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Wed Mar 6, 2019, 11:28 AM

 

I'm losing faith in America ever recovering.

Seeing the enormous amount of defense of Trump all over social media and around the country. The fact that Trump has committed more crimes than anyone in history with no consequences. The entire Republican party is complicit. McConnell is putting so many far-right extremists on the federal courts, our rights are going to be eliminated.


I'm just having a hard time being positive about all this. If I had the means, I'd be leaving this country now.

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Reply I'm losing faith in America ever recovering. (Original post)
OliverQ Mar 2019 OP
zipplewrath Mar 2019 #1
empedocles Mar 2019 #3
zipplewrath Mar 2019 #4
empedocles Mar 2019 #6
TreasonousBastard Mar 2019 #2
empedocles Mar 2019 #5
BostonBlue Mar 2019 #10
Autumn Mar 2019 #7
Polly Hennessey Mar 2019 #8
zipplewrath Mar 2019 #13
Polly Hennessey Mar 2019 #15
BostonBlue Mar 2019 #9
lunatica Mar 2019 #14
Blue_Tires Mar 2019 #11
lunatica Mar 2019 #16
uponit7771 Mar 2019 #12

Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 11:30 AM

1. It'll take time

But I think the constitution has a fatal flaw in it that will be our downfall.
Every state shouldn't get 2 senators regardless of population.
In about 20 years, 70% of the senate will be controlled by 30% of the population.

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Response to zipplewrath (Reply #1)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 11:49 AM

3. If the current investigations continue to develop political momentum,

and that will 'take time' and patience, we can correct many important flaws.

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Response to empedocles (Reply #3)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 11:51 AM

4. Probably not

We can correct some, but I suspect we cannot correct the most important one.

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Response to zipplewrath (Reply #4)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 11:59 AM

6. That is a tough one. However, women can vote and continue to gain strength.

Slavery was the nation's biggest economic engine.

Britain had its entrenched 'Rotten Borough' . . . unentrenched?

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 11:48 AM

2. Go back and read about how Nixon was re-elected with the biggest majority in history...

and how he was disgraced soon after.

We have survived the Depression, Civil War, labor riots, Jim Crow, McCarthy, Father Coughlan,and so many other things. Far from perfect, we have an inner strength that makes itself known at the damnedest times.

The only real difference between now and 1861 is Facebook, and even that is just an extension of rumor mills and fake news that were going on back then.

Cheer up!

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Response to TreasonousBastard (Reply #2)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 11:53 AM

5. . . . and Robber Barons, Hitler, ReaganHood, Gingrich, putin.

Historical perspective is . . . somewhat reassuring.

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Response to TreasonousBastard (Reply #2)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 12:23 PM

10. Tech, internet is a game changer.

 

We're not coming back from this.

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 12:04 PM

7. I don't see how it does. Climate change is breathing down our necks, the courts are already stacked.

I don't see anyone doing anything about any of it. Small thinking isn't going to get us anywhere and the Pukes are going to fight tooth and nail to stop any change and centrists aren't going to go big enough to turn the tide.

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 12:19 PM

8. 1787 - Constitutional Convention

Contentious debate over state representation. There were two plans: the Virginia Plan and the New Jersey Plan. The Great Compromise: each state would get two senators and House of Representatives would be determined by population. Small states feared their voices would be drowned out which is why there are only two senators from each state. California and North Dakota are equal. Sigh 😔

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Response to Polly Hennessey (Reply #8)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 01:49 PM

13. It was never the plan

There were 13 colonies. Giving each state two senators didn't mean that the minority of the population could control 70% of the senate. Truth is, it would have been very hard for the minority to control the senate at all. It was supposed to give them a larger "voice" within government, to avoid the "tyranny of the majority". But I think history has proven that as the country expanded, it gave a fatally outsized voice to a minority. This is what lead to a civil war. I'm not sure what's going to happen this time.

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Response to zipplewrath (Reply #13)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 03:18 PM

15. Agree and I, too, worry.

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 12:22 PM

9. I hate to agree but it's over. The Genie is out of the bottle.

 

I'll be dead when it happens but civil war is coming.

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Response to BostonBlue (Reply #9)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 02:03 PM

14. Welcome to DU

But I wonder why you joined.

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 12:25 PM

11. Even if it doesn't we still fight to the bitter end

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Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #11)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 04:05 PM

16. My sentiments exactly

We may lose but for a great majority it won’t be because we gave up without a fight.

If that happened in our history we would still have slavery and only white men would be voting.

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 12:40 PM

12. America isn't the first country that has a cult like leader at the helm

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