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H2O Man

(73,527 posts)
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 01:20 PM Mar 2019

Changing Times

“Come senators, congressmen
Please heed the call
Don't stand in the doorway
Don't block up the hall ….”
Bob Dylan; The Times They Are A-Changin'



There is an interesting model that identifies three ranges of what can be called the “group consciousness” of humanity throughout our rather brief existence of a million-plus years on Earth. A person can, of course, find examples that do not fit neatly within the model. Yet it is worthy of our consideration, perhaps especially in the context of the extreme divisions within groups we are witnessing today.

In the early phase, generally when humans engaged in “hunting and gathering” to survive, individuals were, of course, conscious. But the groups existed, no matter what continent they inhabited, in what is referred to as “mythological consciousness.” More, as has been documented by experts such as Joseph Campbell, many of the mythologies share common themes and expressions.

This changed – slowly in real time – with the advent of horticulture and especially agriculture. Humanity then entered a phase known as “theological consciousness.” It is, I think, important to view this as a new layer of consciousness, not unlike that which our ancestors' experienced long ago as the brain grew and added new capacities. The myths of the past became more formalized when script was introduced, which is an extremely important factor.

Clearly, not all of the Earth's peoples entered the new level of consciousness at the same time. There tended to be the growth of this new layer near the equator, in different parts of the world. This, of course, had the potential to create tensions and conflicts with differing groups.

The third phase comes into play around the time of the industrial revolution. It created within the groups experiencing this what is known as “ideological consciousness.” It is also connected to the changes in communications created by the printing press. The ideologies of these groups – which are a new layer – were rooted in the myths and theologies of the past. But without question, these ideologies created great tensions and conflicts within the human populations.

Today, with advances in technology such as the internet, there is a new level of consciousness coming into being. It has the positive potential of allowing individuals to appreciate that we are all human beings, taking part in the eternity of “time,” here on Earth. Within this context, we have the ability to recognize and rationally confront the problems associated with human life. These include everything from climate change to poverty.

There is also a very negative potential …..Trump's election is profound evidence of this. One might consider it the result of the collective negative forces of some of the myths, theologies, and ideologies of the past, gurgling up from the collective unconscious human energies.

I'd like to see a specific group of human beings, known collectively as the Democratic Party that exists within the United States, avoid the pitfalls that are associated with that negative potential. This doesn't mean that we all will agree with every other Democrat on every single issue. But it does require that we have the maturity to discuss (and even debate) isues rationally, without dismissing or demonizing those who may honestly and sincerely disagree with us …..even on those issues that have the potential to strike an emotional nerve that is connected to the myths, theologies, and/or ideologies that are important to us.

Let me give but one example. There are a variety of Democrats in the House and Senate who have been elected to represent us. And in 2020, there will be elections ranging from local to state to the national level. Even for president. I would suggest that in the primary season, we focus on rational discussions and debates, without attacking those who think differently than we as individuals do. And once a primary is concluded, we join together and work hard to elect all the Democratic Party's candidates. I can't identify a better option than this.

Peace,
H2O Man

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Changing Times (Original Post) H2O Man Mar 2019 OP
Kick Hekate Mar 2019 #1
Thank you! H2O Man Mar 2019 #5
Great post brother malaise Mar 2019 #2
Thanks! H2O Man Mar 2019 #6
K&R nt flying rabbit Mar 2019 #3
Thank you! H2O Man Mar 2019 #7
As long as we quit getting mired in the past, when supposedly "people should have known better" Hestia Mar 2019 #4
Interesting! H2O Man Mar 2019 #8
K&R... spanone Mar 2019 #9
Thank you! H2O Man Mar 2019 #10
Darling H20 coeur_de_lion Mar 2019 #11
Wait! H2O Man Mar 2019 #12

H2O Man

(73,527 posts)
6. Thanks!
Tue Mar 12, 2019, 11:56 AM
Mar 2019

I am under the impression that Friday will be interesting. Let's hope so!

Of course, I keep in mind that family members often tell me that what I find interesting, even fascinating, is boring-to-tedious for everyone else. I kept that in mind when I posted the above OP .....the day before, I had this general discussion with three others, and found them all politely attempting to change the discussion. Ha!

 

Hestia

(3,818 posts)
4. As long as we quit getting mired in the past, when supposedly "people should have known better"
Tue Mar 12, 2019, 12:16 AM
Mar 2019

mentality seems to be ruling the roost. It's boring, mostly wrong (how can one get into the mind of 150 years ago about anyone? Hell, 40 years ago?) and brings nothing to the table and solves absolutely nothing. It seems to be collective navel gazing, which is well and good, but this is not the time or place to indulge in this type of thinking.

It's also boring and irritating to have people scold and lecture about a time that they were not born in. They have no clue of whence they speak and again, this is not the time or place to have these type of conversations. That's what campus' and coffee houses are for.

All for supporting the best and brightest of the Democratic nominee's, especially those who have intestinal fortitude. They need all the help they can get for speaking truth.

Peace out

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