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yaesu

(8,020 posts)
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 01:14 PM Mar 2019

Should we be prepared for a Mueller report letdown?

Last night & again today I'm hearing reports from MSM & a few progressive radio hosts that the few leaks that are coming out of the JD is pointing toward a big letdown as far as tRump indictments or any mention of tRump committing crimes. Rod Rosenstein has stated in the past that there will be no one in the report that hasn't been charged with crimes. Its not law, its just his policy. Also, plan on tRump weaponizing the report, using it to say See, I'm innocent, it was a witch hunt.

Even though I know in my heart that the tRump crime family has committed numerous crimes I also have had a sinking feeling that they will get way with it. I hope mine & others suspicions are wrong but if not I hope the House goes hot & heavy for impeachment (he gained office by breaking rules & laws) & the NY JD goes after the tRump crime family. I never get my hopes up when it comes to Justice in this country, especially crimes committed by the rich & powerful.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/letter-deputy-attorney-general-rod-rosenstein-offers-potential/story?id=61847216

The WP had better info but you need to have a subscription to read.

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Should we be prepared for a Mueller report letdown? (Original Post) yaesu Mar 2019 OP
It may be their latest spin. n/t rzemanfl Mar 2019 #1
Yes n/t emulatorloo Mar 2019 #10
Remember Chicken Little? C_U_L8R Mar 2019 #2
What? Turbineguy Mar 2019 #3
Remember these nykym Mar 2019 #4
I hope for the best and am prepared for the worst. ret5hd Mar 2019 #5
This. n/t Different Drummer Mar 2019 #11
Fitzmas 2.0? COLGATE4 Mar 2019 #6
could be. I forgot all about Fitzmas ;o) nt yaesu Mar 2019 #7
No it is not the same at all. See my post below emulatorloo Mar 2019 #9
Mueller's indicted lots of people and flipped many witnesses. This ain't "Fitzmas" at all emulatorloo Mar 2019 #8
It reality, the Mueller investigation is much more massive, has already sent people to prison yaesu Mar 2019 #13
And we're gonna see a lot more emulatorloo Mar 2019 #14
You're right, but if the big fish escapes ... MH1 Mar 2019 #19
Nixon "escaped" but he was ruined/destroyed emulatorloo Mar 2019 #24
With Mueller's report today I rest my case. COLGATE4 Mar 2019 #22
Sorry you don't know what's in the report emulatorloo Mar 2019 #23
Still disagree? COLGATE4 Mar 2019 #31
I'm going to lose it if tRump isn't indicted. Joe941 Mar 2019 #12
Then be prepared to lost it leftynyc Mar 2019 #15
That likely ain't happening theboss Mar 2019 #17
+1000 to your last two lines. nt. MH1 Mar 2019 #20
He won't be - not because he's innocent but because in 1973 and again in 2000 The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2019 #27
I don't know what anyone's expectations are to begin with theboss Mar 2019 #16
I try not to get my hopes up but I was expecting at least an indictment of a family member yaesu Mar 2019 #18
Remember that the bar has been set VERY high Poiuyt Mar 2019 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author Still In Wisconsin Mar 2019 #25
On a side note, does anyone know if Mike Flynn was ever sentenced? CentralMass Mar 2019 #26
Not yet, his sentencing was postponed. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2019 #28
Thank you. That is kind of puzzling. CentralMass Mar 2019 #30
I'm preparing for it. demosincebirth Mar 2019 #29

C_U_L8R

(45,000 posts)
2. Remember Chicken Little?
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 01:20 PM
Mar 2019

That's Trumps PR strategy lately... breathless shadow campaigns claiming the Report is about to drop... again and again until we all become numb and tired of it.

nykym

(3,063 posts)
4. Remember these
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 01:20 PM
Mar 2019

so called reports are comming from the tRump DOJ, his lawyers and the MSM (need ratings).
NOT MULLER!

emulatorloo

(44,118 posts)
8. Mueller's indicted lots of people and flipped many witnesses. This ain't "Fitzmas" at all
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 01:36 PM
Mar 2019

There is absolutely no comparison what so ever.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
13. It reality, the Mueller investigation is much more massive, has already sent people to prison
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 01:43 PM
Mar 2019

flipped many of those involved in crimes & covers crimes that would never have been seen as possible back in the day. From run of the mill fraud to working as an agent of a foreign country to subvert an election & profit from it.

emulatorloo

(44,118 posts)
14. And we're gonna see a lot more
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 01:50 PM
Mar 2019

Some knowledgeable talking head who knows how Mueller’s built cases says

- he puts a ton of information in his court fileings (yes he has)
- he’s probably waiting to seek indictment of the family members until late in the game. For one reason that he knows Trump will go fucking nuts and really shut the whole thing down. But the evidence will already all be out there in the courts and in public.

MH1

(17,600 posts)
19. You're right, but if the big fish escapes ...
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 02:11 PM
Mar 2019

I see the comparison in the level of letdown felt by the remaining sane people in this country.

emulatorloo

(44,118 posts)
24. Nixon "escaped" but he was ruined/destroyed
Sat Mar 23, 2019, 12:19 AM
Mar 2019

We’ll see what happens. We don’t yet know what will happen.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
15. Then be prepared to lost it
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 01:52 PM
Mar 2019

He's not going to be indicted while in office. Perhaps there are sealed indictments for the second he leaves and who knows what the SDNY is going to come up with but I doubt very much donnie will be indicted. Junior and Jarad, on the other hand.......

 

theboss

(10,491 posts)
17. That likely ain't happening
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 02:02 PM
Mar 2019

I think there's a 20 percent chance that the final act of this drama is a Don Jr indictment. But I'm not counting on that.

It honestly feels like American politics for the last 20 years has one side waiting for some miracle that reverses what just happened. It's not a healthy way to live as a person or as a country.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,681 posts)
27. He won't be - not because he's innocent but because in 1973 and again in 2000
Sat Mar 23, 2019, 12:50 AM
Mar 2019

the Office of Legal Counsel issued memos presenting their legal opinion that a sitting president can't or shouldn't be indicted. The DoJ has accepted that opinion although it's not an actual law and it never has been tested in court.

 

theboss

(10,491 posts)
16. I don't know what anyone's expectations are to begin with
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 01:59 PM
Mar 2019

If you are expecting something that will galvanize the country into immediate impeachment, you are almost certainly going to be disappointed.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
18. I try not to get my hopes up but I was expecting at least an indictment of a family member
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 02:04 PM
Mar 2019

but I may be disappointed.

Poiuyt

(18,122 posts)
21. Remember that the bar has been set VERY high
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 04:15 PM
Mar 2019

People who are rich and famous usually get off, even if the are guilty. They can afford high priced lawyers who know all the tricks. In Trump's case, it's even higher. He has such a rabid following that prosecutors will be afraid to indict or punish him in any way. (e.g. Nancy Pelosi). Before any impeachment or indictments, the prosecutors will need layer upon layer of evidence of serious wrongdoing. They know that the cult members will be out with torches and pitchforks, so they'll need to make damn sure that they can prove without any shadow of a doubt that Trump and/or his spawn are guilty as sin of the highest crimes.

There has never been a case like this in American history. I just don't see any politician or prosecutor risking their career over a case that could ruin them.

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