Judge Amy Berman Jackson

[ffr]

Next week Manafort will be sentenced in another case in Washington, where the judge will need to decide whether he can serve both sentences at the same time or if he will have to serve them consecutively.

"You're dealing with a different judge, and by the way, very different charges," Klieman said. "In D.C. you're dealing with conspiracy against the United States and conspiracy to obstruct justice. Five years each, a maximum of 10. The guidelines bring you to 10. The real question for D.C. Judge [Amy Berman] Jackson is does she give him the full 10 consecutive or concurrent. And this is a judge that has had a lot of experience with Paul Manafort in D.C., you're dealing with the fact that she vitiated his plea of guilty and bail." - CBS News

Make an example of him. Give him the maximum for conspiring against the United States and make it consecutive sentencing.

[leftynyc]

1. Hopefully the max

to be served consecutively. Yesterday was a miscarriage of justice that she can, at least, begin to remedy.

[Hoyt]

2. Next week are the crimes that really matter. Yesterday's sentence had nothing to do with trump's

crimes. It was for tax charges and bank fraud before the 2016 election. Plus, the judge did sentence him to restitution of $25 Million, so he's likely broke, shamed, unemployable, old/unhealthy, unwanted, and a loser. Screw him.

[TexasTowelie]

10. And most likely he owes millions more to shady characters in foreign countries.

The time clock for paying those debts doesn't expire.

[Hoyt]

11. Good point. Think I read he owes one Russian $10 Mill. So yeah, he'll be looking over his shoulder.

[BigmanPigman]

3. Not all the charges against him have finished.

There is a real possibility that Mueller may bring more charges and there are likely state charges too (can't pardon those unless by the gov of the state). The only problem with the state is a statute of limitations. This gives me hope that he will spend life in jail.

[dawg day]

4. Yes, if he evaded fed taxes....

He probably evaded NY state taxes.

[shanny]

5. Very true.

Almost half of the charges brought in VA federal court ended with a hung jury (a single holdout). Those charges can be tried again...although I think it would be with the same judge.


OTOH, state charges are also possible, in multiple states including NY, VA, CA and IL:

Let’s first focus on just the crimes for which Manafort has already been tried. This week, he was convicted of five counts of tax fraud, two counts of bank fraud, and one count of failing to report a foreign bank account. In New York and Virginia, where he held residences, double jeopardy laws prevent him from being charged for the exact same crimes. But state tax fraud is a distinct crime, one that he almost certainly also committed. When one fraudulently hides income from the federal government, one has to hide that same income fraudulently in state tax returns in order to avoid incriminating inconsistencies.



Lots more at the link

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/08/paul-manafort-will-likely-go-to-jail-if-trump-pardons-him-thanks-to-a-lone-holdout-juror.html

[BigmanPigman]

6. I just heard on MSNBC that Rhode Island and Illinois may

charge him after yesterday's light sentence. Also, the guests said that "this will never end for Manafort". I just posted it. I didn't know that CA was another state that can charge him too. I think the pundits are correct...this is just the beginning for Poor Paulie.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211901392

[shanny]

7. WooHOO!

[Dem2theMax]

13. Thank you for posting that!

Every time I come on here, it's just one bad piece of news after another. This on the other hand, this made me smile.

[BigmanPigman]

16. I know it!

I can use every bit of good news that I can get these days. I just hope the prosecutors are as pissed off as the rest of us over the ridiculous sentence yesterday and do something to remedy the situation. It seems from everything I have read and heard since last night that Paulie will go down sooner or later.

[lagomorph777]

8. Also Mueller got Manafort to plead guilty to the hung charges.

So he's fucked 9 ways to Sunday.

[WheelWalker]

9. Yes... Jurist Ellis's sentence is just the first bullet to Paulie's first kneecap.

[Honeycombe8]

12. A guideline is a range, isn't it? 10 is the max. The upper end of the guideline.

If she gives him 5, that added to the 47 mos, less 9 mos. served, less time off for good behavior...?

[Wednesdays]

14. What good behavior?

[Honeycombe8]

15. That's a federal thing. You get time off for good behavior. nt

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

19. "Good behavior." Is that like perfect attendence? nt

[Honeycombe8]

21. Yeah. Only in reverse.

If you DON'T show up for the knife party in the shower.

[CloudWatcher]

17. Guidelines. Minimum isn't really the minimum ... so is maximum time really the max?

Could Judge Jackson legally toss out the guidelines and sentence him to (for example) twice the guideline maximum?

[gldstwmn]

18. The judge in the next sentencing is the one

Who mentioned treason and delayed Manafort's sentencing yes?

[DeminPennswoods]

20. You're probably thinking of Flynn and his case

who, iirc, is Emmett Sullivan.

[bullwinkle428]

22. I just hope he does 10 total. Whether it's 10 concurrent or 5 consecutive, as long

as the math works out, and he's 80 when he's released, if he still has a pulse at that point.

[Stuart G]

23. Where we thought the show was in Act 4, the show is really in Act 2, more acts to follow..

Manafort is going down. This one charge, "....conspiracy against the United States." is enough to totally destroy his positive feelings about the previous findings.
...The media almost kept these other charges in a closet. As if they don't count. That one above will show him who is the boss. And it isn't Trump

[Stuart G]

24. The article at this link says this other judge is not so lenient,(tougher judge) Bloomberg. com:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-03-08/manafort-caught-sentence-break-but-faces-tougher-judge-next-week

"Paul Manafort won leniency Thursday from a federal judge who sent him to prison for less than four years, but next week he’ll be sentenced in a second case by a less forgiving judge who could add another 10 years to his term."

Manafort, 69, faced as long as 24 years in prison after jurors in Alexandria, Virginia, convicted him last year of hiding $55 million in offshore accounts, failing to pay $6 million in taxes, and defrauding banks. But U.S. District Judge T.S. Ellis III said Thursday that a quarter-century behind bars was too extreme and sentenced Manafort to 47 months.

Next, Manafort will be sentenced on March 13 by U.S. District Judge Amy Berman Jackson in Washington, where he pleaded guilty to two conspiracy charges and pledged to cooperate with Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election

It was Jackson who sent Manafort, President Donald Trump’s former campaign chairman, to jail on June 15 after prosecutors accused him of tampering with witnesses. She also ruled last month that he breached his plea deal by lying to prosecutors. Jackson could add to the sentence that Ellis imposed. She could also make some or all of it run at the same time.