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global1

(25,242 posts)
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 10:26 AM Mar 2019

The Crap Doesn't Stop - My Head Is Spinning This Morning......

I wake up to Trump's tweets about Cohen and then the lies surrounding giving Kushner Security Clearance. Everyday we get drawn further and further into the cesspool of Trump. This has got to stop. It's got to be stopped. Mueller and the House Dem Investigations has to get to the bottom of all this corruption and put a stop to it once and for all.

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The Crap Doesn't Stop - My Head Is Spinning This Morning...... (Original Post) global1 Mar 2019 OP
K and Arrrrrgh! DontBooVote Mar 2019 #1
*snort* smirkymonkey Mar 2019 #3
Heh-heh. And that's not the category of "Arrrrrgh" you'll hear on Talk Like a Pirate Day! DontBooVote Mar 2019 #5
So not like "Arrrrrgh, gimme rum!" smirkymonkey Mar 2019 #17
Perhaps like nostalgia for the days when "arrrrugula" was a scandal. Marcuse Mar 2019 #40
Yeah, me too. Coffee through the nose! Mr. Evil Mar 2019 #19
Yep, cable news ran videos last night of both the czarina and trump... brush Mar 2019 #2
Doesn't this make Kelly culpable? A party to treason? NT ALBliberal Mar 2019 #14
trump is the actual culprit. He ordered Kelly. brush Mar 2019 #23
Yes to his credit he filed the memo. But it seems to me ALBliberal Mar 2019 #29
He has a military mind. Scruffy1 Mar 2019 #65
Good points ALBliberal Mar 2019 #66
Kushner is probably selling those secrets on his Middle East tour.. HipChick Mar 2019 #4
Probably? Mr. Evil Mar 2019 #20
Is Dr. Evil your brother? CrispyQ Mar 2019 #27
Nah... He just gets all the publicity. Mr. Evil Mar 2019 #41
Scary thought forklift Mar 2019 #25
Exactly what I thought Farmer-Rick Mar 2019 #64
I agree 100% ok_cpu Mar 2019 #6
+1 ffr Mar 2019 #8
hahahaha forklift Mar 2019 #26
Looks no different markbark Mar 2019 #56
it's the GOP MOB! Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2019 #35
And it is the GOP that is allowing it to happen. . . . pdsimdars Mar 2019 #7
You have to admit True Blue American Mar 2019 #9
Did you see that story a few weeks ago? pdsimdars Mar 2019 #18
Not surprising True Blue American Mar 2019 #30
Carl Reiner is saying so -- holding on 'til Trump is gone.. Grasswire2 Mar 2019 #43
My mother as well. She's 95. LuckyLib Mar 2019 #58
And the people (citizens) are staying in their bungalows, watching it unfold Grammy23 Mar 2019 #10
Wait till the recession hits. Or when Trump refuses to leave after a Democrat is elected DemocracyMouse Mar 2019 #15
I fully understand True Blue American Mar 2019 #31
We should be filling the email/vmail boxes of every Member of Congress so they're full every day. CrispyQ Mar 2019 #33
Many, many people did this during the Kavanaugh hearings and look where it got us. llmart Mar 2019 #39
It's exactly what Individual 1 and ilk want Dixc Mar 2019 #47
Recession starts soon after Nov 2020 elections at140 Mar 2019 #53
Fat, dumb and happy. Grammy23 Mar 2019 #54
This is the result Dump wants.... dawnie51 Mar 2019 #11
What makes it worse is that each new thing obscures Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2019 #12
you nailed it! nevergiveup Mar 2019 #13
Yep, he's got this entire nation -- every one of us -- swimming in shit. KPN Mar 2019 #16
Take a deep breath and calm down vlyons Mar 2019 #21
Thanks for your calming voice (and perspective) yonder Mar 2019 #46
Remember these two! moonseller66 Mar 2019 #22
Rev. Jeremiah True Blue American Mar 2019 #34
I hear you forklift Mar 2019 #24
At this point you should just assume that anything you can imagine is infact actually going on. Afromania Mar 2019 #28
Taking down the GOP crime family isn't going to be easy, when 2/3rds of the Federal gov & 2/3rd of yaesu Mar 2019 #32
I thought something like that might happen after 9/11 but... llmart Mar 2019 #42
It's beyond comprehension how the Republican party can go along with this... PeeJ52 Mar 2019 #36
Do we even NEED to get to the bottom ? Pluvious Mar 2019 #37
I'm with you! FiveGoodMen Mar 2019 #52
It is a defilement of things I hold sacred Taraman Mar 2019 #38
a review of the powers of the presidency is in order, too Grasswire2 Mar 2019 #44
Oh Yeah! Aussie105 Mar 2019 #69
WWMSMD moondust Mar 2019 #45
There are plenty of crises to cover Taraman Mar 2019 #48
Tell them that. moondust Mar 2019 #50
Spam deleted by MIR Team Hooterville Mar 2019 #49
What lie is he telling about the fact that he interfered? Eliot Rosewater Mar 2019 #51
I fear that the only remedy we will eventually have will be the ballot box in November 2020 jimlup Mar 2019 #55
The ONE thing we CAN do is: calimary Mar 2019 #57
This message was self-deleted by its author standingtall Mar 2019 #59
There is no bottom with him and his corruption. Marie Marie Mar 2019 #60
From Cohen testimony and docs alone, it's plain that Trump is guilty of the same financial crimes yerop Mar 2019 #61
Justice Dept indicted two more on hacked emails 100K to help (now deceased) Peter Smith Linda Ed Mar 2019 #62
it's hard to process, non stop corruption. I tune it out sometimes Demovictory9 Mar 2019 #63
I'm right there with you, Global1 n/t Niagara Mar 2019 #67
"The Crap Doesn't Stop - My Head Is Spinning This Morning" Nitram Mar 2019 #68

brush

(53,776 posts)
2. Yep, cable news ran videos last night of both the czarina and trump...
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 10:34 AM
Mar 2019

flat out lying that her and Kushner's security clearances went through the proper channels, She claimed there were no issues with the clearances and trump said he stayed out of it.

The reason the videos were run is because of the NYT story that came out yesterday that trump ordered Kelly to issue the clearance to Kushner after intel declined his clearance.

They are all a pack of lying grifters.

brush

(53,776 posts)
23. trump is the actual culprit. He ordered Kelly.
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 12:11 PM
Mar 2019

Kelly, to his credit, and I am no fan of his, filed a contemporaneous memo of trump's order so that there is a record of him being ordered to issue the clearance.

ALBliberal

(2,340 posts)
29. Yes to his credit he filed the memo. But it seems to me
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 12:26 PM
Mar 2019

He should have gone further knowing that he sensitive nature of the information Kushner would have his hands on. Maybe resigning in protest? And him being a general? It just astounds me the lack of patriotism of the whole bunch.

Scruffy1

(3,256 posts)
65. He has a military mind.
Sat Mar 2, 2019, 03:07 PM
Mar 2019

To him the Orange thing is CinC. He obeyed the order and covered his ass. His only other option was resignation.. I'm sure it was tough decision, but in his mind he was probably thinking that leaving would open the door to someone totally nuts. I'm sure the intelligence community has the Fagin's apprentice and son in law under constant surveillance.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
4. Kushner is probably selling those secrets on his Middle East tour..
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 10:39 AM
Mar 2019

since we are not hearing a damn detail about it...

making sure he lines up his pockets before this gig is over...

Farmer-Rick

(10,163 posts)
64. Exactly what I thought
Sat Mar 2, 2019, 09:46 AM
Mar 2019

I'm sure he's selling off all our state secrets. There isn't anything these liars and grifters wont do for a couple of bucks. I bet they offered them to Putin first.

ok_cpu

(2,050 posts)
6. I agree 100%
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 10:46 AM
Mar 2019

Last edited Fri Mar 1, 2019, 11:44 AM - Edit history (1)

But, I don't understand how the Rs in Congress are getting a pass. Not here, but in general. There should be enormous pressure on them to do their jobs. They've abandoned their oath of office, turned their backs on our coequal government, and surrendered all independence and oversight.

There's no way in hell this man and his cabal should still be in office.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
9. You have to admit
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 11:14 AM
Mar 2019

Trump is really hurting the Funeral Home Industry.

Everyone I talk with vows to live until they see those so and So’s out of office!

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
18. Did you see that story a few weeks ago?
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 11:56 AM
Mar 2019

This is a story I saw on the news that a WW2 veteran was dying and the doctor tells you when it is near the end and he told the guy and just before he slipped into a coma and died he said it looks like he won't get to see the Mueller report. Imagine that. That was his last thought, disappointed because he wouldn't get to see it.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
30. Not surprising
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 12:31 PM
Mar 2019

I had a woman tell me this morning that her Father, a staunch Democrat lived long enough to see Barack Obama become President.

I read in the AAA magazine they are celebrating the 75th Anniversary of DDay and it would probably be the last time as they are 95, 96 years old.

All I could think of was we have come to this from that Celebration.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
10. And the people (citizens) are staying in their bungalows, watching it unfold
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 11:17 AM
Mar 2019

On their TVs and laptops. Not enough people care to even contact their congressmen to register a complaint. A few will. Most will not. It is like we’ve almost lost the will to fight. I don’t refer to the citizens of DU. Many here are actively involved in fighting back. But the vast majority are just not watching or don’t think their speaking up will matter. It is as if they’ve already thrown in the towel.

People should be marching in the streets — coast to coast. North, south, east and west. In the big cities and tiny towns. But there is mostly silence. It is heartbreaking to see this happen. I believe that tRump will be removed or may even die from the stress of the pressures from Putin and others on him. But by then the damage will be massive and will not be repaired before I go into that gentle night myself. I just wonder when it will occur to the masses that they do have a voice. Will they ever wake up?

If we all descended on DC today would it even matter? Have we waited until too late?

Sorry for the down tone but it just feels like they are not moving fast enough to save us. And all I can ask is why?

DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
15. Wait till the recession hits. Or when Trump refuses to leave after a Democrat is elected
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 11:39 AM
Mar 2019

Most of us are holding down 2-3 jobs just to make ends meet. Going after every assinine thing is an unaffordabke expenditure of time. I'm feeling time-stressed just pointing this out.

CrispyQ

(36,461 posts)
33. We should be filling the email/vmail boxes of every Member of Congress so they're full every day.
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 12:36 PM
Mar 2019

Voting is only our first duty as citizens. Calling & telling our MOCs what we want is the second part. You can call all of your MOCs every day & it only takes a few minutes. You don't drive or fly anywhere.

What to do when you call your MOC: Always be courteous. No swearing. If you get vmail, you don't get a lot of time for a message, so keep it short & sweet. Leave your name & zip code at the end.

Also, don't just call your own MOCs. When Cory Gardner, my senator, spoke out against the shutdown, I called some key GOP senators & asked them to stand with Senator Gardner against the shutdown.

It probably doesn't matter that I do it, but if all of us did it...

The last time we filled their boxes to overflowing was the financial crisis of 2008. Are we there yet?

on edit: We should start a campaign called MOC Monday.

llmart

(15,536 posts)
39. Many, many people did this during the Kavanaugh hearings and look where it got us.
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 01:08 PM
Mar 2019

What about the millions of people who marched all across America in the various women's marches? It got tremendous press and people of all ages marched. We still ended up with Trump not gone. Think about the young people and how in vast numbers they marched against gun violence.

Yes, I do believe that all of that helped somewhat, but we were and are powerless against an evil foreign entity like Russia who hijacked our elections and nothing has been done about it yet.

I honestly have no answers any longer. I have Trump fatigue. I wonder sometimes if emails and phone calls even get looked at by the person we're addressing. I'm fortunate to live in a state that has two Democratic Senators, but my district was gerrymandered and went from a Dem rep to a GOP rep because of it.

Dixc

(52 posts)
47. It's exactly what Individual 1 and ilk want
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 01:48 PM
Mar 2019

Like Cohen said, "greatest infomercial in political history". Speak up and LOUD!

at140

(6,110 posts)
53. Recession starts soon after Nov 2020 elections
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 02:16 PM
Mar 2019

Can't wait that long. where are the people with pitch forks and brooms marching to protest Drumpf? People are too busy playing electronic games, watching soap operas, feeding their faces on junk food (Americans are more obese than ever), and smoking pleasurable weed.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
12. What makes it worse is that each new thing obscures
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 11:27 AM
Mar 2019

The very bad things from the day before. Someone predicted we'd be in an uproar for a day over Cohens testimony and then it would be forgotten. Trump's MO

For those of us waiting for the day when Republicans, or better stated any of them who have any kind of conscience, wake up and disavow Trump, they have no reason to. Because we forget about things the next day, they can keep supporting him with no consequences.

KPN

(15,643 posts)
16. Yep, he's got this entire nation -- every one of us -- swimming in shit.
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 11:40 AM
Mar 2019

Time to clean the shit up while we still can!

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
21. Take a deep breath and calm down
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 12:04 PM
Mar 2019

Trump and the Republican sewer is not going to get any better. We can't afford to freak out and lose focus. We can't afford to get discouraged. All of us sane, moral, normal people, which is the vast majority of regular Americans, want the Trump degenerate chaos to stop yesterday. But it is going to drag out some more, a lot more. And there is nothing that we can do to make the remedy happen faster -- except elect more Dems in 2020. We have to take the Senate. That is our task.

I am committed to not letting the Trump filth contaminate my mind with all his stupid distractions and daily outrages. I am committed to maintaining a cheerful attitude and encouraging people, who are sick to death of Trump to stay strong and focused on electing Dems.

The House Dems are doing their oversight job and trying to make up the 2 years of lost time that the last Republican House failed to do. They started out behind the 8 ball, and are doing their best to catch up. Mueller is doing his job to dot every I and cross every T. Just so, we must do our job to remain calm and focused.

moonseller66

(430 posts)
22. Remember these two!
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 12:06 PM
Mar 2019

Julius and Ethel Rosenberg

Jared and Ivanka!

We were "friends" with the Soviet Union at the time, not an enemy...just like today. Even so they were convicted of conspiracy for espionage on behalf of the Soviet Union.

How'd that turn out?

Well, they paid the ultimate price.
Will history repeat itself?

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
34. Rev. Jeremiah
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 12:37 PM
Mar 2019

Compared Jared and Ivanka to Joseph and Mary.

While in my old Church I was told I had to vote against Obama. Then got a Prayer Chain letter comparing Trump to Churchill. That Church now has 700 Pastors accused of molestation.

 

forklift

(401 posts)
24. I hear you
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 12:12 PM
Mar 2019

My patience has been running thin as well lately.

It is hard to hunker down and wait for a new day where these shenanigans have ended,

Afromania

(2,768 posts)
28. At this point you should just assume that anything you can imagine is infact actually going on.
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 12:24 PM
Mar 2019

Every wild ass thing I've thought has happened. At this point I'd only be surprised if insane things didn't happen. The best we can hope for at the moment is that we keep those fuckers tied up enough that nuclear war, or the new great depression, doesn't start. It's going to be a close damn call no matter how we slice it.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
32. Taking down the GOP crime family isn't going to be easy, when 2/3rds of the Federal gov & 2/3rd of
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 12:35 PM
Mar 2019

state gov belong to that crime family. Also, any attempt will be voided by the Supreme Court which is majority controlled by the GOP crime family. I don't see it happening unless a major change, movement, catastrophe outside of politics brings this country to its knees, shakes us to the core, something that will break the strangle hold of unfettered capitalism, return us to a true Democracy.

llmart

(15,536 posts)
42. I thought something like that might happen after 9/11 but...
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 01:14 PM
Mar 2019

our so-called "leader" of the time told us to go shopping. It did nothing to break the strangle hold on unfettered capitalism. Many Americans believed they had done their part by going out and buying red, white and blue underpants. (Yes, I saw them in the stores a day or two after 9/11.)

I honestly don't know what it will take to wake people up, but I'm quite sure I'll be dead and gone by then.

 

PeeJ52

(1,588 posts)
36. It's beyond comprehension how the Republican party can go along with this...
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 12:53 PM
Mar 2019

The blatant, outright, in your face lies, every day that they don't even try to defend any more. You write to your Republican representatives and they ignore you. They don't even hold town halls because they are scared to face their constituents. It's disgraceful. I can't take it any more either. I'm leaving for Canada next month and looking for a place to live. If I like it, I'm staying. I can't take living in 1984 any more.

Pluvious

(4,310 posts)
37. Do we even NEED to get to the bottom ?
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 12:59 PM
Mar 2019

How many discovered crimes is enough to begin the process ?

10 crimes ?

20 crimes ?

At some point, begin the prosecution.

LTMFU already !!!

Taraman

(373 posts)
38. It is a defilement of things I hold sacred
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 01:04 PM
Mar 2019

So we have an illegitimate president who was helped in his narrow election by a foreign adversary in an attack on the United States. His cult followers, who have also been compromised and betray their oaths to protect and defend every day, won't vote impeachment in the Senate. That is the limit of the Constitution? That's it?

Why is a "memo" from DOJ that a sitting president cannot be indicted binding? Because the Constitutional remedy is impeachment? That's really a stretch. The Constitution doesn't preclude indictment.

Meanwhile, the investigations go on (actually just starting in the House). Nothing will be done before 2020. This human wrecking ball of a President is causing damage every day. Every damn day.

I hope we survive this. If we do, there is much that has to be done to ensure this never happens again. Constitutional Amendments if necessary. Maybe modernize the definition of "treason". Why does the U.S. have to be in a declared war? When the Russians attacked our cyberspace, wasn't this an act of war?

Sheesh.

Aussie105

(5,395 posts)
69. Oh Yeah!
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 06:25 AM
Mar 2019

The founding fathers didn't want another powerful king like figure to rule the land.

Yet the President has Executive Orders at his disposal, special powers if he declares a National 'Emergency'?

You really don't want those powers in the hands of some maniac who thinks only of himself, now do you? Imagine the chaos he could create!
Oh, Wait! Not needing to imagine that at all, it's happening daily!

moondust

(19,979 posts)
45. WWMSMD
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 01:39 PM
Mar 2019

What Would Mainstream Media Do (without the nonstop Trumpublican train wreck providing them with an endless supply of crap to "discuss" )?

Taraman

(373 posts)
48. There are plenty of crises to cover
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 01:54 PM
Mar 2019

Healthcare, climate, infrastructure, ground water, etc. You know, Fourth Estate stuff.

moondust

(19,979 posts)
50. Tell them that.
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 02:02 PM
Mar 2019

I still wonder if MSM didn't want Dump to win because they knew he would be a disaster that would make their jobs easy.

Response to global1 (Original post)

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
51. What lie is he telling about the fact that he interfered?
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 02:03 PM
Mar 2019

I refuse to click on anything with his name as to social media or whatever.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
55. I fear that the only remedy we will eventually have will be the ballot box in November 2020
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 03:43 PM
Mar 2019

it shouldn't be but the Republicans have lost all sense of morality and country. They care only about one thing. Their own stupid hyper partisan agenda.

calimary

(81,238 posts)
57. The ONE thing we CAN do is:
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 03:58 PM
Mar 2019
UNITE BEHIND ONE DEMOCRAT FOR 2020.

That’s basically it.

Repeat:

UNITE BEHIND ONE DEMOCRAT FOR 2020.

Yes, I’m SHOUTING!!!

And frankly, I don’t much care who it is at this point. All I know is the lesson I HOPE we all learned in 2016 and 2018. When we divided into camps and fought with each other (2016), we got truomp. When we focused and got in lockstep together for ONE goal, we flipped the House of Reps.

Which approach works for YOU?

One approach not only didn’t work or didn’t help, and the other approach did work and rather mightily, too!

I ask again, in earnest (as EACH of us should): which approach works for YOU?

Response to global1 (Original post)

 

yerop

(89 posts)
61. From Cohen testimony and docs alone, it's plain that Trump is guilty of the same financial crimes
Sat Mar 2, 2019, 03:20 AM
Mar 2019

that Cohen and Manafort are going to prison for.

When oh when will we see Trump do the perp walk after an FBI raid on Mar-a-Lago like Manafort and Roger Stone enjoyed?

Linda Ed

(493 posts)
62. Justice Dept indicted two more on hacked emails 100K to help (now deceased) Peter Smith
Sat Mar 2, 2019, 04:29 AM
Mar 2019

Defendants Michael Liberty & Paul Hess charged in connection with alleged multimillion-dollar investment fraud scheme related to tech startup Mozido

Liberty was mentioned in an email as one of a few donors who pledged $100K to help Peter Smith find Clinton's emails from hackers

Two Defendants Charged in Connection with Alleged Multimillion-Dollar Investment Fraud Scheme

Nitram

(22,794 posts)
68. "The Crap Doesn't Stop - My Head Is Spinning This Morning"
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 11:32 AM
Mar 2019

I suggest anyone who feels this way take a deep breath and spend less time watching the news about Trump. If you haven't figured out by now the Trump is a hot mess of criminal fraudulence without an iota of goodness or human decency, then it's time to take a break for the sake of your own sanity. No one can stay outraged 24 hours a day and stay sane and healthy. I'm not suggesting normalizing his behavior or going totally numb. I'm suggesting that if you haven't developed coping mechanisms to protect your mental health from this unceasing onslaught of madness, then it is time to lower the volume and take up meditation, yoga. tai chi or some other mindful practices that will relieve stress and calm the mind.

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