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by Trump and his minions can that be used against him or does 'double jeopardy' kick in?
SoCalNative
(4,613 posts)only applies if someone has previoulsy been charged with but not convicted of a crime.
Moostache
(9,895 posts)hlthe2b
(102,225 posts)so, no.
rzemanfl
(29,556 posts)other countries intercepted conclusive evidence.
Pantagruel
(2,580 posts)only applies to being tried, Mueller wasn't a trial, merely an investigation.But finding hard evidence of a conspiracy with Russia ain't gonna be easy. Unless Russia suddenly decides it's in their interest to reveal their compromat on Trump.
global1
(25,241 posts)I wanted to ask the question - if only to make sure that Trump can't wiggle out of this if in case conclusive evidence is found about collusion by him and his minions.
I think that there is a good chance that 'collusion' can be pinned on these people. Somebody will make a mistake or something will be found that points to collusion.
Who knows maybe if Manafort is not pardoned by Trump - Manafort might reconsider and talk. Think about it. Of the three that were in that infamous Trump Tower meeting - Manafort is the only one that is in jail. Jr & Jared are still loose. Trump himself - is claiming he's been exonerated. I would be a very pissed off Manafort - if I knew I was the only one that is sitting in jail.
I just don't want to lose hope that all the contacts between Trump, his people and the Russians is just attributed to coincidence.
better
(884 posts)is to convince us that the investigation was allowed to complete its natural course when in fact it has not, so that they can more easily get away with the cover-up. I'm particularly struck by the sequence of statements, and very careful wording in the Barr Spin.
There are three particular statements, in order, that raise many questions.
1. During the course of his investigation, the Special Counsel also referred several matters to other offices for further action.
2. The report does not recommend any further indictments.
3. Special Counsel did not obtain any sealed indictments that have yet to be made public.
First, the several matters referred to other offices for further action are not identified.
Second, the report not recommending any further indictments does not equal those other offices not doing so.
And third, even if the aforementioned other offices have obtained sealed indictments, it would remain true that SC did not obtain any sealed indictments that have yet to be made public, though obviously that would be completely irrelevant, and highly misleading.
To me, this screams of an attempt to cover up active obstruction, counting on negligent comprehension of the facts to convince the public to adopt the "he's been investigated and found innocent" narrative they're desperately trying to spin.
TheBlackAdder
(28,183 posts)Sure, Mueller didn't indict Trump or his evil spawn.
If he did, it would just be for a few charges, which might interfere with other criminal cases.
By Mueller not charging them, it opens up State, Congressional and wider Federal charging later on.