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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOK, I have to get this off my chest.....
The Mueller Report is the tombstone of America as a democracy. It proves money and the power it brings is the end of everything the Revolutionary War was about. We have traded one tyrant for another and the brief experiment in Democracy has lost. Money and those who have it are the new kings and we settle for crumbs they throw us. I am completely disgusted with the way our country has turned out. We could have been so much more.
Sorry, but I had to say it.
uponit7771
(90,353 posts)rzemanfl
(29,567 posts)csziggy
(34,137 posts)So how can you make your claim?
I do not trust one word of the Barr letter - I think it spins the conclusions of the Mueller Report intentionally. Before he was appointed AG Barr said he didn't think that the president could be charged with obstruction of justice, in effect that if the president did it it was legal (**channeling Richard Nixon in that comment).
No matter what Mueller concluded or what his report said, Barr was going to spin it in favor of Trump. THAT is where we are now.
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The following is an excerpt from an interview with former President Nixon conducted by David Frost. It aired on television on May 19, 1977.
<SNIP>
Nixon: Well, when the president does it that means that it is not illegal.
http://landmarkcases.org/en/Page/722/Nixons_Views_on_Presidential_Power_Excerpts_from_a_1977_Interview_with_David_Frost
el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)Not time to throw it in just yet. We've hard dark days before and we have more ahead of us, but I hope that we have good days as well. Like when President (democratic candidate to be filled in later) takes the White House in 2020.
Bryant
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)The American form of government was always an experiment, and often was described exactly that way. Despite some success of that experiment, I'm afraid it has probably failed. It is hard not to notice that since our experiment started, virtually no other country has followed our example. Most democratic countries use a parliamentary system. You don't find a lot of countries operating anything like our "Union of States" concept. The "United Kingdom" has slowly disassembled over the centuries. The American Civil War was probably the first evidence that the experiment wasn't working. I'm afraid Citizens United was the second. In 2040 or so, 70% of the population is going to potentially live in just 15 states. I don't think a country can long last that way. And our constitution makes it almost impossible to "fix". I strongly suspect we have a collapse coming that will look a bit like the breakup of the USSR. Some of those Red States are going to be in for a rude awakening when they no longer have the federal gravy train to rely upon. They're going to hate being irrelevant even more.
shraby
(21,946 posts)36 oz. choc. chips - make half of it peanut butter chips if you like it better.
2 cans condensed sweetened canned milk
heat slowly and stir until chips are all melted
take off heat, add walnuts
pour into pan (I line pan with foil)
Eat as fast as you can before it's gone.