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pnwmom

(108,987 posts)
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 09:10 PM Mar 2019

Thanks to MSNBC: "For context on Manafort's 47 months . . . "


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Scott Hechinger

@ScottHech

For context on Manafort’s 47 months in prison, my client yesterday was offered 36-72 months in prison for stealing $100 worth of quarters from a residential laundry room.
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Thanks to MSNBC: "For context on Manafort's 47 months . . . " (Original Post) pnwmom Mar 2019 OP
Saw that. Unfuckingbelieveable. stopbush Mar 2019 #1
Manaforts judge maybe a trumppanze, if manafort were black, brown or yellow...well then, throw Augiedog Mar 2019 #2
Or his net worth was less than a million or he did not have a wealthy relative pulling strings. cstanleytech Mar 2019 #18
K&R, Judge Ellis sentenced Rep Bill Jefferson***A BLACK MAN*** to 13 yrs for white collar crimes. uponit7771 Mar 2019 #3
See my post on BREAKING: Ex-Trump campaign chief Paul Manafort sentenced to 47 months for fraud in Moral Compass Mar 2019 #4
There you go. Two Americas. Disgusting. nt Honeycombe8 Mar 2019 #5
K&R... spanone Mar 2019 #6
Oh to be white and rich in America... nt. BlueIdaho Mar 2019 #7
The tree of liberty thirsts. Mightily. slumcamper Mar 2019 #8
47 months is just... COL Mustard Mar 2019 #9
Judge Ellis DallasNE Mar 2019 #10
Ellis is a disgrace. He should retire. SunSeeker Mar 2019 #15
What show was that on? triron Mar 2019 #11
Chris Hayes. nt SunSeeker Mar 2019 #13
Meanwhile, Manafort ADMITTED he stole $15 MILLION via his tax fraud. nt SunSeeker Mar 2019 #12
Yeah but Manafort was on the Trump team. This other dude is probably triron Mar 2019 #14
Manafort is age 69 NJCher Mar 2019 #16
So? triron Mar 2019 #17
I'm curious if that's why Ellis went easy. forgotmylogin Mar 2019 #19
two-tier system of justice NJCher Mar 2019 #20
I just wonder Fritz Walter Mar 2019 #21
Probably end up in club fed like that shkreli guy bedazzled Mar 2019 #22
Ah yes, the sliding scale of justice... Blue Owl Mar 2019 #23
Rapists get less time. Nitram Mar 2019 #24
Wow. PatrickforO Mar 2019 #25
How was this judge assigned to the case? C Moon Mar 2019 #26

Augiedog

(2,548 posts)
2. Manaforts judge maybe a trumppanze, if manafort were black, brown or yellow...well then, throw
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 10:05 PM
Mar 2019

the bastard under the jail.

Moral Compass

(1,523 posts)
4. See my post on BREAKING: Ex-Trump campaign chief Paul Manafort sentenced to 47 months for fraud in
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 10:07 PM
Mar 2019

Our system of justice is a travesty...

This judge should be hounded from the bench....

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
10. Judge Ellis
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 11:00 PM
Mar 2019

Was also the Judge in the William Jefferson case. Congressman Jefferson famously was found to have stored cash in his freezer. His charge was the same as one of the charges against Manafort. Jefferson got 13 years (and was released after 5 years). Judge Ellis was appointed by Ronald Reagan.

SunSeeker

(51,587 posts)
15. Ellis is a disgrace. He should retire.
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 11:18 PM
Mar 2019

I'm sure Jefferson didn't have $15 Million in his freezer, while Manafort ADMITTED in Ellis' case that he stole $15 Million from US taxpayers via he tax fraud. Yet Ellis gave Jefferson 3 times the sentence he gave Manafort. Racist much?

triron

(22,008 posts)
14. Yeah but Manafort was on the Trump team. This other dude is probably
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 11:16 PM
Mar 2019

not even a Trump supporter. Judge Ellis is clearly a Trumper.

NJCher

(35,698 posts)
16. Manafort is age 69
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 11:23 PM
Mar 2019

And 47 months is just short of 4 years. That puts him at 73 if he served his full sentence, which he won't because of good time. I don't know what good time is in the federal system, but I think it's generally about 60%, sometimes 50%. So figure that he'll be out around age 72-73. Still a pretty good age and plenty of years left to enjoy.

However, I understand there are other sentences awaiting him. Will they be concurrent or consecutive? I think that's up to the next judge.

forgotmylogin

(7,530 posts)
19. I'm curious if that's why Ellis went easy.
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 10:20 AM
Mar 2019

Since he knew there were other rounds of sentencing coming up, this was his only opportunity to "cushion" Manafort.

Not that it's right, but if Manafort receives another 4-10 years on top of that, that is a long time for a criminally-well-deserving 70-year-old man for a non-violent crime.

I was glad to hear there were multi-million dollar fines imposed as well, and that's where it will hit hard since he will probably (if we're lucky) never "work" again.

NJCher

(35,698 posts)
20. two-tier system of justice
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 12:19 PM
Mar 2019

I was thinking along the same line: cushion. However, I think we can see this morning (with the outrage this sentence has caused) his cushion could backfire.

Now the judicial system and sentencing in particular is in the eye of the public. The two-tier system of justice, with white collar crimes and street level crimes being treated differently result in racial discrimination.

His multi-million dollar fines do count for a lot, but the damage he and his ilk caused to democracy is almost incalculable. They push the envelope using free speech as their cover when they know full well what they are doing--manipulating the not so bright and the dysfunctional members of our society (of which there are many).


Fritz Walter

(4,291 posts)
21. I just wonder
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 01:21 PM
Mar 2019

How his fellow inmates will react when they find out about his ultra-light sentence. Especially those who are doing much longer terms for crimes that are much less heinous.

Not wishing harm on anyone, but the term “justice” takes on a whole new dimension behind bars. When the guards aren’t looking.

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