. Along with Rachel Maddow, Williams is expected to lead the network’s 2020 coverage, as he did on Election Night in 2016 and 2018.







https://www.thedailybeast.com/brian-williams-could-replace-chris-matthews-on-msnbc-report

[hlthe2b]

1. ????

At least Williams was unsuccessful (if reports were at all accurate) in trying to bump Laurence a couple of years ago...

[ffr]

2. Good. And let him take is Hillary Clinton hating wife with him out the door.

As much as he was a middle-left pundit, both he and his wife left a dirty trail of lies and deceit towards Hillary Clinton at their every remark. I forever hold it against them.

[blm]

10. His wife had a good relationship with HRC

Even acted as a spokesperson at some events. Maybe you are thinking of someone else?

[ffr]

59. You are correct. I was wrong.

I thought Andrea Mitchell was his wife. Can't stand listening to her snarky voice.

[YOHABLO]

65. Her husband is Allen Greenspan Chair of the Federal Reserve of the United States (1987 to 2006)

[Laura PourMeADrink]

70. So glad I didn't retain or tell someone that Chris's wife hated Hillary. But, no biggie, understood.

[maxsolomon]

128. Good god you were really off base!

Andrea Mitchell is the Elaine Chao of broadcasting.

Is Matthews even married? IDK.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

66. Expand the base !

[BeyondGeography]

3. Sounds like his ratings are ill

[Different Drummer]

6. I won't watch him.

I immediately change the channel when Ari goes off.

[BeyondGeography]

7. Ari blows him away

Matthews is junk food in comparison. People have tuned him out.

[onetexan]

19. agree, i really like Ari - very factual and insightful

and his guests are good choices as well

[DeminPennswoods]

56. Ari's schtick is getting as bad as Matthews'

imo.

[onetexan]

77. i don't think so. Matthews is like a grumpy uncle.

Hard for me to sit through his programs without wincing.

[Grasswire2]

94. and he interrupts, too nt

[Eyeball_Kid]

106. Ay! Does he interrupt!

I sometimes empathize with his guests. He doesn't give them a chance to fully form and express an idea. He's got to bust in there with that raspy trumpet of a voice and not allow guests to tell him something he doesn't know. What is that, anyway? He drifts into old memories like a demented uncle. He treats his show as if the guests are just fill-ins between his storytelling ventures. Come on. The network pays tweetie's guests to be interrupted by the host. No one in the line-up of anchors is worse.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

64. ugh. Ari is lightweight in comparison. IMHO. Let's make a bet. If they boot

Chris, MSNBC rating will fall. I believe. By how much - our bet.

[BeyondGeography]

91. Depends on the topic

Ari’s shows on the Trump case, which is all everyone has been doing for the past 18 months, are more thorough, more insightful, feature better guests and are led by a guy who understands the law. Matthews understands politics and will measure up much better once the primary horserace starts, but that’s not going to be interesting until the fall.

That said, if the choice is Tweety and Brian Williams, leave it be. Matthews is a much better option than Williams, who is a bore.

[malaise]

111. +1,000

[whathehell]

103. Matthews content is as good as anyone's

It's his delivery and "style" that annoys some.

[Honeycombe8]

133. Agree. Matthews worked in the Dem. Party and is very knowledgeable.

No one can spout prior politicians and data like he can, based on personal experience. But his manner is annoying at times. I'm used to it, though. I've been watching him for many many MANY years.

[whathehell]

139. I'm glad to hear you say that.

There's so much criticism of him here, I thought for sure your response was going to be negative. Thanks for surprising me.

[FloridaBlues]

4. J

Joy Reid could do it!

[Glimmer of Hope]

13. Oooh. I would watch her every night.

[Irishxs]

28. Don't care for Joy.

Something about her voice that bugs me.

[Blue_true]

45. Why do people always say that about a woman, never a man?

Brian Williams' voice remind me of a car salesman, but he is generally factual in his reporting, so I watch his show when I get a chance.

I honestly think that Chris Matthews is very ill. He has a horribly persistent cough that seem to be more than a passing thing.

[Honeycombe8]

135. Several posters said the same thing in this thread about Matthews.

He's male, last time I looked. Not I really looked.

[TeamPooka]

53. enjoy your time in my ignore list for that classic

[DoctorJoJo]

62. Me Either--That Would Be a Sure Skip In My House!

[Raine]

109. Same here

whenever she comes on I change the channel and it's not about her voice for me..

[LanternWaste]

123. I don't care much for Irishxs...

Something about his post that bugs me.





(Six of one, half a dozen of the other... notice how banal and irrelevant the sentiment now seems?)

[Irishxs]

129. She--Not "he"

Entitled to my opinion, just like you.

[Honeycombe8]

134. Same here. I click it off, when I happen upon her show.

She's not as good as the others.

[elfin]

137. Same here. I went from crazy for her to tired of her

Can't pinpoint when it happened, but it did. Now switch when she is on. Usually to CNN or turn on the radio to local or national PBS. Or else turn everything off and actually get things done.

[Duppers]

81. Same here.

She used to have some off days but she consistently great now.

👍

[jcgoldie]

35. Joy would be an awesome choice

I agree.

[malaise]

5. I won't watch lyin Brian n/t

[hlthe2b]

8. Late night (when I am occasionally awake), I can stand him... Prime time, I don't think so.

[malaise]

11. I'm sleeping by then

[Marie Marie]

22. I'm with you on that malaise...

never been a fan of Brian Williams and that was sealed when he was exposed as a liar. I won't be watching.

[malaise]

131. True

I've never been a fan

[bdamomma]

25. I'm

not to crazy about him either after Lawrence I turn off the TV.

[hibbing]

61. Never appreciated his attempts at humor

He acts so smug and like his beltway cocktail party jokes are just oh so clever. Just my two cents.

Peace

[malaise]

138. You nailed it

Lame and corny as ever

[Honeycombe8]

136. Same here. nt

[Ilsa]

9. I thought Mathews might retire soon because

of his health and his diabetes.

I can't watch Chris M. Too noisy and too crazy.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

32. wow, I am a huge fan, did not know he had diabetes. :( Oh...see you didn't like

him...sorry

I have NEVER understood why DUers don't like Mathews. Sure, Bush years, he said something, blah blah blah.

There is no one like him. No one who can instantly pull a historic bit of info out of his butt. No one who actually worked for Tip O'Neil and the fucking peace corps. I am so sad if this is true.

Jesus, take every other slot for annoying Chris Hayes thru Brian liar Williams - just save Chris for before the bore.

[Ilsa]

36. I used to like him, but

Whenever I've watched him over the last year or so, it seemed like his comments and criticism were all over the place or even wrong. I mostly like him as a person, but his host appeal has waned on me.

[Hoyt]

40. I like him too. He's one of the old Democrats going back to Carter, Muskie, etc. Served in

Peace Corp.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

41. Yes ! I've been thinking that we need to be less harsh and less

reactive as a group. It's one thing Trump has taught me...we have to be more tolerant of people who we do not agree with 100% and try to observe their basic values. If people have a good core, accept the time that they said this or that.

[Blue_true]

46. Bingo. nt

[Hekate]

90. What you said

[nolabear]

104. I think that's smart. Intolerance isolates and divides us.

Each person has to find their line but if we shun everyone who makes a mistake or does something stupid we’re easy to divide and conquer.

[Ilsa]

112. I respect CM very much. I just don't enjoy watching him

Very much any more. I think I prefer a more quiet style of discussion.

[Duppers]

84. Too often he speaks as if he's yelling

And it's not just at the opening of the show.

Will not watch him both for his voice and content. He certainly doesn't keep updated and is just not as sharp as he thinks he is.

[Grasswire2]

95. and his old recurring malaria..

from his time in the Peace Corps.

[Blecht]

12. I hope he enjoys a long retirement away from all networks

The man is a tool -- he is a big reason that I have stopped watching cable news.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

33. He is NOT a tool

[RandySF]

14. He's getting old like the rest of us.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

34. Oh man, that makes me so sad

[Blue_true]

49. Living forever is not part of the package for humans.

But really, does anything live forever. Our Sun and Galaxy will both stop functioning at some point. Yes, we are talking billions of years for the Sin and Galaxy, but both will perish.

I actually feel fortunate that we have relatively short lives in Universe dinensions, if we are wise, we would seek to make every second of our lives meaningful.

Sorry about wigging out on you, but dying isn't something that I chose to dwell on, there is just too much living to do.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

55. You made me flash back to my professor in college

who asked us what are the truths in life? Of course, all of us lower-thinkers said death. Wrong! He said, you never know, you could be the first person who lives forever. The only truth in life is change.

I have never had anyone I love die until my dog did 93 days ago. I keep thinking he will appear or someday I will see him again. I know it's intellectually absurd - but I am kind of in that place now - yearning to believe in the intellectually absurd.

I am not into the "making every second of our lives meaningful" - more into " I am going to do exactly what I want to do at any given moment" mode.

[Blue_true]

125. Unfortunately, I have seen lots of death.

You are in a mourning period over your pet's death. Given that is a first for you, that makes it tougher. What you are experiencing is a normal human reaction. Sorry, I did not know about what you are going through.

[FM123]

127. Laura, I am sending you a big hug!

I remember what it was like when my babydog passed, it broke my heart in a million+ pieces.

[dem4decades]

15. I like Williams show. He has good panels. Matthews i can't watch.

He is surprised by information he thinks is new that's been out there by weeks or even months.

[rickford66]

16. He was doing a lot of coughing lately.

Maybe something more serious than a cold or flu.

[Blue_true]

51. That is what I feel.

I know that a lot of people here don't like him, but I think that he is fundamentally a good person. He just seems to always be thinking his next thoughts and sometimes don't listen to or cut off his guests.

[EveHammond13]

17. I really enjoy Brian Williams. He is quirky and witty - it's fun and a little lighter for late night

[Grasswire2]

82. Love Brian Williams in the 11th hour slot.

It is a calm, intelligent, witty and sometimes touching wrap-up of the day's WH news.

He has the best print journos from the top stories of the day, and smart, informed guests. NO ringers. (Ari had Rep. Gaetz on recently and told us to listen to both sides!!!)

He is very skilled at his task. Focused and congenial.

I think putting him at 7 would be a mistake unless he also had 11th hour.

So what if he exaggerated an experience in the past. He has redeemed himself a thousand times over. He's a good guy.

[octoberlib]

114. I like him , too. He has a very dry sense of humor

and has done very well with the Mueller investigation stuff. Has good guests , too.

[Grasswire2]

121. yes, exactly

His guests are exceptional.

[EveHammond13]

18. as much as Matthews occasionally really annoys me - I certainly hope it's not a health issue.

He has a true passion and empathy for people - which I think he learned in the Peace Corps.

[Irishxs]

26. Forgot...

Chris was in the Peace Corp. I think he is probably a very decent person. Hope he isn’t ill.

[PatSeg]

29. Oh, I hope it isn't his health too

I don't really like his show all that much, but hope he is okay.

[PatSeg]

20. Oh, that would great

I like William's 11th Hour, but it is usually too late here, so I don't always watch it. I rarely watch Chris Matthews anymore. MSNBC has so much good talent in the evening, Matthews isn't among them.

[Florida Bull]

21. I like Ali Velshi

I hope Chris Matthews is OK, and returns. Especially for election night coverage.

But, if Chris Matthews is gone anyway, I think Ali Velshi should replace him. Or, Velshi could take the 6 pm spot with Ari Melber taking the 7 pm spot.

[Marie Marie]

23. I agree with your line up. Ali at 6 - Ari at 7.

[Maru Kitteh]

38. Ugh, no. Ali spends every show he does with the volume set at 9/10.

I just can't.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

24. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Was hoping he was on vacation. NOOO

He is the ONLY, did I say ONLY, host who has ANY sense and knowledge of history. Sure, he has pissed DUers off, but I love him.

I will never, ever, watch MSNBC again if this is true. Did I say NEVER, fucking NEVER>

[Maru Kitteh]

39. His knowledge of history is deep, wide, and personal.

I always enjoyed listening to Chris Matthews and his "back in the day" stories.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

42. Me too. There is no one like that on any network. I ALWAYS like to listen to

people who know more than I do. And, it's not the latest scoop, anyone can do that with a good staff. It's the people who can actually understand and feel and know what it means based on their years of learning and experience.

[radical noodle]

57. Maybe he's retiring?

He's old enough. He isn't the only one with knowledge of history, it's just that he's older and remembers living through that history.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

69. :) serious now - who else knows history? MAY-be Brian Williams?

[radical noodle]

73. Rachel knows a lot of history

So does Lawrence

[Laura PourMeADrink]

76. Hmmmmmm. Maybe I should try and give them a chance. Til now, just haven't been

able to get past the "I'm not a lawyer, but." "I'm not an accountant, but" and the ENDLESS preludes and "coming up next"s and the same black suit, every night. And for Lawrence, can't forget that tape, of him acting like an asshole...so much more than anyone of us who have ever acted like an asshole acted. Kinda like Amy acted toward her staff.

That said, I believe they both believe in what I do.

[radical noodle]

83. I'm not a big fan of Lawrence

but he's been around a very long time and knows history and legislation. Rachel gives a history lesson almost every night by tying today's news to something that happened in the past. She is a very skillful journalist and is by far my favorite.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

101. What are BoB's ?

[radical noodle]

102. BoB's?

Not sure what you're asking.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

118. I read your journal. Didn't know what BoB was. nt

[radical noodle]

120. I had no idea until I looked

Bernie or Bust

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

27. Hope Tweety's leavin... he's hardly a friend to Democrats and sabotaged Hillary.

Wish him the best of health though.


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

37. Every single person on every news channel sabotaged Hillary. To pick him out is

crazy talk. He is one thing though - the ONLY one who is truly erudite and knows history.

[radical noodle]

60. No, but he's the one

who said she couldn't even be running if she wasn't Bill's wife.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

67. hell, that's probably true ! it's not like we've had female presidents, now, is it.

[radical noodle]

72. She was a senator

There was no reason to say that unless he was just an ass. We'd had other women run before she did.

[bigtree]

30. what about Joy Reid??

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...she's been working hard for a weekday slot.

[Irishxs]

31. Or Nicole Wallace?

She’s great!

[stopbush]

107. You mean Joy Reid?

[bigtree]

115. lol

...yep, Reid.

F-ing B. Williams on my mind.

[brooklynite]

43. Answer: I don't care

I don't obsess over TV personalities.

And considering how many people here claim to hate him personally, I don't understand why anyone else cares about him.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

63. I care about him

[monmouth4]

44. You just know Kornacki wants that spot..n/t

[JCMach1]

47. Kornacki would get the 11PM slot probably

[radical noodle]

74. That would get me to go to bed earlier

He's my least favorite on that channel.

[radius777]

99. I can't take Kornacki, he's too both-siderist

and generic similar to Chuck Todd.

[floppyboo]

122. that's one of the reasons I like him!

I like facts

[JCMach1]

124. I sometimes like his analysis, but I don't appreciate the both sides BS either

[saljr1]

48. Chris is ok but I hate when he ask a question to his guest and then interrupts them before

they have a chance to answer the freaking question. I could never be a guest on his show because it would piss me off too much.

[rickford66]

71. Yup. He missed the class about question marks.

[NoMoreRepugs]

50. I for one would vastly prefer Ari over Kornacki if the 11pm

slot opens.

[Stonepounder]

80. Oh please, not Kornacki!

Would have to either change to someone else, or ignore the news for an hour.

[B Stieg]

52. Sorry, but it's really hard to watch him talking over...

every single guest! He should retire.

[Duppers]

87. Yep. 👍 nt

[radical noodle]

54. Brian Williams is far better

than Tweety. I wondered where Chris has been, since Steve Kornacki has been subbing for him. I usually change the channel for that hour. I don't care for Kornacki either.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

79. Are you Brian Williams in real life??

[radical noodle]

85. I wish

No, I'm just an old lady who has also been around a long time.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

100. LoL

[DoctorJoJo]

58. I Could Never Stand Matthews, Glad to See Him Go. Steve Has Been Great This Week.

[YOHABLO]

68. When I read that Mathews was instrumental in Phil Donahue's departure I soured on him.

[Grasswire2]

89. a dismal episode, wasn't it?

That was an enormous loss for the audience. There was really no one like Donahue. I wish he could come back even now.

I also hated when CNN dumped Aaron Brown for Anderson Cooper. Aaron Brown got me through 9/11, with enormous professionalism that day.

[nolabear]

105. Aaron was a huge presence here in Seattle before CNN destroyed him.

I even watched his late late show on CNN. It was quirky and great. Then they just lost him somehow.

[Ananda62]

75. He's on vacation

Per @Hardball on Twitter. He’ll be back on Monday.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

78. I love you. Wonder if I can get the last hour of my life back. :)

[Grasswire2]

92. Laura, I sincerely wish that they would bring a co-host for Tweety.

I have been thinking that he is sick, for months. The old malaria keeps recurring, and his type 1 diabetes is bound to take a toll at times. And he's been coughing for months and can't hide it.

Tom Brokaw took on a consulting role, eventually. Tweety could do the same, although giving up the host spot would be very, very difficult.

I sense that he likely wants to hang tough until Trump is adjudicated at least. You are right that his body of knowledge is invaluable as a resource.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

98. Wow..did not know he had malaria. I won't ever call

Melania that again. It made me sad that they didn't let him be the anchor for the last election. I picture his perfect day would be to follow a national election and report it like the old days when you had to wait and no one told you who would win with 5% of the vote.

He does not do well on a panel or anything collaborative. Imho. I just don't know yet. Too new.

[samplegirl]

96. Good I'm glad he's coming back

And not a health issue. Chris Matthews has come a long way.... at one point I really hated watching him diring the Bush years and how he cheerlead for GW. He’s been in the domocrstic corner for some time now!

[Pepsidog]

86. Katy Tur deserves a shot. She is smart and tough.

[unitedwethrive]

108. Nooooo! She misspeaks more than anyone else on that channel. And many of her supposed jokes are

just awkward. I always turn change the channel when she comes on.

[Grasswire2]

110. me too

Her "guys" chit chat leaves me as cold as the awkward "banter" at transition times.

[Pepsidog]

119. I guess we all have our preferences. Brian Williams is a nice guy an got a bad deal when he lost the

nightly news, but let hm stay at 11:00. Get rid of “both- sider” Chuck Todd. Katy Tur IMO challenges guests, I like her. I cannot believe I like Nicole Wallace after years of her service to Bush, but she is brilliant.

[radius777]

88. I'm a fan of both Matthews and Williams.

Matthews, love him or hate him, is one of a kind and authentic. He's intellectually curious and is constantly trying to see new angles and how it all fits together. He's a political junkie like the rest of us and that really comes across on his show.

I strongly disagreed with his moralizing against the Clintons over the years. But that was his view at the time which he has come to regret, seeing how badly the country went down the tubes during the Bush era.

Williams is a good news man who imo was unfairly treated over his mistake, which is minor in contrast to the world of lies we live in the Trump era.

I don't think Williams can do "Hardball" though. He's much more of a laid-back personality which works well for his 11th Hour show.

[Grasswire2]

93. agree with everything you say.

I would be especially sad not to have Brian in the last show of the night.


I watch three shows. Nicolle, Ari (although I might turn him off half way through) and Brian. Brian is my fave.

I would watch Tweety (watched him for years and years and years) but that time is not good.

[radius777]

97. Nicolle's show is excellent. /nt

[UniteFightBack]

116. Agree! nt

[RandiFan1290]

113. Haven't watched that turd since he helped bush in 2000

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and was a cheerleader for the Iraq invasion.

Never understand how so many 'democrats' watch that garbage.

[Paladin]

117. I've said for months that Matthews looks and sounds like he's failing.

Brian Williams would be a definite improvement.

[pwb]

126. Could be because he sucks as a news talker.

Big money turned him into a bothsider.

[Raine]

130. Matthews will be BACK on Monday

that's what Steve said when he came on tonight, Matthews has been on vacation.

[Honeycombe8]

132. MATTHEWS IS ON VACATION! He'll be back Monday.

Link to tweet