What is wrong with just saying, "I'm an FDR Democrat"

[rusty quoin]

I’m watching, “Trumbo” again. He was a communist, but when questioned, why didn’t he say that. Complete honesty is not something a congress like that deserved. To say one is an FDR Democrat leaves it up to the questioner to figure out if FDR was a communist.

Leave aside that congressman asking “yes or no, are you a capitalist or a socialist,” one can say I’m an FDR Democrat even today, and leave it up to them to figure it out.

Myself, I’m an FDR Democrat. I know you all know what that means, but the right wing doesn’t.

[zaj]

1. No modern voter knows what that means

[pnwmom]

2. Like they know what "socialist' means? nt

[rusty quoin]

3. Good. I can say it then without research. The one word Democrat does place me though.

[NanceGreggs]

4. What's wrong with just saying ...

... "I'm a Democrat"?

[rusty quoin]

5. Nothing except there's corporate vs worker for a very long time.

I’m pro worker.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

7. Abso-fuckin-lutely!! I'm with workers over corporations 100%.

They can keep their dirty PAC money too... that is, unless they fork it over in higher taxes.


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Join the revolution!!!

[Hortensis]

14. Hear, here, Nance. I'm a Democrat.

And, yes, I'm extremely proud of what Democrats accomplished during FDR's tenure and since. It's a shame that a giant national emergency had to hit the middle classes before voters gave us the power to do what we needed to, but they did and we did.

I'm proud of the ACA the Republicans now intend to use the courts to strike down in its entirety.

Shouldn't need to be said, here.

[Squinch]

28. At this of all times, when muddied waters could destroy America, THIS.

I am a Democrat! I don't need to know any more than that you are too.

[Runningdawg]

33. 100%

[mcar]

39. Right?

I'm a Democrat. I don't need any other labels, thank you.

[MrsCoffee]

40. Thank you.

[stuffmatters]

6. FDR Democrat aka Member of"The Democratic Wing of the Democtatic Party."(per Howard Dean)

Has always worked for me.

[True Blue American]

11. Same here

From one who remembers listening to FDR. I may have been a child but remember him well.

[delisen]

8. FDR hdd to rely on Racist Southern Democrats

to pass the massive New Deal programs reforms.

We can no longer prioritize the economic initiatives of the New Deal programs over Human Rights.

We must be foremost be Human Rights Democrats to be able to change the the misery of Today and Tomorrow

[True Blue American]

10. Human Rights

Are what FDR stood for!

Take your insults some where else!

[delisen]

13. The record is there whether one likes it or not

Facts are facts. They are not insults.

You may not like the facts but I have the right to express the facts or even my opinions and I would be doing a disservice to the the first amendment to the Constitution if I allow myself to be intimidated into silence.

I defend your right to express yourself also.

https://books.wwnorton.com/books/detail.aspx?ID=4294977508 can be an interesting read

The New Deal needed and depended upon the votes of the Jim Crow Southern Democrats who blocked the human rights of citizens

[yardwork]

15. Are you aware that FDR put Japanese Americans in internment camps?

[True Blue American]

16. Not only aware

But know he did it because the people in California were scared, demanded it.

While we are on the subject i know the woman who finally got a $20,000 settlement from them. She was married to a former Paratrooper. I know him,too!

Next question?

Here is mine. Do you remember how horrible WW 2 was? TheJ Japanese attacked us at Pearl Harbor!

Many of my older friends died fighting them!

[TwilightZone]

22. Japanese-Americans didn't attack Pearl Harbor.

They were Americans, not Japanese. Conflating the two is misguided, at best.

[True Blue American]

24. You did not bother

To read my post, did you? The atmosphere in this Country was one of abject fear of the Japanese after they attaxked us.

I was here, I know what the armosphere was! You do not! Learn a little bit while there are still survivers who were. They know what the Japanese did in their camps to our Soldiers!

There are always 2 sides to a story if you try!

[Kaleva]

27. How old were you in 1941/1942?

"I was here, I know what the armosphere was! "

You'd have to be in your early 100's now in order to have a first hand adult perspective of what the atmosphere was like back then.

[Fla Dem]

29. Well I guess they could be in their mid-late 90's.

I would think a person beginning at age 18 would have a relatively good understanding of the political dynamics and current events of the early 1940's. Having said that, a person born in 1923 would have been 18 years old in 1941 and 96 today.

[Kaleva]

36. I don't think the OP is 96.

[yardwork]

34. This is disgusting bigotry against American citizens.

[mcar]

41. What does Japanese atrocities toward US soldiers have to do with Japanese-Americans being imprisoned

Do you believe we now should imprison Muslim-Americans because some Americans are afraid of them? Why weren't German-Americans imprisoned during WWII?

[Celerity]

26. wth

But know he did it because the people in California were scared, demanded it.

You cannot be serious to offer that pure rot up as a valid justification. The evil done throughout history using shit like that as an excuse is incalculable.

Please tell me you are having a laugh.

[Dr Hobbitstein]

30. No he didn't.

Someone standing for human rights doesn't issue an EO authorizing locking American citizens in internment camps.

Whitewashing all the bad FDR did just because he did some good is wrong.

[JustAnotherGen]

18. I'm a Democrat first

And an LBJ Democrat next. Doesn't get better or more noble than this


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[DBoon]

37. I posted before I saw this

yes indeed

When I am old enough to qualify for medicare, I will thank LBJ

[True Blue American]

9. Make me another Democrat

We owe him everything.

[betsuni]

12. FDR Democrat means having majorities in both Senate and the House for many years.

By 1937-38 Democrats had an 80% majority in both chambers. The last time Democrats had the presidency and majority (barely) in both chambers was for four months and ten days.

[doompatrol39]

31. Well, as we've seen the past 2 years that's no longer true.

Presidents can do quite a bit with much slimmer majorities, as Trump and Republicans have shown us.

The good news is that we no longer have to tell people that we can't do things when we are in charge because the President doesn't have that power. They've seen first hand that this is not true. A lot can be done with executive orders, emergency declarations, and as we've seen with the GOP tax cut, reconciliation moves no longer need to be deficit neutral. So that's good news for us Democrats to hear that we no longer need those massive majorities to get things done.

[True Blue American]

17. And FDR

Had to fight Republicans all the way! He welcomed their hate!

And, that was the last war we won!

[no_hypocrisy]

19. Taped to my desk as I look up from my screen is an 8-1/2 x 11 portrait of FDR

and Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. I take my "marching orders" from them.

(There's no room for Henry Wallace and/or Adlai Stevenson.)

[True Blue American]

25. Thank you.

[LexVegas]

20. I am of Asian descent. So I'm not an "FDR Democrat".

[brooklynite]

21. Most voters have no clue what an "FDR Democrat" means today

[Vinca]

23. FDR was not perfect (think internment camps).

And, as someone up the line pointed out, a whole lot of people wouldn't know what you're talking about. Eyes aren't glued to phones reading history. But I agree, we need a name that will catch on other than Democratic Socialist. When the uninformed hear that they have USSR flashbacks.

[manor321]

32. That is a great answer

And avoids the "socialist" term that has such huge negative baggage with the people who actually show up and vote.

[DBoon]

35. I'm an LBJ Democrat

he supported civil rights because it was the morally correct position, even though he knew it would ruin his part among white southerners for a generation (he was actually wildly optimistic on this one)

We need a party committed to principals.

[MineralMan]

38. Very, very few people alive today remember FDR as President.

Saying "I'm an FDR Democrat" is a perilous statement. It can mean things the speaker does not intend to mean. It's a statement that should be used very, very sparingly, because many people know history and will ask the speaker very pointed questions that will cause embarrassment.

A better expression would be, "I am a New Deal Democrat." That limits the statement to economic and social issues and separates it from the man's entire record.

[rusty quoin]

42. Actually I will use that term now after reading all the posts. Thanks.

[UTUSN]

43. I'll say, am an FDR Democrat as was LBJ so LBJ Dem, too.