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MelissaB

(16,420 posts) Sun Mar 24, 2019, 05:31 PM Mar 2019

Barr focuses narrowly on "the Russian government."

It's important to remember Barr was very specific in his wording. He said/wrote "Russian Government" vs "Russian representatives, or nationals, or companies.

Barr's letter seems deliberately written to avoid THIS QUESTION. Barr focuses narrowly on "the Russian government." Wikileaks was not the Russian government, but coordinating with Wikileaks is plausibly soliciting/conspiring. Barr seems to be deliberately obscuring. Unclear.

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May turn out to be very significant that AGBarr's letter refers to Russian "government," but not to Vladimir's gang of oligarchs? Legally the oligarchs are not the Kremlin, but they are Putin's useful tools for undermining democracy.

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I think Barr did exactly what he was put in office to do.

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Barr focuses narrowly on "the Russian government." (Original Post) MelissaB Mar 2019 OP

Yep. Barr's a commie, just like Trump... RHMerriman Mar 2019 #1

He carefully chose what to mention and in what context. BigmanPigman Mar 2019 #2

Well jesus I could have written that report, and I'm not a lawyer. Volaris Mar 2019 #3

This is why we needed an independent investigation from the start. BigmanPigman Mar 2019 #4

What you're looking for is gonna have to come from the Dem judicary and intelligence committees. Volaris Mar 2019 #5

RHMerriman

(1,376 posts)

1. Yep. Barr's a commie, just like Trump...

Reply to MelissaB (Original post)

Sun Mar 24, 2019, 05:35 PM

Mar 2019

Or he's a useful idiot. One or the other.

BigmanPigman

(51,565 posts)

2. He carefully chose what to mention and in what context.

Reply to MelissaB (Original post)

Sun Mar 24, 2019, 05:42 PM

Mar 2019

This isn't even a Cliffs Notes summary of the report. It is a partial subjective assessment based of a specific goal of blocking it from hurting the fucking moron.

Volaris

(10,266 posts)

3. Well jesus I could have written that report, and I'm not a lawyer.

Reply to BigmanPigman (Reply #2)

Sun Mar 24, 2019, 06:19 PM

Mar 2019

Does that mean I'm qualified to be AG, cause if so, I need somebody to promote me lol!

Barr can not now be considered to be independent of the administration, as an AG SHOULD BE.

We're back to the argument 'if the president does it, it's not illegal, only now the ATTYGEN seems to believe this as well .

I want the full report made public. This is a democracy; I'll read it and make my own damned decision.

BigmanPigman

(51,565 posts)

4. This is why we needed an independent investigation from the start.

Reply to Volaris (Reply #3)

Sun Mar 24, 2019, 06:26 PM

Mar 2019

I went to protests calling for it. Mueller was the best we could get from the GOP House and Senate at the time. An independent investigation, like we had in 9/11, would have been impossible to derail by either party, would be fully funded, would be relatively quick and it would be transparent and released to the public.

I wonder if we can still do that?

Volaris

(10,266 posts)

5. What you're looking for is gonna have to come from the Dem judicary and intelligence committees.

Reply to BigmanPigman (Reply #4)

Sun Mar 24, 2019, 06:41 PM

Mar 2019

Mueller's report (and testimony?) make for a good starting point. The evidence HE FOUND IS IN THERE, even if it was decided by others that it wasn't enough to win a conviction.

Remember, high crimes and misdemeanors means 'what the House WANTS it to mean'. So all it really takes is the balls to try.

That's a political gamble, not a prosecutorial one. Mueller knows the difference. So does Pelosi. So does Barr, and I'm thinking HE'S thinking 'they don't have the moxy for it.'

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