Democrats Worry Targeting Trump Kids Could Backfire

[babylonsister]

Ugh. They're breaking and have broken the law, are part of his business and administration. This is a no-brainer imo. They are not underage children who don't know what they're doing.

https://politicalwire.com/2019/03/07/democrats-worry-targeting-trump-kids-could-backfire/

Democrats Worry Targeting Trump Kids Could Backfire
March 7, 2019 at 6:58 am EST By Taegan Goddard

“House Democrats have already gone to war with President Donald Trump. But there’s one target they’re skittish of hitting too hard: his children,” Politico reports.

“In public and private, Democrats see potential pitfalls in dragging Trump’s adult children into their political squabbles with the president. So even as they ramp up their investigations into Trump, senior Democrats are reluctant to scrutinize Trump’s adult children too much as part of their sprawling probes into Trump’s administration, campaign and business empire.”

“Democrats, in fact, would prefer to let federal prosecutors handle the family while they take on the president themselves. Yet Trump’s family members — including Donald Jr., Eric, Ivanka and son-in-law Jared Kushner — are so deeply involved in his business and presidency that it likely would be impossible to take a completely hands-off approach.”

[Dennis Donovan]

1. In the past, POTUS children were rarely, if at all, culpable in crimes...

...like these grifters clearly are. Sure, the Republicans didn't go after Amy Carter, but that's because a) her father was honest and b) she was 10 at the time.

[crazycatlady]

25. Limbaugh still went after Chelsea Clinton, then 12

[empedocles]

2. Seems like prudent strategy, at his point in time. Why risk it?

[global1]

19. Risk What?......nt

[empedocles]

23. Imo, Ivanka and Kushner are in so deep, they will be indicted.

Why risk a 'sympathy' move/argument for 'the trump child Ivanka'. Cost/benefit thing imo.

[duforsure]

3. Not targeting anyone involved in outright corrupt practices,

Bypassing National Security regulations by way of a Presidential order, and posing National security risks for all Americans, by ignoring these people involved merely because their relatives is complicit, and against their oath taking office. It'll backfire if they don't hold them especially accountable , and show they are not doing their sworn duty to do, protect this country and the American people. All of those involved needs to be gone after, and held accountable , period. They'e not above the rule of law simply because they are a relative.

[watoos]

4. It would be dereliction of duty,

if Democrats gave someone a pass because he/she is a Trump family member, politics be damned.

[RT Atlanta]

16. Agreed

Dereliction and whatever the equivalent of negligence is for elected officials (although I am not clear whether there is such a standard).

Wasnt there talk a few years back of the Manhattan AG having considered indicting those kids before the election, but ultimately taking a pass because of some campaign contributions from donnie t? Those kids' activities stink to high heaven and by them (kids) participating in any admin 'activities' they are more than fair game for being held responsible for their actions.

[EleanorR]

18. They're not giving them a pass

In fact the article states that they would simply prefer Federal Prosecutors take care of the kids so they can focus on trump right now.

[maxrandb]

5. Stop Worrying

Americans are sick and tired of these plastic Ken and Barbie soulless, vapid, ignorant grifters.

Trust me. The majority of Americans are going to be with you as you go after "Biff", "Squi", "Buffy" and "Britany".

Funny how Retrumplicans NEVER worry about even going so far as torturing Central American Toddlers, but Dems are supposed to worry about these "Netherworld Barbie" pieces of amphibian shit?

I guarantee you some police officer isn't going to shoot one of them as they "reach in their wasteband"

It's as obvious as the nose on my face that the entire fucking family is nothing but a bunch of fucking criminals.

Democrats need to be more worried about what happens if the DON'T go after them.

[JHB]

6. OK, 1) These are not 'squabbles', and 2) it's not 'dragging' when someone is part and parcel...

...to the focus of the investigation.

If we were talking about Tiffany, then it would be "dragging" her in, but the Bigly 3 are an integral part of Trump's dealings.

[dalton99a]

21. +1

[2naSalit]

31. +1

[malaise]

7. Just do the right fucking thing

Damn!

[ProfessorGAC]

8. Ridiculous!

They're adults. If they've broken the law, they need to pay the piper.
This is not a political consideration.

[Dread Pirate Roberts]

9. Targeting?

That's an interesting euphemism for appropriately investigating. The Trump Organization is a closely held family corporation. A small scale business operated mainly by family members. They also happen to be engaged in an awful lot of shady behavior, including election fraud and campaign finance violations. Family status can't and should not confer immunity from being scrutinized for that behavior and, if appropriate, prosecuted for that behavior. The narrative that they are being targeted is false and needs to be countered at every turn.

[Vinca]

10. Democrats should follow the trail of the crime. If it leads to Jr. it means he was a bad boy and

should be held accountable. Same with Princess and Gums. I guess Tiffany is the smartest of the bunch since she chooses to stay away.

[hatrack]

11. Oh, sure, second-hand Politico "journalism". Whatever.

Fuck his spawn - grifting, soulless, feckless, unqualified lazy little twits who would be in federal custody if they were anybody else.

But ignore that - remember the main point! DEMOCRATS IN DISARRAY!!!!

[dalton99a]

22. +1. It's a bullshit article

[watoos]

57. It's one of the main right wing narratives,

that is being pushed by all of the M$M; that Dems may be overreaching. That's the far right narrative, if the media were truly unbiased it would be talking about the mountain of evidence that is being uncovered which is exposing the Trump crime family.

The Romanov's didn't get off so easy.

[babylonsister]

27. How about rollcall?

I'm no fan of politico either, but they're not alone.

https://www.rollcall.com/news/congress/not-fast-house-oversight-democrats-pumping-brakes-interviews-trump-family-members

Some House Oversight Democrats pumping the brakes on interviews with Trump family members
Some members feel a public spectacle might not be the best place for following threads from Michael Cohen’s testimony

[TheBlackAdder]

12. Once those ADULT kids plugged themselves into the machinery, they are open to investigation.

[global1]

13. They Are Not KIDS - They Are ADULTS.....

You do the crime - you do the time.

The kids that the Dems should be worried about have been taken away from their parents and are in cages along our Southern Border.

This kind of thinking on the Dems part - brought us this entitled Trump of a president in the first place.

So are we going to let his entitled kids get away with crimes right in front of our eyes too? We normalize everything this idiot does. Are we going to normalize everything his kids do too?

Trump is the one that said his kids would run the Trump Organization. Trump is the one that gave away so-called security clearances to them in the WH. Trump brought them in.

Trump has fired or let go cabinet members, other WH staff and members of our governments' security forces - the FBI, CIA and NSA for far less than what he is letting his so-called kids get away with. If a person bad mouths Trump or is not loyal - they're banished.

There should be no special consideration given here. No one is above the law. His kids are ADULTS. Family or not - if they broke the law - they should be held accountable - just like yours or my kids would be if they broke the law.

[Autumn]

14. Why the worry about targeting criminals? Every criminal is someones child. Fuck em.

[Bettie]

15. They are adults who

have chosen to insert themselves into government.

They are also openly criminal.

[helpisontheway]

17. Please..lock their @sses up! The minute they entered politics they

are fair game.

[dalton99a]

20. I'd say Tiffany and Barron are innocent; the rest are filthy traitors and criminals

[samnsara]

53. dont take your eyes off them however...

[GeorgeGist]

24. Bullies need cowards

[crazycatlady]

26. If they take on an active role in the administration they're fair game

Or the campaign for that matter.

Jenna Bush did not take an active role in her father's administration or campaign. Neither did Malia Obama. They should be left alone.

The only innocent Trump kids are Tiffany and Barron.

[spanone]

28. Hey Democrats, quit worrying. His kids are criminals.

[Iliyah]

29. Isn't this a Politico article?

Politico was one of the internet sites that spew propaganda center around 2016 elections in favor - Republicans.

[babylonsister]

32. Not just politico...

https://www.thedailybeast.com/house-dems-discuss-whether-to-go-after-ivanka-trump

House Dems Discuss Whether to Go After Ivanka Trump

snip//

Ivanka Trump’s absence from the initial list raised eyebrows. But it may not be permanent.

A spokesperson for the committee said Monday that it would be sending out the next batch of document requests soon. The spokesperson did not indicate the exact date for when the request would be sent or what type of documents would be requested. And on Wednesday, Democratic members expressed reservations about targeting the president's children—particularly those outside the administration—as part of oversight probes.

“Getting to family members I think is dangerous,” said Rep. Gerry Connolly (D-Va.), a senior member of the House Oversight and Reform Committee, told POLITICO. “Only because it gets real personal, real fast. And it risks backfiring.”

[beachbum bob]

30. we can not view Eric, Ivanka, Kushner, Don Jr as trumps kids, if they did crimial acts, they must be

prosecuted.

Democrats MUST not hesitate

[bluestarone]

34. THIS is the ONLY way

They are fucking adults! LOCK their ass up!!

[beachbum bob]

59. gotta draw the line on rich white kids getting entitled treatment should we start now with trumps?

[NewJeffCT]

33. Barron Trump should be off limits

but, Ivanka, Don Jr and Eric Trump should all be fair game since they campaigned for their father and were key parts of the Trump organized crime syndicate. All of them are well over 30 years old as well.

[VOX]

64. Precisely. The *adults* and the nepotism are fair game.

Nobody forced 45’s adult offspring into criminal activity. They’re on the take, just like dad.

[mikeysnot]

35. Bull shit article

unnamed Democrats... beware...

Unless there is attribution to an actual quoted Democratic elected official we can ignore this BS.


We can expect more of this BS articles like this pushing bullshit talking points..

[babylonsister]

36. See the named Dem in #32. nt

[mikeysnot]

62. different article is it not?

So.....

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=16886

[babylonsister]

63. So what?

Same subject, posted from 3 different sources. You might not like Politico, and I have reservations about them myself, but they weren't the only ones running with this story.

Pick nits much?

[mikeysnot]

67. my response was to the original OP

your was not... so that means what now....

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=16893

[ehrnst]

46. Are you saying that the article is a lie? (nt)

[wiggs]

37. Shouldn't pursue them for political gain, shouldn't NOT pursue them for

political gain

Media and gop love to frame issues as political calculation...leaving dems once again to do the heavy lifting of governing and oversight.

[jrthin]

38. Oh f***king please. These are grown ass adults who are imo criminals. They

are not kids!

[The Blue Flower]

39. Ridiculous argument

How much more could the Rs work to stop the Ds from doing any oversight? Like they'll play nice if we leave the kiddies alone? If laws were/are being broken, there must be justice.

[jcmaine72]

40. If they're "adult children" then they're not really children, are they?

Don Jr. in particular loves to stir the crap pot. He drags himself in, not vice versa. He's fair game as far as I'm concerned. He's a nasty little pustule who deserves every ounce of criticism he gets, which, BTW, he only receives because he continually attacks other people.

No one in their right mind would advocate targeting an innocent ten or twelve year-old simply because you don't like their father. However, rightfully criticizing a 41-year-old whose favorite hobby is slandering other people online is perfectly fine.

[Wounded Bear]

41. FFS, these aren't "political squabbles" with the president...

this is investigating criminal activity by a crime family.

[EarlG]

42. This framing is problematic

Oh those poor kids! Look at them, how could those dastardly Democrats go after these adorable moppets.



Wait, what's that? They're not actually "kids" any more? They're 41, 37, and 35 years old? Experienced business people with families and children of their own?

And they have significant influence over the President of the United States and national policy-making? And they may be involved in serious crimes?

Adorable.

[dalton99a]

44. And this creep:

[edhopper]

43. Let's be clear here

Dems are not saying the kids should not be prosecuted. The are asking if they should let the Federal Prosecuters do it and not make them the target of hearings.
I am undecided on this, but NO ONE is saying to let them off the hook.

[scheming daemons]

45. Eric, Don Jr., and Ivanka are very unpopular

There is no downside in going after them.

[allgood33]

47. They are not "kids." They are grown, corrupt adults with a living father who is President.

The children being held in cages are "kids."

[Retrograde]

66. Hear, hear

They are adults and should be treated as such - even if they do seem infantile at times

[procon]

48. This article seems to making a mountain out of a molehill.

Yes, leading Dems will need to act prudently and remain focused on their obligations to ask questions and root out corruption and illegal behaviors in the executive branch, but they can do that without giving the Trump tribe a pass. That's the problem with nepotism, and Trump was advised not to bring his family into the Oval Office, so if he didn’t want his kids called before Congress to testify against him, then he shouldn’t have involved them in his administration.

The Oversight committee is already looking into Kushner's security clearance debacle, and that also ensnares Ivanka. Then the House Judiciary Committee is demanding documents from Kushner, Junior, and Eric Trump as part of their investigations into Trump's obstruction of justice, corruption and abuses of power.

[sacto95834]

49. Either there is evidence...

of wrong doing by the kids or there isn't. If there is, go after them. If you have to think about it, then you don't have enough evidence; back away. But if you have evidence, move forward, it's the right thing to do. Is it really that hard? Speak truth to power always.

[ffr]

50. I worry I might choke when I gulp water. Doesn't mean I should stop doing it.

Criminals need to be convicted, same as if I am someone else's child. Should I be immune too?

[Ilsa]

51. How about the ADULT trumps?

Even donald was someone's kid. Everyone is, and ivanker, jr, and Eric are adults committing adult crimes.

[samnsara]

52. no one with the last name of Trump is off limits.. that entire family needs to be eradicated..

....socially and financially. They need to be stripped of their gold plated facade and made to stand naked in front of the American people so they NEVER can trick us again.

jmho

[IronLionZion]

54. Barron and maybe Tiffany can be left out

but the rest of them are definitely complicit in their Dad's crimes

[fishwax]

55. sounds like a solid strategy to me

“Democrats, in fact, would prefer to let federal prosecutors handle the family while they take on the president themselves."

[MineralMan]

56. Which Democrats Are Worried?

Nothing about that in the politicalwire.com story, which just quotes Politico, not the most liberal online publication around. I would go to the Politico article, but I don't visit that website.

So, which Democrats are saying they're worried, I wonder. Anyone know?

[Thomas Hurt]

58. Screw that...

They are not even gov't employees. They are not experienced or qualified.

Hell, who says they are even doing gov't business...

[obamanut2012]

60. They aren't kids, an dthey are criminals

This isn't going after the Bush Twins and Malia Obama for partying in college (both of which were stupid and gross -- leave the kids under 25 or so alone).

[SoCalDem]

61. Tiffany & Barron are the only ones who should be off limits

The others are complicit..and adults & involved in the campaign/WH

Game ON!

[VOX]

65. So Junior is free to blast away at Democrats, but Democrats must tiptoe around this ADULT CRIMINAL?

Pardon me, but fuck that shit.

[Greybnk48]

68. They're NOT kids! Jr. is entering middle age

and the others are all in their 30's. All adult criminals.