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If Texas turns Blue.... (Original Post) MicaelS Mar 2019 OP
I say, split the state up and move them all to Alaska. It is remarkable how Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2019 #1
It's purple and has been for a while. TwilightZone Mar 2019 #2
+1. City dwellers and educated transplants will soon outnumber the hicks in the sticks dalton99a Mar 2019 #7
Geez, I was reading something about how we are getting transplants in in record Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2019 #12
Agree. I actually think Beto would have won if the GOP PTB on smut hadn't flooded Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2019 #8
In about another 10 years, when it does I shall give ya'll a big kiss. StTimofEdenRoc Mar 2019 #3
Have you noticed Trump Approval by state? 48% Ohio - 41% Texas Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2019 #5
Oh, and if you look at the final Beto/Cruz map - the border was blue. They don't Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2019 #4
When I lived in San Antonio, Work friends, claimed family on both sides of the river. StTimofEdenRoc Mar 2019 #6
Exactly ! So, a coalition of all the big cities plus border might swing it. Follow up Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2019 #11
If the Democrats get blackmailed into some wall funding ..... StTimofEdenRoc Mar 2019 #22
You mean WHEN Texas turns blue Gothmog Mar 2019 #9
Great point, did not think of that. Oh well. n/t MicaelS Mar 2019 #14
The Demographic trends show that Texas will be blue Gothmog Mar 2019 #16
Awesome. Thanks. n/t MicaelS Mar 2019 #19
Fun and exciting! Congrats to her for this opening up. Hortensis Mar 2019 #27
In all fairness, Texas did vote for Ted Cruz , twice. dem4decades Mar 2019 #10
And he knows he's despicable. Why he never visits anywhere here and laid so low Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2019 #13
An observation about the 2018 primary and general election. TexasTowelie Mar 2019 #35
I would love to see Beto O'Rourke VS John Cornyn StTimofEdenRoc Mar 2019 #15
It would likely be harder than 2018 bearsfootball516 Mar 2019 #28
I agree, but I still would love to see it StTimofEdenRoc Mar 2019 #29
But ... in 2020 I want to see my candidate secure WI, PA and MI before chasing TX an NC. StTimofEdenRoc Mar 2019 #17
Forget the Alamo lame54 Mar 2019 #18
My apologies. I was humor impared. MicaelS Mar 2019 #20
???? lame54 Mar 2019 #21
One what? Iggo Mar 2019 #25
TX hater jpak Mar 2019 #33
It was still a funny answer. Iggo Mar 2019 #34
No, not really. TexasTowelie Mar 2019 #36
Everyone of us should question the wisdom of not contesting the race in Texas. Iggo Mar 2019 #37
I get the joke, TexasTowelie Mar 2019 #41
Wow that sucks. And Dipshit approval here so low. Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2019 #45
Give you guys a hi-five and say "welcome to the club ,we've been waiting for you". Afromania Mar 2019 #23
If there's less to hate about Texas, people will hate Texas less. Iggo Mar 2019 #24
When? SHRED Mar 2019 #26
My guess TX and AZ 8 to 12 years StTimofEdenRoc Mar 2019 #30
I'll gladly recant! Adrahil Mar 2019 #31
Let's not forget what LBJ Wellstone ruled Mar 2019 #32
Yes, the times are changing. TexasTowelie Mar 2019 #38
Yes they are and you are right,it is all about Wellstone ruled Mar 2019 #40
Florida voted for Obama both times. But Florida man is still a thing here. GulfCoast66 Mar 2019 #39
I do not know. jmowreader Mar 2019 #42
Do not underestimate their creativity. DFW Mar 2019 #43
Don't worry...they'll be fine. Captain Stern Mar 2019 #44
 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
1. I say, split the state up and move them all to Alaska. It is remarkable how
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 02:24 PM
Mar 2019

different people are in Austin, Dallas, San Antonio and Houston/Galveston and I suppose El Paso compared to the rest.

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
2. It's purple and has been for a while.
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 02:24 PM
Mar 2019

The major cities and the Valley have gone blue the past several elections, and the suburbs are shifting significantly.

Dem turnout (and, particularly, Latino turnout) here is below the national average or it would be even closer. We're working on it.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
12. Geez, I was reading something about how we are getting transplants in in record
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 02:37 PM
Mar 2019

numbers - but not the good kind. We're getting people who want less government and less taxes and easier gun shooting environment.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
8. Agree. I actually think Beto would have won if the GOP PTB on smut hadn't flooded
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 02:32 PM
Mar 2019

Facebook - or what KLBJ liberals in afternoon call Mombook - with falsehoods about Beto.

I saw it spread. It's the only "news" low infos here get. And then he plateaued.

But, hell, how to you combat that? I can't answer them because they are my husband's wingnut clients.

I think Biden would have the best shot. Maybe with Beto. Or, maybe Castro as VP could whip up Hispanic vote?

If we got Texas, we could lose one or all of the big three Trussia probably stole - WI, MI and PA

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
4. Oh, and if you look at the final Beto/Cruz map - the border was blue. They don't
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 02:25 PM
Mar 2019

want no stinking wall.

If Dipshit starts taking land - all bets are off.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
11. Exactly ! So, a coalition of all the big cities plus border might swing it. Follow up
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 02:35 PM
Mar 2019

with stories about border landowners trump is stealing land from. And flood facebook with dem ads - targeted to wingnuts.

 

StTimofEdenRoc

(445 posts)
22. If the Democrats get blackmailed into some wall funding .....
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 03:05 PM
Mar 2019

They should require it be spent in TX, just to stir up shite.

Gothmog

(145,176 posts)
16. The Demographic trends show that Texas will be blue
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 02:49 PM
Mar 2019

trump may just accelerate the process

There are a ton of real Democrats in Texas working hard to turn Texas blue. I was on the phone with a friend who lost her run for Texas Supreme Court to a judge who was just put on the federal bench. She will be running in 2020 for that seat. This will be fun

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
27. Fun and exciting! Congrats to her for this opening up.
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 03:35 PM
Mar 2019

I imagine whatever she went through with the prior run all just became more than worthwhile.





dem4decades

(11,288 posts)
10. In all fairness, Texas did vote for Ted Cruz , twice.
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 02:34 PM
Mar 2019

And he is despicable.

If Texas turns blue I'll come down the and give you all a big kiss.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
13. And he knows he's despicable. Why he never visits anywhere here and laid so low
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 02:38 PM
Mar 2019

during Beto campaign. People so stupid they just saw R

TexasTowelie

(112,153 posts)
35. An observation about the 2018 primary and general election.
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 11:30 PM
Mar 2019

There were also the low-information voters that were influenced by the candidate's surname.

If you examine the county maps from the 2018 primary you will see that Sema Hernandez was strongest in the RGV and other areas with a large concentration of Hispanic voters even though she was virtually unknown outside of the El Paso area and a few enclaves in Houston where she had worked. I suspect that most of those voters were not aware that she is a DSA member. It looks like the only county that has a four-year university where Hernandez had a plurality was Webb County (Texas A&M International - Laredo). Most of the counties where Hernandez did well don't even have a junior college.

It seems that low-information voters are guided by two factors--the political party of the candidate and the ethnicity of the candidate within the party they favor. It's not my intention to be divisive, but to be observant instead.

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
28. It would likely be harder than 2018
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 03:40 PM
Mar 2019

Cruz is universally dislothed, even by Texans. They only vote for him because he’s got an R. Cornyn is a lot more popular than Cruz and he’ll get a lot of straight party votes that stayed home in 2018 because they hated Cruz and Trump wasn’t on the ballot.

 

StTimofEdenRoc

(445 posts)
17. But ... in 2020 I want to see my candidate secure WI, PA and MI before chasing TX an NC.
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 02:52 PM
Mar 2019

maybe a few visits to AZ where the senate race will be a hot one.

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
20. My apologies. I was humor impared.
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 02:55 PM
Mar 2019

Last edited Sat Mar 9, 2019, 11:53 PM - Edit history (1)

IOW, I did not get the fucking joke.

TexasTowelie

(112,153 posts)
36. No, not really.
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 11:43 PM
Mar 2019

Even one of the most liberal sites I read on occasion has questioned the wisdom of not contesting the race in Texas.

Democratic Establishment Clowns Already Giving Up On Ohio, Iowa And Texas?

The top Democratic Party establishment SuperPAC, Priorities USA, has decided that Ohio, Iowa and Texas will not be target states for 2020. What a dumb-ass move! Their new report lists 15 states and puts them in prioritization categories. The top priorities will be Florida, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan, New Hampshire and Nevada. Next down are Arizona, North Carolina and Georgia. That's followed by Minnesota, Virginia and Colorado as Democratic "watch states" and Iowa, Ohio and Texas as Republican "watch states."

They plan to invest $100 in an early engagement program in Wisconsin, Florida, Pennsylvania and Michigan, which they will expand to include New Hampshire, North Carolina, Georgia, Nevada and Arizona. They have no plans for Texas (38 electoral votes and half a dozen vulnerable House seats and a possible vulnerable Senate seat), Ohio (18 electoral votes) or Iowa (6 electoral votes).


http://downwithtyranny.blogspot.com/2019/03/democratic-establishment-clowns-already.html

Considering that Democratic candidates come to Texas to exploit the strong fund-raising base in this state, we get very little in return from the party in return. That has to stop if we ever expect to elect enough Democrats to have super-majorities necessary to overturn vetoes and filibusters.

Iggo

(47,552 posts)
37. Everyone of us should question the wisdom of not contesting the race in Texas.
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 11:46 PM
Mar 2019

Right?

And yeah it was.

"What'll the Texas haters do now?"

"Forget the Alamo."

Ba-dump, psh!

TexasTowelie

(112,153 posts)
41. I get the joke,
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 11:51 PM
Mar 2019

but I'm not ready to surrender. I don't believe that we should give up on any state.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
32. Let's not forget what LBJ
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 04:21 PM
Mar 2019

said in 1964 with the passing of the Voting Rights Law. The Democratic Party will lose the South and Texas for fifty years. Well,we are in year 54 and times are changing.

TexasTowelie

(112,153 posts)
38. Yes, the times are changing.
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 11:46 PM
Mar 2019

It would be nice if the national party saw that this state is winnable for Democrats if they make the financial investment.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
40. Yes they are and you are right,it is all about
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 11:50 PM
Mar 2019

putting our money where our mouth is. O'Rouke woke up a sleeping giant and now it is ready to roar.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
39. Florida voted for Obama both times. But Florida man is still a thing here.
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 11:49 PM
Mar 2019

Comes with being the 3rd most populous state and getting the craziest people from up north.

I’ve learned to generally laugh at it.

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
42. I do not know.
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 12:02 AM
Mar 2019

What I DO know: If Texas goes blue there will never be a Republican president again.

In the 2016 election, the electoral vote count was Trump 306-232 Clinton. Flipping Texas blue - while keeping everything else the way it was - gives us Clinton 270-268 Trump.

DFW

(54,370 posts)
43. Do not underestimate their creativity.
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 01:24 AM
Mar 2019

We still "talk funny," after all. There's always that.........

Captain Stern

(2,201 posts)
44. Don't worry...they'll be fine.
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 06:58 AM
Mar 2019

There will still be plenty of other states they can hate (and the people in them), and feel good about it.

The Carolina's, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, and let's not forget Florida. And, they'll have Kansas, Missouri, Nebraska, Arkansas, and both Dakota's to fall back on when we start winning over the southern states.

"Argle Bargle!...Let' em SECEDE, I say....Welfare States!....Murmur, Murmur!

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