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Sun Mar 3, 2019, 06:59 PM

I am for all intents and purposes... one of those "globalists"

It's my personal philosophy, my politics, something that has been formulated since I was about 20 years old.

It's my belief that race, ethnicity, borders, nations, and more are all social constructs, inventions of man, not of nature or divinity.

This also comes with the belief that everyone, regardless of what nation they are in or how wealthy they are or the wealth of their nation, should have a guarantee of certain minimum rights and protections. Just one of the applications of that being is that I support the eradication of infectious diseases left and right anywhere it can be done, drive as many as possible to extinction.

Something like that though would require internationalism, multinationalism, and transnationalism... things not possible in the wave of nationalism sweeping the world today.

And for what? What's the benefit of this nationalism?

It feels like this is gaslighting and it almost feels personal since this is my philosophy and something I've personally, physically, and financially supported. And then to see it described as some vague conspiracy with racial undertones right under the surface (And sometimes right out in the open), like not only what I support without any direct benefit to myself personally as immoral and wrong, but not my own beliefs which are created by people like George Soros. It's heartbreaking.

I'm not going to let nationalism be "business as usual", the opposite of this nationalism today is as much my identity as my religious beliefs, the color of my eyes, or my very name. That's just the way it is.

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TreasonousBastard Mar 2019 #1
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Response to ck4829 (Original post)

Sun Mar 3, 2019, 07:52 PM

1. Me too-- but I think most of us are globalists when we think about it...

Fear and hatred of "others" is something we simply haven't evolved out of yet. We still have that cave mentality that Cave #6 are the bad guys and we better get them before they get us. Or at least protect ourselves from them.

But, royalty being replaced by parliaments and war ceasing to be the preferred way to solve disputes, or soothe egos, have given us republics all over the world. And they for the most part work. Two brutal wars gave us the United Nations, which partly solved the problems of the League of Nations, although it has a way to go.

The EU has shown us that France and Germany will never again go to war (OK, we hope they won't...) Our own American Revolution and Civil War have shown us that indeed in unity there is strength. Our Constitution forbids interstate customs controls-- imagine if you had to deal with a passport check to go to work in NY from NJ. Visit a national park...

There are signs that the process is slowing down, perhaps even reversing, but the future of our planet depends upon it going forward.

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Sun Mar 3, 2019, 08:50 PM

2. I am also a free-trade, secular globalist


Climate change (AGW) is a GLOBAL problem.

Nuclear proliferation is a GLOBAL problem.

Tariffs are a GLOBAL problem.

Disease is a GLOBAL problem.

Religion is a GLOBAL problem.

All require global cooperation.

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